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01:53 < vortexx> I do hope passstab sets up an irc client on that 64Gb boot drive so we can ask him questions all night and he gets to read them
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01:55 < vortexx> I really want to know if the laptop had an original install (presumably upgraded with each release) which predates the move to FFS2 by default in the installer
01:55 < vortexx> because then scanffs works
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01:56 < vortexx> plenty of people are still on FFS
01:56 < vortexx> dumpfs /dev/rsd0a | head -1
01:56 < vortexx> magic   11954 (FFS1)    time    Fri Jun  6 03:56:00 2025
01:57 < vortexx> that's on my APU6 which uses the SSD from my APU2B
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02:10 < mischief> it probably would not be too difficult to extend it to ffs2, but i haven't looked yet
02:10 < mischief> i was lazy and just wrote some lua :)
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02:36 < vortexx> is there any code in base using lua? I'm not super aware
02:36 < vortexx> glad you managed to knock something together
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02:42 < mischief> not in openbsd, but i think in netbsd ;)
02:43 < vortexx> heh
02:43 < mischief> shell is ass for binary io, i dont know anything about perl, and i was too lazy to write c
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02:44 < mischief> its not even that long, most of it is just declaring the superblock structure https://gist.github.com/mischief/52f948063fb848125dc5119079a6d33d
02:44 < pardis> there can't be Lua code in base if there isn't a Lua interpreter in base
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02:52 < mischief> pardis: well, i had to check :-P
02:52 < mischief> mischief@beast:~/src/openbsd $ find . -name '*.lua'
02:52 < mischief> ./regress/usr.sbin/httpd/patterns/patterns-tester.lua
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06:36 < anelli> > anelli: check/remove /root/.forward
06:37 < anelli> sonya: it has my username. it always forwards root's emails to me but it used to have the `From:' field contain root's username not me
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07:10 < anelli> sonya: oh my bad, .forward changing the From is correct behavior. i tried it on a different system with default mail settings and it does that too. i guess cron has it's own separate parameters. i don't a good usecase for sending mail to other users with a root `From' and it can be done easily with -r the few times i do that it won't be cumbersome. thx for the headsup :)
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07:15 < anelli> s/i don't/i don't have/
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07:35 < andrath> Interesting news about Xorg, seems a high profile dev forked it and worked in the 3000+ open merge requests that got deleted. I hope Xenocara will pick those up.
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07:42 < l33t-31337-h4x0r> hi all
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08:04 < rIMpossible> G'morning
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08:08 < rIMpossible> So I installed OpenBSD 7.7 twice over tftp. First time it went smooth and everything woriked fine. Second time I installed with encryption. Could not install bootblock (installboot it wrote, but booted anyway), firstrun did not start after reboot. Several errormessages while first boot.
08:09 < rIMpossible> Are there preliminaries for installing with drive encryption?
08:09 < rIMpossible> e.g. /dev/MAKEDEV ?
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08:17 < FenderQ> rIMpossible: I normally would prep the filesystem using the shell prior to install https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#softraidFDE
08:19 < FenderQ> I have yet to try the automagic in install.md yet https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/distrib/amd64/common/install.md
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08:22 < FenderQ> I normally do a MAKEDEV sd{0,1,2,3}
08:23 < rIMpossible> FenderQ: this is what I do normally, and it is proven to work.
08:25 < rIMpossible> Should I try to MAKEDEV first and then let the installer do the encryption process? Or better not mixing up the two methods and doing it pretty oldschool?
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08:31 < FenderQ> thus far I continue to do the full softraid setup, and then install
08:31 < FenderQ> no issues yet for me
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08:32 < rIMpossible> FenderQ: ok, so I'll better do it the oldschool way, as always. Thank you
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13:44 < vortexx> rIMpossible: the installer should handle everything normally. What were the errors at first boot that you got?
13:45 < vortexx> (including getting the sdX entries into /dev)
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14:17 < rIMpossible> vortexx: saw your message too late. Currently dd'ing and manually preparing the encrypted container.
14:18 < rIMpossible> vortexx: If I remember, it was sth. with chmod. I assume it was trying to complete tasks in rc.firstrun. 
14:20 < rIMpossible> The kernel was also not relinked, the sp kernel was used instead of mp kernel (what it did without choosing for encryption), fw_update and syspatch -l was not run .....
14:21 < rIMpossible> could be some edge case due to booting from tftp ...
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14:45 < vortexx> installing from tftp should't make any difference, once the bsd.rd is downloaded from the server it takes over and nothing tftp related happens after that
14:46 < vortexx> sounds like corrupted sets to me if you're getting chmod and fw_update and syspatch errors
14:46 < vortexx> or perhaps simply corrupted underlying drive?
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14:48 < IcePic> agree with vortexx, the manner of how you get bsd.rd into memory doesn't matter
14:48 < oldlaptop> as long as bsd.rd itself gets into memory correctly, I guess?
14:49 < oldlaptop> I'd expect something to go wrong a lot earlier if that's a problem.
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15:09 < rIMpossible> oldlaptop: vortexx: I got them during the install process from a mirror (ftp.hostserver.de). The sets should be fine, as they are integrity checked
15:11 < oldlaptop> Then my mind also runs to the hardware. (Broken disk? Broken power supply - that wondrous root of all kinds of madness?)
15:11 < rIMpossible> Without choosing for encryption, everything is fine. I have to install another machine the next few days. I will do exactly the same thing and report the errors back here
15:11 < rIMpossible> oldlaptop: malheureusement, non
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20:03 < avemestr> andrath: Interesting XOrg development indeed... would not be the first time something great results from a falling out.
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20:31 < gnucode> I'm fairly excited for that too!
20:31 < gnucode> the XOrg development... Xlibre  Xserver   Is that what they're calling it?
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20:40 < Bradipo> Xcalibre?
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21:13 < sonya> https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver
21:15 < Bradipo> I think Xcalibre would be a decent name.
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21:16 < Bradipo> What's all the scuttlebutt though?  I haven't heard anything about it.
21:20 < sonya> Enrico Weigelt - https://github.com/metux - is behind the scene.. all the best and good luck, imho..
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21:30 < rIMpossible> vortexx: have chosen mbr twice during install, instead of gpt - WORKS. Nothing on OpenBSD developers! The bug was in front of the screen :)
21:33 < FenderQ> :)
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21:37 < systemdsucks> ok, make under way
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21:46 < vortexx> rIMpossible: yeah GPT is kinda the way you have to go in 2025
21:47 < vortexx> or are you installing on pre 2010 hw?
21:47 < vortexx> (which would merit mentionning)
21:48 < vortexx> Bradipo: except there's a Calibre project already and that'd be confusing
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21:48 < Bradipo> Perhaps.
21:48 < Bradipo> eXcalibre then. :-)
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21:49 < Bradipo> But yeah, just a humorous thought.
21:50 < Bradipo> The actual sword is Excalibur, so it's kind of twisting the letters a bit.
21:50 < Bradipo> I suppose Xcalibur might work and it's a subtle play on the phonemes.
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22:19 < vortexx> Bradipo: Calibre is a french word which means size of bullets, which is also used in English
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22:20 < Bradipo> Yes, I'm aware of the term calibre.  It's also used in automotive work.
22:21 < Bradipo> Not to be confused with caliper.
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