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00:00 < sibiria> complete vCPU support for the openbsd hypervisor. set forth
00:01 < ball> Does OpenBSD have a RiscV port?
00:03 < ball> ./thing.sh
00:03 < ball> I'm trying to get used to not having soft focus.
00:04 < uwharrie> https://www.openbsd.org/riscv64.html
00:05 < ball> Thanks
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09:22 < usagi_mimi> Good day. I used userdel to remove the user 'build' as advised by sysclean then tried to re-add it using sysmerge as advised on the mailing list. But it errors with "useradd: No such login class `build'". How should I go about fixing this?
09:23 < usagi_mimi> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=175010052003023&w=2 I followed the advice in this thread. 
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09:26 < usagi_mimi> I'm kind of spooked to attempt manually adding it with user mod until I understand what exactly I broke
09:26 < usagi_mimi> I tried the advice to do user mod -L '' build from later in that thread but it didn't work as expected
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09:28 < ivdsangen> is the 'build' login class not added to /etc/login.conf somehow?
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09:53 < sonya> usagi_mimi: get /etc/login.conf from /var/sysmerge/etc.tgz , compare with current /etc/login.conf .. also  /var/sysmerge/etc.tgz contain defaults /etc/*passwd ..
09:55 < sonya> you can review defaults and recreate with 'useradd'/'usermod' if needed..
09:56 < sonya> but may be the cheapest solution - just upgrade/reinstall base system.. 
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12:18 < yang3> IcePic hello
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17:19 < qrx6> idle: 143 days, 19 hours 38 minutes 29 seconds
17:19 < qrx6> time to upgrade
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18:02 < jason123onirc> I been looking at the wireless configuration and in the hostname.iw0 file it looks like I put dhcp at the end for dhcp but I don't see it on the openbsd website anywhere and then netstart says no nwid or join command guessing nwid 
18:03 < jason123onirc> how would I do more than one wireless network? would I just add it to the file as another entry 
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18:09 < systemdsucks> jason123onirc: have you tried reading the manpage for hostname.if?
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18:45 < quinq> Hummm, do I have to put some parameters in sndiod to allow more than one (remote) device to connect to it?
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18:46 < quinq> I have no trouble having several connections from the same host at the same time
18:46 < quinq> But when I try to have two connections, one from each different host, the second one doesn't work
18:46 < quinq> Log just says:
18:46 < quinq> sock(sock|ini): created
18:46 < quinq> sock,rmsg,widl: AUTH message
18:46 < quinq> sock,rmsg,widl: closing
18:46 < quinq> sock(sock|zom): destroyed
18:47 < quinq> Note though that this is on Linux port :/
18:47 < quinq> So not entirely the right place to ask, though the configuration would be the same, if any
18:49 < jason123onirc> systemdsucks, ah i see dhcp is just short for inet autoconf
18:49 < jason123onirc> and then i can add another line for another network
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18:51 < pardis> quinq: might be auth cookie-related, though I don't know for certain if the sndiod daemon itself has a cookie or where it is on the filesystem
18:51 < pardis> for users connecting to a local sndiod, it's in ~/.sndio/cookie per sndio(7)
18:54 < quinq> Well, both hosts have this file, with different value
18:54 < pardis> perhaps sndiod forwards the user's cookie to a remote sndiod, in which case you can try syncing that file between those hosts and see if it helps
18:55 < quinq> man
18:55 < quinq> That works
18:55 < quinq> But that doesn't really explain why
18:55 < quinq> (or at least I don't understand how that would be an intended use case)
18:55 < pardis> because otherwise a user could snoop on another user's recorded audio, for example
18:56 < pardis> the cookie ensures that, unless you explicitly configure it otherwise, only one user can connect to sndiod at a time
18:58 < quinq> Well
18:58 < quinq> The man-page already says that network connection is unsecure anyway and it should only be used on a trusted network
18:59 < quinq> But yeah I get the idea, to control access
18:59 < quinq> Though it still seems a bit weird to do *that* kind of control through cookie only and not device parameters
18:59 < pardis> I suppose it's possible one could have a trusted network with untrusted users if you are providing shell accounts or something
18:59 < quinq> Like giving explicitly access, and/or allowing cookie access multiplexing
19:00 < quinq> Anyway, thanks pardis for solving the issue :)
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20:37 < itrsea> The subscription bot was down, or preventing my email provider.
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20:54 < nephele> Hi! I'm trying to setup OpenBSD for a mail server and have some questions about the ip stack which might not be openbsd specific, are those apropriate here?
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21:05 < sibiria> definitely sounds like it
21:06 < sibiria> itrsea: if you're talking about the mailing list, it aggressively graylists new senders. it should let the e-mail through after a while
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21:08 < yang3> Hello, I migrated from 7.6 to 7.7 on loongson arch, and when compiling "icewm" I get this error: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/22d52c43/
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21:09 < nephele> I'm trying to use ipv6 only, and first question would be what the severall adresses on the interface are for, i have a local one on the lo0 interface, that makes sense to me, but also one starting with fe80 aswell on em0, and then 4 other adresses on em0. Do these have specific functions? And how would i figure out which one would be the one i have to put into my AAAA record (assuming i can get a stable adress, which it currentöy does
21:09 < nephele>  not seem to be, but presumeably i can set this up somehow)
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21:12 < yang3> I merged the /usr/ports from 7.6 to 7.7 as root
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21:16 < sonya> yang3: only guess - imho, complain is: "Error: Libraries in packing-lists in the ports tree and libraries from installed packages don't match" .. remove and old (7.6) ports tree completely and get the new one from cdn/your favorite mirror.. https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.7/ports.tar.gz
21:17 < sonya> yang3: and yes, delete all installed packages before building (as i don't see 7.7-loongson pkgs) ..
