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00:23 < ilx> Hi all, I'm running OpenBSD 7.7 and trying to serve a directory outside of /var/www using httpd. I used to do this with mount_null, but it seems mount_null is no longer in base. What's the recommended way to expose data from outside the chroot in 7.7 httpd?
00:24 < thrig> NFS is sometimes used in clever ways
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00:28 < ilx> thrig, Thank you
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06:45 < jfsimon> Good morning
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07:15 < enrh> Allegedly
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14:18 < ssm_> ilx: nfs is how we do linux bind mounts, since we don't have bind mounts (aka ln -s but works inside a chroot)
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21:48 < noodle> hi everyone. unbound randomly started giving SERVFAIL with errors like 'unbound: [15198:0] error: udp connect failed: No route to host for 2001:XXX::XX port 53 (len 28) '. i set do-ip6: no but i still get the same errors. how should i go about it? thx
21:48 < noodle> kern.version=OpenBSD 7.7-current (GENERIC.MP) #23: Thu Jun 19 00:59:30 MDT 2025
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22:09 < noodle> for the record, my network is ipv4-only so i don't need the ipv6 part of unbound
22:09 < Bradipo> Can it just be disabled then?
22:10 < Bradipo> Oh, you said you have "do-ip6: no"
22:11 < noodle> Bradipo: if you mean unbound, i can resolve dns without problems with 9.9.99 in my resolv.conf instead, but the machine uses it and serves dns to stuff in the subnet bc it's a gateway
22:11 < noodle> 9.9.9.9*
22:11 < Bradipo> Right, but you said you're getting unbound errors about IPv6 failures.
22:11 < Bradipo> Which is odd given that you have "do-ip6: no" in unbound.conf
22:12 < noodle> yeah
22:12 < Bradipo> You could also specify "outgoing-interface:" and only list the IPv4 address.
22:12 < sibiria> noodle: do you happen to have forward-zones in which you specify a hostname as forward-addr?
22:14 < noodle> Bradipo: nevermind. i reran 'unbound -dvvvvv' and i don't get the ipv6 errors anymore. i guess the line disabling ipv6 wasn't in effect back then. sorry. but i still get SERVFAIL
22:14 < noodle> sibiria: yeah but only for the website hosted on the machine. sends to nsd
22:14 < noodle> lemme upload my config
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22:18 < noodle> here https://termbin.com/bxcg
22:19 < noodle> nsd listens on 5678 to resolve queries related to mywebsite.com because nsd and unbound run on the same machine
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22:23 < noodle> Bradipo: outgoing-interface is not set so it should use all. but yeah ipv6 errors don't show up anymore now so i think it's fine
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22:23 < noodle> i get no errors on stderr of unbound -dvvvvv or on syslog now. still SERVFAIL
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22:26 < Bradipo> SERVFAIL for IPv6 queries?
22:27 < sibiria> what is giving SERVFAIL, this very instance or something else gets SERVFAIL as response from it?
22:27 < noodle> Bradipo not sure but i get it via `dig openbsd.org'
22:27 < sibiria> ok so it gets servfail when trying to resolve
22:27 < noodle> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 9001
22:27 < noodle> yea
22:27 < sibiria> it's not related but i notice you listen for ip6 but do-ip6 will disable inbound as well
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22:28 < sibiria> do-ip6: no*
22:28 < noodle> yeah ipv6 isn't turned on at the router level so it's alright
22:28 < noodle> i did this to get rid of the ipv6 errors in syslogd
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22:29 < sibiria> you haven't loaded the iterator
22:29 < sibiria> is it loaded by default?
22:29 < sibiria> because you have no catch-all forward-zone in the config you pasted
22:30 < sibiria> so only "mywebsite.com" will return a response
22:30 < sibiria> it's your only zone
22:30 < noodle> neither mywebsite.com work ToT
22:32 < noodle> sibiria: i can see it says `debug: module config: "validator iterator"' on unbound output and `unbound: [32910:0] notice: init module 1: iterator' on syslogd output so i think the iterator is loaded
22:32 < noodle> > so only "mywebsite.com" will return a response
22:32 < noodle> weirdly that setup always worked without adding additional things. i remember changing some stuff on the firewall tho so that might be it. i'll check tcpdump too
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22:34 < noodle> i have `set skip on lo' tho. weird
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22:38 < noodle> lol i see localhost.28447 > localhost.domain: 44845+ [1au] A? openbsd.org.(40)     then      localhost.domain > localhost.28447: 44845 ServFail 0/0/1(40)
22:40 < noodle> > because you have no catch-all forward-zone in the config you pasted
22:40 < noodle> sibiria: afaik it only delegates dns for that zone to the forward-addr so it should be fine
22:40 < noodle> s/that zone/"name: "/
22:41 < noodle> i'll try to nuke and redo the config 
22:43 < noodle> is there a reference unbound.conf?
22:44 < noodle> alr in /usr/src. sorry
22:45 < sonya> noodle: guess sibiria is right and there's no need to start over.. uncomment forward-zone:  name: "."  forward-addr: 9.9.9.9@53   ... to check it..
