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sonya> do we have a turing machine in base? hmm.. 20:07 < Bradipo> Yeah, quite a few actually. :-) 20:16 -!- daugaard [~daugaard@user/daugaard] has joined #openbsd 20:17 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@66.103.232.138] has joined #openbsd 20:18 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 20:20 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@lfbn-lyo-1-763-48.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 20:20 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has joined #openbsd 20:24 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@66.103.232.138] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25 < thrig> sendmail got removed 20:26 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 20:27 < Bradipo> That's because it wasn't turing complete, lol. 20:28 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 20:29 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 20:31 -!- mlw [~mlw@41.73.193.26] has quit [Remote host closed the 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Of course I was joking, but this is interesting. 20:42 -!- zami3l6 [~zami3l@185.157.244.200] has joined #openbsd 20:43 -!- zami3l [~zami3l@185.157.244.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:43 -!- zami3l6 is now known as zami3l 20:44 -!- zami3l [~zami3l@185.157.244.200] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:48 -!- zami3l [~zami3l@185.157.244.200] has joined #openbsd 20:49 -!- fritz_adalis [~fritzadal@pool-173-49-72-244.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openbsd 20:51 -!- grain772 [~grain77@user/grain77] has joined #openbsd 20:51 < mischief> sonya: dc is turing complete 20:52 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:53 -!- cavecanem [~cavecanem@user/cavecanem] has joined #openbsd 20:53 -!- grain77 [~grain77@user/grain77] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:53 -!- grain772 is now known as grain77 20:56 -!- zami3l5 [~zami3l@185.157.244.200] has joined #openbsd 20:58 -!- zami3l [~zami3l@185.157.244.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:58 -!- zami3l5 is now known as zami3l 21:01 -!- gnucode1 [~gnucode@75.149.95.201] has joined #openbsd 21:05 -!- Torro [~Torro@190-2-155-233.hosted-by-worldstream.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 21:09 -!- macabro [~user@181.209.201.57] has joined #openbsd 21:09 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:1100:cc00::1c19] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3] 21:09 -!- macabro [~user@181.209.201.57] has quit [Changing host] 21:09 -!- macabro [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has joined #openbsd 21:12 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:13 -!- Zerock [~0ck@copyfree/pedant/zerock] has quit [Quit: ded] 21:15 -!- cell [cell@cell.freeirc.org] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 21:20 -!- suncatt [~leah@2804:14d:90a5:8ce4::1150] has joined #openbsd 21:20 -!- suncatt [~leah@2804:14d:90a5:8ce4::1150] has quit [Changing host] 21:20 -!- suncatt [~leah@user/suncatt] has joined #openbsd 21:21 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 21:21 -!- Zerock [~0ck@copyfree/pedant/zerock] has joined #openbsd 21:21 -!- Bokamosho [Bokamosho@bokamosho.thunderirc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22 -!- gnucode1 [~gnucode@75.149.95.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:24 -!- cell [cell@cell.freeirc.org] has joined #openbsd 21:24 -!- noone [~six@user/six] has joined #openbsd 21:26 -!- macabro [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3] 21:32 -!- DasBrain [dasbrain@user/meow/DasBrain] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:36 -!- hsw [~hsw@106.104.103.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:40 -!- rconjoe [~rconjoe@user/rconjoe] has joined #openbsd 21:43 -!- artmdl [~art5456@d173-183-34-71.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openbsd 21:45 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 21:45 -!- DasBrain [dasbrain@user/meow/DasBrain] has joined #openbsd 21:48 -!- jupiter126 [~jupiter12@178.254.111.239] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49 -!- adip [~adip@c145-14.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:52 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-171-97-42-103.revip8.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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