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21:23 < yang3> there aren't any loongson packages built for 7.6 and 7.7, I used to compile some for 7.6
21:23 < yang3> so all the 7.6 pacvkages which I have installed on the PC are now to be trashed?
21:24 < yang3> can't they be useed in 7.7?*
21:25 < yang3> I ran "cvs -q -d anoncvs@anoncvs.eu.openbsd.org:/cvs up -Pd -rOPENBSD_7_7" from the /usr/ports directory as root
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21:33 < sibiria> nephele: you'll have a link-local address for starters. if you have additional addresses those would be something coming from your gateway/router
21:33 < sonya> yang3: it's best to rebuild all packages from scratch, yes.. but some may work as well.. and FAQ5 (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Bld) advise not to use root.. and, as i said, it' best to clean up all (previous, 7.6) ports infrastructure and start from scratch..
21:34 < nephele> sibiria: In what way, is that automatically discovered from the gateway? I am asking since in this case the DHCP server is not the router/gateway
21:34 < sonya> nephele: $ man 4 inet6 and all related could help a bit..
21:35 < sibiria> nephele: router advertisement aka slaac
21:35 < sibiria> openbsd will by default have slaacd running for router/neighbor discovery
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21:36 < sibiria> if your interface is configured to do "autoconf" on ipv6 slaacd will pick up on that and try to solicit routes
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21:38 < nephele> okay, makes sense. So for a static adress to use for my AAAA record, should i just specify an additional IPv6 adress in the DHCP config? Or does this make more sense to configure on the machine locally
21:38 < sibiria> i would say that either works. i personally like static ipv6 with autoconf set to discover routes
21:39 < sibiria> so i have something along the lines of "inet6 xxxx::xxxx 64 autoconf" for my ipv6 setup in the respective interfaces needing it
21:44 < nephele> okay. :) Now to figure out what an apropriate adress is i can set... 
21:45 < nephele> are ther doc pages for slaac aswell?
21:46 < nephele> the inet6 man page was quite short and didn't really help me understand more of it :g
21:49 < sibiria> appropriate address depends on what your router/provider is willing to give you
21:50 < sibiria> you configure this differently than in most things linux but the rest is overlapping
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21:51 < nephele> I've never dealt with that in linux either, so that's okay. my only prior experience was a FreeBSD vHost, and that already had a static ipv6 adress, so not something i had to think about
21:51 < sibiria> your ISP (or server host as it may be) will provide you a prefix and within that prefix you should have free reign
21:52 < sibiria> *usually* that prefix will be the first 64 bits. the remainder is the identifier, which is all yours
21:52 < nephele> that's indicated by the prefixlen 64 in the line right?
21:52 < sibiria> right
21:53 < nephele> Not i have two starting with fdf8, and two with 2001, does that mean that both sets contain a prefix for a globally routable adress?
21:53 < nephele> now*
21:55 < nephele> they don't have a scopeid, don't see any differences between both sets with regard to the options anyway :)
21:57 < sibiria> fdf8:: belongs to the "unique local address" space. 2001:: can be both internal and routable
21:57 < sibiria> ipv6 has a lot of messy address scopes...
21:58 < nephele> heh, I wish this was in a more accesible format to read the "read the RFC"... I find those quite hard to chew on sometimes. Thanks :D
21:58 < sibiria> might help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_address#Address_scopes
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22:00 < nephele> thanks
22:01 < thrig> a tool like sipcalc might tell you something about an IP
22:01 < nephele> I'd like to leave one piece of feedback for the installer if possible: The installation itself was nice and straightforward; The only problem I encountered was that I could not download any sets because my system clock was wrong (dead CMOS battery); so i had to reboot after setting the clock in the firmware. The installation only complains about the clock beeing wrong after the points where it would download stuff over https
22:02 < nephele> (and fail because certs are valid in the future)
22:02 < nephele> I consider a dead cmos battery somewhat of a hardware defect, so no biggy, but the other way around would have saved me some time :)
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22:31 < yang3> sonya ok
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22:53 < itrsea> I have a simple Watch shell script. https://termbin.com/w9nu
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23:10 < itrsea> uwharrie: new watch.sh https://termbin.com/w9nu
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23:29 < PyR3X> does the openbsd response file support a encrypted password when encrypting the root disk or does it have to be in plaintext?
23:29 < PyR3X> Encrypt the root disk with a (p)assphrase or (k)eydisk = p
23:29 < PyR3X> New passphrase = testing123456
23:30 < PyR3X> like can I encrypt this via encrypt? it does not seem to work
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23:35 < quinq> itrsea, better with "$@" ;)
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23:47 < itrsea> https://termbin.com/e7xs with better support of whitespace
23:48 < itrsea> Watch script with better parameter handling.
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23:59 < emmanuelux> hello,  "savecore: /dev/sd0b: Device not configured" : is it important? i changed swap partition by a file
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