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00:21 < passstab> OK, I'm sorry I've been so annoying, but I'm pretty sure I just need one more thing.
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00:24 < passstab> how do I decompress my home backup? I've tried moving it to my home directory, and using gunzip -k file, but that just leaves me with another file?
00:26 < passstab> that is, I start with ./homebackup.gz, and finish with homebackup, which is not a directory.
00:26 < systemdsucks> how did you create the backup?
00:26 < systemdsucks> try $ file homebackup
00:27 < passstab> oh, right, it is a dump file.
00:27 < systemdsucks> so restore the thing
00:28 < passstab> right, thank you. That "file" command is the one I was missing.
00:29 < systemdsucks> because you forgot how you created the thing :p
00:29 < passstab> aye
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01:00 < passstab> OK, I've placed the contents of the original home directory in that of a fresh, whole disk, install of 7.7.
01:01 < passstab> I've installed the original WM (BSPWM) as well as all the other important software I could remember.
01:02 < passstab> wait, I found the problem, it is a permissions issue.
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01:10 < passstab> OK! I now have a working, stable, system.
01:16 < passstab> A huge thank you to Bradipo, and everyone else who helped me with this.
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01:16 < passstab> tzaf
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11:59 < ndivi> I'm trying to autostart a program on ttyC0 so that when the system boots it will automatically run, it's an ncurses program so it'll take over the whole console. I'm trying to run my program in /etc/ttys by replacing the agetty call but this just causes ttyC0 to hang indefinitely
11:59 < ndivi> I checked to see if somehow my program got forked to the background with pgrep but my program just isn't running at all
12:01 < ndivi> My /etc/ttys line is as follows `ttyC0 "/usr/local/bin/fissh" wsvt25 on secure`. Running fissh from the console always works, the program doesn't require access to any files and also shouldn't need any special permissions, it just prints.
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12:05 < ndivi> I've also tried creating a user, setting that user's shell to my program and then doing autologon with /etc/ttys with `su -l fish` but this also hangs
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12:17 < IcePic> perhaps the ttys start super early, before /usr* is mounted?
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12:23 < IcePic> then again, perhaps tty programs need to make certain fcntls or ioctls on the "line" to tell the system what they can do and accept in terms of codes or signals
12:23 < IcePic> if you run fissh on an existing terminal, then this was presumably already done
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12:26 < ndivi> The default line execuets /usr/libexec/getty so I'd assume /usr is mounted
12:26 < IcePic> ok, true. Just thought consoles needed to start early, in case boot stops due to broken /usr and you need to fix it 
12:28 < ndivi> I've also tried running it from rc.local this doesn't cause it to hang but it's as though it never runs in the first place. It takes me straight to the getty login prompt
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12:29 < ndivi> Nothing in pgrep. I put touch /root/testfile in the rc.local as a sanity check and it does create the testfile
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12:39 < IcePic> fissh sounds scary.. "This Android app stores your SSH key phrase and sends it to your PC securely via the LAN"
12:43 < ndivi> It's not that, it's my own program I wrote
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12:46 < sonya> i'd suggest $ man getty .. to begin with and all appropriate.. just to find out the way of autologin for user .. and, probably, ttyC1 is a bit better for experiments..
12:46 < sonya> as long as user auto-logged in, do whatever you want..
12:48 < ndivi> I've tried this, unless I missed something. getty doesn't seem to have auto-login as an option.
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12:51 < ndivi> getty calls login which has the -f flag to automatically log a user in, but I can't see a way to get getty to invoke this flag for login
13:07 < sonya> ndivi: last line as 'su -l $user' in /etc/rc.local - need to try/check.. other options - replace getty with smth, capable to do autologin.. may be mgetty - don't know, sorry..
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13:09 < ndivi> In login.conf I can force authorize a login class, but I'd still need a way to set the user to automatically attempt authorization for in getty
13:09 < ndivi> sonya: rc.local was one of the first things I tried. Thanks tho, I'll look into mgetty
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13:18 < pardis> do you actually need it on a tty or do you just want it to run at boot time?
13:18 < pardis> if the latter, just run it under tmux with an @reboot cron job
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13:19 < ndivi> I need it on a tty, it's an ncurses program and I want it to display on the computer on boot
13:19 < ndivi> Somewhat like a kiosk application
13:21 < sonya> ndivi: just tried 'su -l user' as last line in /etc/rc.local - it works, user is autologged (in vmd)..
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13:22 < ndivi> Hm. I just tried read && /usr/local/bin/fissh && read in rc.local as a test. Reboot, I press enter and see "Error opening terminal: unknown." press enter again, then it brings me to getty login prompt
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13:23 < sonya> but /etc/rc.local is executed before local daemons.. need smth to start after..
13:24 < sibiria> sh -c 'sleep 30; do_stuff' & # lol
13:25 < ndivi> As long as it's non-blocked I don't think it matters at what point I run my program
13:26 < ndivi> I tried setting TERM=vt220 in rc.local wondering if that's what was causing that error message to popup but it didn't seem to do anything
13:26 < ndivi> s/blocked/blocking
13:26 < sonya> export TERM=vt100
13:28 < ndivi> That worked!
13:28 < ndivi> Awesome, thanks
13:28 < ndivi> It is blocking tho...
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13:33 < sonya> ndivi: just check which services are not started, start'em before autologin (if needed) and in user's ~/.profile set TERM and your terminal app.. here it works..
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15:19 < antranigv> hey all, is there any documentation out there on how to configure multi-tenant OpenSMTPd? it can use MySQL, PSQL, a text file, anything. Ideally, something that I can attach with later for a WebUI to modify the data (so SQL kind of makes the most sense...)
15:20 < sibiria> the man-page would be the documentation, but it's not entirely an ideal "how-to"
15:20 < sibiria> but ask away here, or in #opensmtpd
15:21 < antranigv> yeah, and don't get me wrong I can set it up by just reading the man page, however I wanted more of a... tested setup :D 
15:21 < antranigv> sibiria thanks!
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22:02 < Bradipo> Is there a command that will take a number and convert it into an ordinal number?
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22:02 < Bradipo> Oh, well, no, not ordinal.  I mean it's English representation.
22:03 < Bradipo> E.g. 0 = zero, 5 = five, etc...
22:03 < Bradipo> Yes, I know I could write one in awk or some other language.
22:04 < thrig> sbcl --noinform --non-interactive --eval '(prog1 (format t "~r" 42) (fresh-line))'
22:04 < Bradipo> Aha, found it.  number(8)
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22:07 < thrig> ~@r for Roman numerals, obviously
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22:46 < vortexx> patch tuesday, according to what I downloaded off a syspatch mirror, but nothing on the errata page... weird
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22:52 < thrig> there were some emails, maybe they forgot to update the ueb
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