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02:05 < jason123onirc> I am trying to install openbsd on my acer core 2 duo laptop and its giving me an error when I boot the installer 
02:05 < jason123onirc> maclloc allocation too large openbsd
02:05 < jason123onirc> and then it halts 
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02:10 < systemdsucks> is that a 64 bit CPU?
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02:11 < jason123onirc> yes its a 64 bit cpu
02:11 < jason123onirc> its a core 2 duo
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03:04 < byteskeptical> jason123onirc: are you sure? it's been a while but I thought they could run in both modes
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03:05 < jason123onirc> yes I am sure its a 64bit cpu
03:05 < jason123onirc> I will try the 32bit image 
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03:08 < byteskeptical> I believe you, just saying to check possible bios settings
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03:13 < jason123onirc> it boots up into the i386 image 
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03:13 < jason123onirc> there must be something with the amd64 image that makes it not boot
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03:16 < jason123onirc> no settings in the bios 
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03:19 < byteskeptical> jason123onirc: perhaps it's just the installer? you can try installing the 64bit version
03:20 < jason123onirc> well how do i install the 64bit version if i can't boot the installer 
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03:21 < oldlaptop> Are you *absolutely certain* that's a "Core 2 Duo", not a "Core Duo"?
03:21 < oldlaptop> (The latter would *not* be amd64.)
03:22 < oldlaptop> (To make it even more wonderfully confusing, the exact same machine might have been sold with either one - if it's socketed, you might be able to *install* either one.)
03:22 < byteskeptical> just change the url for the install of the sets themselves
03:23 < oldlaptop> Doesn't the installation process eventually involve executing binaries from the newly-installed system?
03:24 < jason123onirc> yes I have 64bit linux on it 
03:24 < jason123onirc> right now
03:24 < byteskeptical> like fw_update and such probably but I don't think that will greatly affect anything if they fail
03:25 < oldlaptop> jason123onirc: Is this the 7.7 release? A snapshot? When do you see that error, exactly? (It doesn't sound like early boot.)
03:25 < jason123onirc> yes its the 7.7 release 
03:26 < jason123onirc> the error is right before it gives the message that it halted 
03:26 < byteskeptical> during relink?
03:26 < oldlaptop> You said that much. I"m more interested in what happens *before* that.
03:29 < jason123onirc> let me have a look but it goes really fast 
03:35 < jason123onirc> https://x0.at/0kDR.jpg
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03:41 < oldlaptop> That seems like likely bug report material to me.
03:42 < oldlaptop> (It's certainly correct that 292GB (!) is much, much too large.)
03:43 < oldlaptop> Probably significant that it's attaching acpi stuff at the time.
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03:47 < systemdsucks> jason123onirc: try a snapshot or 7.6
03:47 < systemdsucks> maybe one of those boots
03:50 < jason123onirc> let me try the snapshot
03:54 < jason123onirc> I tried 7.6 from netboot.xyz and it did not boot
03:57 < jason123onirc> systemdsucks, same issue with snapshot
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04:14 < systemdsucks> jason123onirc: you might be out of luck on this one
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04:23 < jason123onirc> systemdsucks, ah well guess I have to install freebsd or netbsd or linux
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04:36 < systemdsucks> jason123onirc: well, if linux I can recommend void
04:37 < systemdsucks> last time I tried netbsd was something like 10 years ago
04:39 < jason123onirc> funny thing I have void on this laptop all ready
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10:45 < sibiria> jason123onirc: if you have CSM/compat mode in that BIOS, disable it
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12:25 < oldlaptop> on a core2 machine I'd think it's more likely it's really a real BIOS
12:26 < oldlaptop> not certain though, I suppose
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14:07 < jason123onirc> sibiria, not an oprion 
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18:35 < weezelding> good evening
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18:38 < weezelding> jason123onirc: if you run this command `dmesg | grep LONG` on i386, does it return anything?
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18:40 < jason123onirc> let me see 
18:41 < mischief> there is probably a bug in your bios acpi AML that confuses openbsd
18:41 < jason123onirc> weezelding, https://termbin.com/w24e
18:41 < mischief> you should send a copy to the list and maybe someone smart will look
18:41 < jason123onirc> I did all ready send it to the list
18:41 < weezelding> yes, mischief's claim is high likely true
18:42 < weezelding> and disk drive is set into ahci mode on bios? or ide cannot remember anymore
18:42 < mischief> i saw your photo and dmesg, but not your ACPI dump.
18:42 < jason123onirc> i put the ACPI dump as a reply 
18:42 < jason123onirc> that might be true I think I remember seeing acpi errors on linux 
18:43 < jason123onirc> its set to ahci in the bios
18:43 < weezelding> check
18:43 < mischief> hm.. don't see it. are you sure? https://marc.info/?t=175112645100001&r=1&w=2
18:43 < jason123onirc> ok should i set it to ide or keep 
18:43 < jason123onirc> keep it ahci
18:44 < jason123onirc> assume it should be ahci as per default and who wants it in ide 
18:44 < jason123onirc> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=175113585729698&w=2
18:44 < weezelding> cannot remember which way around i had to set it, it's too far in the past :(
18:44 < mischief> that's dmesg. you need to share the ACPI dump.
18:44 < weezelding> but since you mentioned it's yelling about malloc, it's not likely related
18:44 < jason123onirc> yeah its about malloc
18:44 < mischief> if you booted openbsd i386 successfully, you should be able to find it in /var/db/acpi, and tar that up.
