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06:47 < finkfox> hi. I figured the slowness of my "pkg_add", it was the wifi connection. apparently I have a iwm 8265 which has throughput issues for large files, while browsing the net works fine.
06:47 < finkfox> can you recommend a better performing wifi card on openbsd?
06:49 < finkfox> how about iwx based cards such as ax200?
06:52 < finkfox> or something wrong with my wifi. need to investigate further first.
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07:09 < ssm_> finkfox: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210 on iwx(4) works very well. 802.11ax is not supported at the moment, but 802.11ac is still very widely supported. qwx(4), acx(4) and bwfm(4) also support modern wireless standards, though I've never had a good experience with broadcom (bwfm) on any *bsd
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08:42 < finkfox> ssm_: would you say iwx works better than iwm? how well is ac mode supported? I can use iwm with ac but n is still more reliable and has better range it seems.
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11:00 < sibiria> finkfox: range is solely about transceiver output and wavelength. on one and the same channel and signal strength you should have a better experience on 802.11ac, because it introduced a couple of features for better managing "noise" from other wifi infra in the vicinity
11:01 < sibiria> 802.11ac and ax in particular copes better in a dense signal environment than 11n and 11g
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15:07 < zmoment> Hi, I'd like to upgrade from 7.6 to 7.7 amd64, but /usr doesn't have the 1.1GB recommended.  Upon checking, /usr/share/relink/kernel occupies 757MB.   
15:08 < zmoment> Is it safe to start upgrade? Or can I rm the contents of that directory?
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15:24 < vortexx> zmoment: you need 2Gb for /usr if not 3Gb (to future proof).
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15:32 < jmcunx> zmoment: FWIW, I have a 3G /usr with 1.4G free, so 2G may be tight
15:38 < zmoment> This is a eMMC of 4GB total, so cannot have that much.
15:39 < zmoment> \/usr/local is in a separate mount, though.
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15:43 < thrig> / slash space slash should allow for leading slash comments
15:44 < jmcunx> same for me, I have X under /usr for 405 M
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15:56 < lts> I'm really surprised that the official upgrade instructions haven't been updated and still say 1.1GB
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15:57 < A1ice> wow, amd64, sounds like new machine
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16:08 < sibiria> jmcunx: are you sure? 7.7/amd64 with everything and x under /usr, and kernel object files in /usr/share/relink, is 1.9 to 2g
16:10 < jmcunx> sibiria: checking again, That is on an old i386 system, on my amd64 I have lots of space
16:13 < zmoment> I moved /usr/share/relink to /home and created a symlink but not enough.  Maybe have to change OS to some router/firewall specific.
16:13 < jmcunx> on the i386 /usr has 3G, used 1.4G with separate /usr/local.  /usr has these dirs https://termbin.com/qmj7
16:14 < jmcunx> the drive is small so I combined some other partitions under it
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16:14 < sibiria> https://paste.debian.net/plain/1376372
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16:31 < jmcunx> sibiria: https://termbin.com/qbhk comparison
16:32 < jmcunx> that system has been upgraded since the 6.x days, I meant to re-install for 7.7 but forgot
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16:35 < sibiria> quite the diff
16:35 < sibiria> same with arm64. it's quite leaner than amd64
16:35 < sibiria> a couple of hundred mb
16:38 < jmcunx> there could be old cruft left over too, it is a B/U system for my main amd64
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16:44 < FenderQ> zmoment: I invested the effort to backup data in order to do a fresh install of 7.7 with automatic disk allocation this release, it was a bit of work yet now I know I don't have to worry about space issues
16:46 < sibiria> are you sure? because the auto layout has historically been outdated and inadequate
16:46 < FenderQ> sibiria: if I encounter a problem with it I will let you know
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19:13 < ssm_> finkfox: I've never had reliability issues on ac compared to n on iwx(4). bwfm(4) on the other hand was just unreliable all the time and I don't think it had anything to do with the media mode
19:14 < ssm_> of course your experience may differ depending on your hardware
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19:15 < ssm_> intel AX210 was what I was recommended by another user and it works quite well. I sometimes have a very rare firmware error (once every several months maybe) which requires me to down and up the interface
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21:35 < itrsea> How do I start to import Node.js npm apps?
21:35 < itrsea> https://github.com/sonnyp/Eloquent.git
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22:11 < itrsea> Eloquent's dependenties on GTK prevent a trival port.
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22:18 < finkfox> ssm_: ok thanks
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22:25 < emmanuelux> FenderQ, i managed to group all partitions into one when passing to 7.7 (less secure?) cause insufficient space, with backup partitions (dump -0au -f /mnt/nfs/openbsd/dump-a.img /, dump -0au -f /mnt/nfs/openbsd/dump-k.img /home, etc.., could use dd in place of dump) and it was a lot of effort too even with https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html
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