22:46 < noodle> i got the default from /usr/src/etc/unbound.conf. still SERVFAIL
22:48 < noodle> using # $OpenBSD: unbound.conf,v 1.21 2020/10/28 11:35:58 sthen Exp $
22:48 < sibiria> at this point i'd run tcpdump on the interface the traffic is supposed to leave on and see if anything goes out and if anything comes in
22:49 < sibiria> to get an idea if something in your pf ruleset is blocking the traffic out or on its way back in
22:49 < noodle> sibiria: yeah i posted the tcpdump: it's `localhost.21525 > localhost.domain: 35101+ [1au] A? opensbd.org.(40)' `localhost.domain > localhost.21525: 35101 ServFail 0/0/1(40)'
22:50 < noodle> # tcpdump -i lo0
22:50 < sibiria> ah, sorry, didn't see that
22:50 < noodle> no worries
22:50 < noodle> i'm thinking a file went corrupt or something xD
22:50 < sibiria> ok but you're asking quad9. what happens on your actual interface?
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22:50 < noodle> sibiria: no my /etc/resolv.conf has `nameserver 127.0.0.1'
22:51 < noodle> `lookup file bind'
22:51 < sibiria> yes and unbound is set to forward to quad9
22:51 < noodle> really? i thought it doesn't forward unless you uncomment the forward lines
22:51 < sibiria> didn't you?
22:52 < sonya> he didn't ..
22:52 < sibiria> if your resolv.conf only has 127.0.0.1, you will be asking on the loopback interface (where your unbound is listening)
22:52 < noodle> i'm saying i `cp /usr/src/etc/unbound.conf /var/unbound/etc/unbound.conf'
22:52 < noodle> and ran unbound -dvvvvv
22:52 < sibiria> if your unbound does not have a suitable zone, it can't respond with anything else than SERVFAIL
22:53 < noodle> it works just fine on my other machine
22:53 < noodle> without a forward-zone
22:53 < sibiria> they are clearly not running the same configs on the whole
22:54 < sibiria> so that's why i'm suggesting you sniff whatever interface is your egress
22:54 < sibiria> to see if traffic ever tries to leave the machine
22:56 < noodle> > they are clearly not running the same configs on the whole
22:56 < noodle> they are. i just diffed /usr/src/etc/unbound.conf /var/unbound/etc/unbound.conf with the faulty machine and another machine i have and both have the same config. one of them is returning NOERROR tho
22:56 < sonya> and may be it's more comfy use interface names, instead of addresses, like interface: em0 instead of interface: 192.168.0.1
22:56 < sibiria> so if you sniff traffic on the egress, can you see it iterate on its own, or forward traffic to quad9 if you enable the catch-all zone?
22:57 < noodle> alrighty, i'm checking egress now
22:57 < noodle> sonya: noted thx
22:58 < noodle> '# tcpdump -i em0 port 53' right? (em0 is my egress)
22:58 < sibiria> yes
22:58 < noodle> alr thx
22:58 < sibiria> can add -n as well since your name resolution seems unwell :p
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23:05 < noodle> sibiria: alright i got dozens of packets. should i paste it all? not sure if i should censor it or if it matters as it has the egress ip. here're the first 6 packet's contents `37437% [1au] NS? .(28)' `37437*- 14/0/27 NS a.root-servers.net., NS b.root-servers.net., NS[|domain]' `5645% [1au] NS? .(28)' `25266% [1au] NS? .(28)' `5645*- 14/0/27 NS g.root-servers.net., NS h.root-servers.net.,[|domain]' `14/0/27 NS a.root-servers.net., NS b.root-servers.net., NS[
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23:06 < noodle> dig seems to servfail but the packets keeping going in/out on tcpdump
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23:09 < noodle> sibiria: also forgot to say i don the -n too :)
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23:10 < noodle> s/don/done/
23:11 < sibiria> does it progress beyond asking the root servers?
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23:11 < sibiria> that is, do you see the entire inquiry until the end
23:12 < noodle> i'm not sure i don't know dns language ;-;
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23:12 < sibiria> does it ask for anything besides the root servers afterwards?
23:12 < sibiria> because that's the first step in iterating the answer
23:12 < sonya> noodle: i don't see in your unbound.conf this line: root-hints: "/var/unbound/db/root.hints" ... to get root.hints do # ftp -S do -o /var/unbound/db/root.hints https://www.internic.net/domain/named.root  ..
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23:13 < sibiria> you clearly get packets out but i get the feeling you're not getting the responses
23:14 < sonya> it's under # Perform DNSSEC validation.
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23:14 < noodle> sibiria: hmm
23:14 < sibiria> tcpdump always sniffs the outside of the interface. so if you see nothing go out it's PF blocking it. if you see something come back but you still can't resolve, it means PF is blocking it
23:15 < noodle> sibiria: nah i didn't download any hints. it works without config on other machines so i never did it
23:16 < noodle> sorry i was @ing sonya
23:16  * sonya is out, sorry, bb
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23:16 < noodle> oh okay
23:17 < noodle> sibira: alr i'll look in the pflog0 thing too
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23:17 < noodle> i got it to log blocked packets
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23:23 < noodle> brb
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23:45 < noodle> back. it's a bit tricky bc i remember the 2 machines behind gateway are sending dns requests too
23:45 < noodle> i'll try to update to the latest snapshot. won't hurt
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23:57 < noodle> sibiria: somehow upgrading snapshots fixed it. stock unbound working fine now. i think some system file was corrupt (psu burnt recently and had to get a new one. maybe disk got silently corrupted). thx a lot and sorry for the hassle :)
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