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02:14 < vortexx> flaxarn: additonaly I use a separate wg interface for roadwarrior type users vs infrastructure links, if it helps
02:14 < vortexx> that way you don't have to overshare with wgaip
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02:44 < vortexx> (and if you're being extracomplicated with routed domains...)
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09:17 < anelli> goodmorning. whenever i restart this openbsd VM i get the usual output like `starting package daemons:', `starting local daemons:', etc. then it halts after the date line `Sun Jun  1 09:02:12 UTC 2025' and doesn't provide a login prompt and becomes unresponsive to keypresses including enter. this is under vmctl console $vmnumber. when i ssh into it i can run commands without issues. i'm on OpenBSD 7.7-current (GENERIC) #680 Build date: 1748755823 - Sun Jun  
09:20 < anelli> i'm thinking it might be an issue with the host but i'm not sure
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09:24 < quinq> anelli, what's the last displayed daemon?
09:25 < quinq> Ah, it's on current ok
09:25 < anelli> i'm restarting the vm to get it again. one minute
09:26 < anelli> also my host is openbsd.amsterdam if that changes anything. they updated systems recently so i think i might have to email them
09:26 < surrounder> quite recently indeed
09:26 < IcePic> does it have a non-standard setting for where to run consoles?
09:27 < anelli> nah `vmctl console vmXX' for me
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09:27 < IcePic> vps's usually get to pretend its a serial console, so perhaps /etc/ttys or something needs to know about the serial console instead of the "glass" console x86s normally expect
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09:28 < quinq> They're updating right now for me ^^
09:28 < anelli> it's a regular ssh session into one of the vps' servers' host where i do vmctl console thing so idk if there's anything special under the hood
09:28 < anelli> quinq: oh lemme know if you face the same issue
09:29 < quinq> Ah no, well, it finished ~30min ago
09:29 < quinq> anelli, I only connect through ssh
09:29 < anelli> quinq: me too. but sometimes i mess things up and need to use the console to fix it so it's needed
09:29 < anelli> IcePic: alright i'll check this one
09:29 < anelli> ooooh wait
09:30 < quinq> ok, let-me try to connect, but I will not reboot it ^^
09:30 < anelli> i thiiink i had a diff in /etc/tty in the snapshot update before this happened
09:30 < anelli> quinq: hehe fair :b
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09:33 < anelli> IcePic: did this change break it? http://okturing.com/src/25406/body
09:33 < quinq> anelli, https://clbin.com/ViaDu
09:33 < quinq> werks here :/
09:34 < anelli> quinq: oh damn. thx for testing tho :)
09:34 < anelli> wait. did this snapshot upgrade turn off tty0?
09:34 < quinq> Worth a look :)
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09:37 < anelli> quinq: should i send the whole console boot log (for the daemon thing you asked about)
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09:37 < anelli> > Worth a look :)
09:37 < anelli> alrighty
09:37 < quinq> anelli, I was just thinking that maybe one of the daemons blocks further progress
09:38 < quinq> But maybe if rc.d actually finishes if you get a timestamp afterwards, that's not the good direction
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09:39 < anelli> quinq: just didn't wanna post too much details about the system xD the lines right after 'boot>' sound not-so-pastebin material. alright here http://okturing.com/src/25408/body
09:40 < quinq> Yeah ok, wrong idea
09:41 < anelli> it's definitely this diff. lemme see
09:46 < anelli> lol that was it
09:47 < quinq> What diff?
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09:48 < quinq> Ohhh, I had missed that message
09:48 < anelli> quinq: here http://okturing.com/src/25406/body 
09:48 < quinq> Yeah definitely :D
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09:48 < anelli> where do these come from anyways? are they stored in the snapshot? i'd like to report it so it doesn't cause others trouble too
09:51 < anelli> so i just `/var/backups/etc_ttys.backup   /var/backups/etc_ttys.current' to fix it back
09:51 < anelli> no sorry i mean `/var/backups/etc_ttys.backup /etc/ttys'
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15:46 < nerdcore> robertkeizer and oldlaptop thanks for the input; I see and recognize your points.
15:46 < nerdcore> oldlaptop: regarding China, any thoughts on RockChip SoCs? They purport to be open hardware, though I don't know if anyone has externally audited that claim
15:48 < oldlaptop> Not particularly, no. I would worry a whole lot more about finished devices with laughably insecure cloud management features (the context I'm talking about) than reasonably widely-used SoCs.
15:49 < oldlaptop> (Or, say, ESP-based things with their own TCP/IP stacks and application-level stuff)
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15:50 < nerdcore> ty for the input
15:51 < izder456> looks like x11/xfe was updated. hopefully it works well on amd64.
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18:00 < anthk_> hi quinq 
18:05 < quinq> Hi anthk_ :)
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