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00:38 < vortexx> it's under 3 hours on my Xeon E2278 (2019 model)
00:38 < vortexx> in a VM
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06:39 < ssm_> Is there any openbsd-compatible hardware that can work as a phone replacement for someone who wants to live entirely without android/iOS/linux? I currently have a pinephone that runs pmOS, and it's horrendously buggy, even though tier-1 supported device. I've read work from a kernel dev on porting the OG pinephone, though it hasn't really gone anywhere as far as I can tell. the old palm port was 
06:39 < ssm_> discontinued after 5.3, and while it's not a phone in the traditional sense it has the form factor. I'm fine putting something together like an rpi with a small chassis, and using a soft/ip phone service like jmp.chat with a port like net/dino for cellular (sim cards seem bad for security so I want to avoid that anyways). I guess ultimately I'm just looking for something with the form factor of a phone that 
06:39 < ssm_> isn't necessarily a phone that uses openbsd.
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06:41 < mischief> how much work do you want to do
06:41 < ssm_> apologies for typos, too much caffeine + brain fog + horrible sleep schedule + lithium tends to do that
06:42 < ssm_> mischief: anything up to and including basic soldering is my skillset
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06:45 < mischief> if you dont mind the not-actually phone form factor something like a gpd pocket might work
06:47 < ssm_> looking at screenshots, https://gpdstore.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/GPD-Pocket-4-announced.jpg.webp, it can fold into a phone
06:47 < ssm_> this is model 4 though, as image says
06:47 < mischief> with some work the clockworkpi uconsole might boot openbsd, since its just an rpi cm, but i haven't attempted it on mine yet.. likely needs work to make the display run
06:48 < ssm_> hmm.... think x220 tablet
06:49 < ssm_> *checks price* $960.95-$1860.95 is a {bit,lot} out of my range. I'll look at the older models and used
06:49 < ssm_> I was hoping more for $100-$300 range lol
06:49 < ssm_> maybe not a thing in this economy
06:50 < mischief> 20 years of market forces behind shitty arm chipsets and android definitely work against you to run anything nonstandard
06:54 < mischief> other ostensibly not-quote-smartphone things are the punkt mp02 and the unphone
06:54 < mischief> (neither run openbsd)
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07:39 < ssm_> mischief: comments on any of these? https://magazine.raspberrypi.com/articles/the-best-raspberry-pi-laptop-kits
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07:41 < ssm_> the adafruit mini looks fun, but that display is microscopic...
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08:08 < mischief> ssm_: meh, probably nothing worth using
08:08 < mischief> the problem with arm in any case is going to be making openbsd work with whatever peripherals are attached
08:08 < mischief> which has to be manually described via devicetree
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08:47 < jtt> mischief: my uconsole finally shipped last week. I have to pay 50€ for customs though :/
08:48 < jtt> how's your experience with it so far?
08:48 < jtt> what OS are you running on it?
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09:26 < mischief> jtt: you will probably have to grab the debian image from a user named ak-rex on the forums
09:28 < mischief> https://forum.clockworkpi.com/t/bookworm-6-12-y-for-the-uconsole-and-devterm/15847
09:28 < mischief> its just a modification of raspbian
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14:25 < rIMpossible> you can add Quectel EM12-G to the list of umb(4) supported devices
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14:43 < mischief> is that the royal you?
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15:38 < jtt> mischief: thanks! alpine hasn't been ported yet has it?
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15:44 < sibiria> alpine runs on arm since long
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15:47 < sibiria> but there are imo better "barebones-y" linuces for Arm
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16:19 < mischief> jtt: i dont know, i'm not a user so i don't follow it.
16:19 < mischief> probably not hard once you make the kernel work
16:21 < mischief> in my admittedly short and shallow experience with $random hw, most of the time it seems to come down to if it the kernel can work since thats where most of the hw boundary lives
16:22 < mischief> not much piles on stuff in userspace, except maybe gl like that powervr bullshit
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16:23 < mischief> the breadwinner is how well the hardware describes itself to the os, then its easy
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16:23 < mischief> eg pci and usb, a bus you can enumerate and dynamically probe drivers
16:25 < mischief> when the hw cant be enumerated in a standard way you're reduced to relying on the hw mfg to do that for you in the form of devicetree
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16:29 < mischief> i know they are complicated but i dont really understand why uefi or acpi never took off much for arm, since they do address this problem, and is one of the reasons why the pc supports such os portability between hw at all
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21:40 < rIMpossible> /var/unbound/db/ is empty
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21:42 < sonya> rIMpossible: # ftp -S do -o /var/unbound/db/root.hints https://www.internic.net/domain/named.root
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21:43 < rIMpossible> sonya: thank you. Is there a reason, that it is not delivered with 7.7 ?
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21:46 < sonya> rIMpossible: i guess that /var/unbound/db/root.key is autoformatted after root.hints is placed.. and root servers are updated quite often, so, it's just recommended to get the latest description file..
21:46 < sonya> -rw-r--r--  1 _unbound  _unbound   1.2K Jun  8 20:54 /var/unbound/db/root.key
21:47 < rIMpossible> sonya: thank you for the explanation
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21:48 < sonya> rIMpossible: $ stat -x  /var/unbound/db/root.key -->> https://termbin.com/tle7
21:52 < metavoid> rIMpossible: you can run unbound-anchor -a "/var/unbound/db/root.key"
21:53 < sibiria> grab the hints from internic.net, then run unbound-anchor and reload/restart unbound
21:54 < sibiria> e.g. ftp -o root.hints https://www.internic.net/domain/named.root and move it into place with right permissions
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22:00 < rIMpossible> metavoid: thank you
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22:19 < vortexx> context: I'm setting unbound adblock in a VM to test on my network. I need nsd to serve my zonefiles to unbound. Unbound is configured to do DoT, so I'm trying to set up nsd to talk that using my letsencrypt certs. However wether I use cert.pem, fullchain.pem or chain.pem, I'm getthing this error when doing rcctl start nsd: nsd[90246]: error in SSL_CTX use_certificate_chain_file crypto 
22:20 < vortexx> error:02FFF002:system library:func(4095):No such file or directory
22:21 < vortexx> I'm passing tls-service-pem: etc/chain.pem in nsd.conf with chain.pem being in /var/nsd/etc/chain.pem
22:21 < vortexx> syntax which works for with the privkey
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22:39 < vortexx> https://pastebin.com/Ei4ddidn for the full error
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23:46 < luser9> What does the '#0' mean in 'GENERIC.MP#0' and when does it go 'up'?
23:48 < luser9> As I understand it, it is a kernel patch number. But I thought it should say '#3'
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