18:45 < sibiria> i had a similar problem with an older motherboard, back in the openbsd 6.0 days
18:45 < sibiria> when setting the shared internal vram to 16mb or less, openbsd's bootloader failed
18:45 < jason123onirc> yeah this is an older laptop 
18:45 < jason123onirc> I wonder if its because I upgraded it from 2gb to 4gb ram
18:46 < sibiria> setting it to 32mb or higher made things run fine
18:46 < sibiria> something with the board's memory layout that was off
18:50 < jason123onirc> oh yeah it says the vram is 8mb in the bios 
18:50 < jason123onirc> i can't change it but I wonder if that is the issue
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19:28 < yang3> Hello, I would like to upgrade 7.6 to 7.7 on amd64. I am reading about Unattended Upgrade, using sysupgrade. So do I simply run 'sysupgrade' inside screen program over ssh ?
19:28 < quinq> yes
19:28 < quinq> Then it'll reboot when done
19:28 < yang3> ok
19:29 < quinq> Then you follow the rest of the upgrade guide
19:29 < yang3> I ran it from /root directory as root
19:32 < systemdsucks> that's ok
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20:02 < byteskeptical> jason123onirc: did you try crystal's suggestion?
20:05 < mischief> somehow crystal's emails go straight to spam
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20:24 < jason123onirc> byteskeptical, yeah it worked 
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20:35 < yang3> it booted into 7.7, but do I still need to run # sysmerge
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20:36 < uwharrie> sysupgrade does sysmerge for you. you'd only need to perform it manually if there were conflicts
20:37 < yang3> ok
20:38 < yang3> so all I need to do now is just  # pkg_add -u
20:38 < yang3> and then its done?
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20:39 < sibiria> you do as the instructions say
20:39 < yang3> or before that # fw_update
20:39 < uwharrie> sysupgrade does fw_update
20:40 < uwharrie> there may be some files to delete as specified by the upgrade guide or sysclean
20:42 < yang3> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/dc3ecd4b/
20:42 < yang3> I guess all is good
20:43 < yang3> removing /sbin/oreboot and then #pkg_add -u
20:45 < yang3> there is no /sbin/oreboot, but there is /sbin/reboot....maybe the manual has a typo ?
20:45 < ivdsangen> sysmerge is not done "---- /etc/ssh/sshd_config unhandled, re-run sysmerge to merge the new version"
20:45 < yang3> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade77.html#RmFiles
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20:45 < yang3> ivdsangen thanks for noticing
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20:52 < yang3> so...about the typo ? Do I need to remove /sbin/reboot ?
20:53 < ivdsangen> i think that part is for manual upgrades only, not when you use sysupgrade
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20:59 < yang3> ok, doing #pkg_add -u
21:00 < jason123onirc> mischief, should I still send an acpi dump to the mailing list?
21:00 < yang3> While I am at upgrading, is there a similar/equal upgrade also for loongson port ?
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21:01 < yang3> IcePic ^
21:02 < mischief> jason123onirc: probably, if you expect someone to be able to diagnose your issue
21:02 < jason123onirc> should I just tar it up and upload it to some file upload service?
21:02 < mischief> you can attach it to the email...
21:03 < jason123onirc> oh yeah 
21:03 < jason123onirc> right
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21:08 < jason123onirc> looks like crystal did not reply to the mailing list and just to me 
21:09 < mischief> they did https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=175113688830094&w=2
21:10 < mischief> what would be neat is if you booted a non-ramdisk kernel that had ddb support, and reproduced the bug
21:10 < jason123onirc> after that 
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21:12 < jason123onirc> there was another email sent after that one
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21:12 < jason123onirc> I will add the acpi dump
21:13 < yang3> ugh I removed /sbin/reboot https://paste.debian.net/1383102/
21:14 < mischief> what did you imagine would happen
21:16 < yang3> heh
21:17 < quinq> You're quite lucky that reboot and halt are the same
21:18 < sibiria> but why did you remove reboot?
21:18 < yang3> oh
21:18 < yang3> well I thought that /sbin/oreboot is a typo on the manual
21:18 < quinq> o stands for old
21:18 < quinq> It's exactly for avoiding being stuck
21:19 < yang3> yes, well noone answered me
21:19 < quinq> # cp /sbin/reboot /sbin/oreboot
21:19 < quinq> # /sbin/oreboot
21:19 < yang3> can I do "cp /sbin/halt /sbin/reboot" ?
21:19 < quinq> Finally, remove /sbin/oreboot
21:20 < quinq> You could but better making it a link, as it was before
21:20 < yang3> okay
21:21 < yang3> ls -la /sbin/reboot
21:21 < yang3> ls: /sbin/reboot: No such file or directory
21:21 < quinq> Yeah, you removed it
21:21 < yang3> i removed it, before
21:21 < quinq> You already said that
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21:23 < sonya> # ln /sbin/halt /sbin/reboot ..
21:23 < yang3> so... "cp /sbin/halt /sbin/reboot" then "cp /sbin/reboot /sbin/oreboot" then "/sbin/oreboot" ?
21:24 < yang3> ok
21:24 < quinq> no
21:24 < yang3> ln ok
21:25 < yang3> it rebooted well now
21:26 < yang3> thanks
21:26 < yang3> and sorry for the confusion
21:26 < yang3> Tomorow I'll try "loongson" upgrade
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23:41 < itrsea> What features are under review? How can I help?
23:45 < ball> itrsea: It sounds as though you're looking for ways to contribute!
23:46 < uwharrie> that type of stuff generally happens on tech@
23:46 < itrsea> tech talk, got it
23:49 < pardis> features? in my openbsd?
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23:55 < ball> I mean, development could mean taking features out...
23:55 < itrsea> I signed up to tech@
23:55 < uwharrie> new "wscons 256 colour support", new watch(1), "remove vmd's send/receive functionality"
23:56 < itrsea> Wide characters? A cron and at utility? Hypervisor containment? I can look at watch.
23:57 < ball> pwd
23:57 < ball> oops, sorry.
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