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07:22 < rIMpossible> sonya: thx
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10:05 < ssm_> looking at marc.info, I think a good metric of how popular openbsd has gotten year to year is comparing the monthly total of messages on various lists
10:06 < ssm_> seems past 2020 openbsd has actually dropped off in total message in general :/
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10:12 < sibiria> good. more openbsd for the rest of us
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12:39 < Emru> anyone using Huawei E3372 GSM modem with OpenBSD?
12:40 < Emru> I'm following https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/r0bx9l/trying_to_make_huawei_e3372h320_modem_work/
12:40 < Emru> to make it work
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12:45 < Emru> looks okay for now, now it shows in ifconfig
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13:26 < rIMpossible> What is the absolut minimum size of a disklabel for newfs to create a ffs ?
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13:40 < sonya> rIMpossible: only guess - size of a single sector.. default is 512 bytes..
13:40 < quinq> Plus header
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13:43 < sibiria> i would guess minimum block size and a bit more
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13:43 < sibiria> which is 8-16kb or so by default
13:49 < Posterdati> hi
13:50 < Posterdati> please how can I resize /var/log/pflog.0 file? Thanks!
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13:51 < sonya> Posterdati: $ man newsyslog .. $ vi /etc/newsyslog.conf --> adjust required max size and archive options
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13:59 < Posterdati> sonya: thanks
14:00 < Posterdati> sonya: newsyslog rotates the files but it won't truncate the hugest (12GB of pflog file)
14:00 < Posterdati> in /etc/newsyslog.conf there is
14:00 < sibiria> because it has already been rotated
14:01 < sibiria> it will only cutt of and rotate the nominal log entry
14:01 < sibiria> cut off*
14:01 < Posterdati> ok
14:01 < Posterdati> in newsyslog.conf count = 60
14:01 < Posterdati> size = 250
14:01 < sibiria> size is in kb
14:02 < Posterdati> yes 250kb
14:02 < Posterdati> but I have pflog.0 = 12.5 GB
14:02 < Bradipo> That should be gzipped eventually.
14:02 < Posterdati> now became pflog.2
14:02 < Bradipo> As long as flags has Z in it.
14:02 < Posterdati> ZB
14:03 < Bradipo> Is there enough space to zip it?
14:03 < Posterdati> no
14:03 < Posterdati> var is full due to it
14:03 < sibiria> do you need the file? do you need to save all that traffic?
14:03 < Posterdati> not all
14:03 < Posterdati> I need the last logs
14:03 < Bradipo> Ok, well, that's why.  You're in a state where newsyslog cannot make a good choice.
14:04 < Posterdati> ok can we help it out?
14:04 < sibiria> let me get my spell wand and i'll magically increase your HDD and label sizes
14:04 < sibiria> why not just copy the file elsewhere then delete it?
14:05 < Posterdati> :) I think I will get rid of it and that's all :)
14:05 < Posterdati> truncate -s 0
14:05  * sibiria never uses pflog
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14:06 < Bradipo> Never heard of a truncate command.
14:06 < Posterdati> pkg_add truncate
14:06 < Bradipo> Waste of effort.
14:06 < sibiria> false > filename
14:06 < Bradipo> You can truncate a file by just doing: > /tmp/filename
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14:07 < sibiria> empties the file. truncate truncates
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14:08 < thrig> :>filename
14:08 < Bradipo> I suppose if the file is large there may be a difference.
14:08 < sibiria> no, just that truncate can TRUNCATE at specific offset to let you keep a certain size
14:10 < Bradipo> Ok, I can think of 0 times in 30 years of using Unix that I've needed to do that. :-)
14:12 < IcePic> making an open file into 0 bytes is useful, but I don't think I've needed to truncate to a non-zero size either
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14:15 < sibiria> i make use of it at work to create audio previews of raw recordings
14:16 < Posterdati> thanks for help
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14:24 < rIMpossible> sibiria: Thx.
14:32 < Bradipo> I can truncate a file at a given location using dd(1).  For example, to truncate after the first 1k bytes of data: dd bs=1k count=0 seek=1 if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/filename
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14:38 < sibiria> truncate is a wrapper around ftruncate(), a POSIX function call
14:39 < Bradipo> dd just uses seek() I imagine.
14:39 < Bradipo> But I could be wrong, it might use truncate()
14:40 < Bradipo> Or ftruncate().
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15:37 < oldlaptop> dd appears to use lseek(), if I'm reading right (bin/dd/position.c)
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15:41 < Bradipo> But then how does it truncate the file?
15:41 < Bradipo> Because that's exactly what the magic incantation I posted above does. :-)
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15:59 < oldlaptop> ...aha, there's the frtuncate() in dd.c, about two thirds of the way through setup()
16:02 < oldlaptop> heck of a lot more complicated than dragonfly truncate, though
16:03 < oldlaptop> (and its syntax is, literally, a joke)
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16:12 < thrig> dd came from some other OS so strays from unix conventions and caused sh to be changed
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16:34 < rIMpossible> How to use 'duid.i' in the mount command ?
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16:37 < rIMpossible> For example, mount /dev/sd3i /mnt ?
16:38 < rIMpossible> I tried with mount duid.i /mnt, and get mount_ffs: duid.i on /mnt: No such file or directory
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17:04 < uwharrie> how are you obtaining the DUID?
17:06 < rIMpossible> disklabel sd[0-3] | grep duid
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17:40 < kuzdra> rIMpossible: from mount(8): Mount an MS-DOS USB stick with DUID 3eb7f9da875cb9ee on node /mnt/key: # mount -t msdos 3eb7f9da875cb9ee.i /mnt/key ## have you tried that?
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18:03 < kuzdra> It doesn't seem to work for me, though *shrug*. Perhaps, it doesn't use opendev(3)
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19:49 < Feigr> On a fresh install of OpenBSD when using an Intel CPU, there are Intel firmware packages installed if you look at pkg_info. Are there any such packages installed by default when using an AMD CPU?
19:50 < uwharrie> `amd-firmware-20250509 microcode update binaries for AMD CPUs`
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20:07 < Feigr> uwharrie: thanks!
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21:57 < adonis> I setup an authoritative name server: coredns that forwards to the system unbound resolver, but since coredns is a package, it loads after unbound and ntpd.. there are various services trying to do dns but can't because coredns loads after them. How can I make coredns run after unbound but before ntpd?
22:00 < adonis> On system boot I see unbound and ntpd seem to be "Early Daemons" as per the line Starting Early Daemons: "..."
22:03 < uwharrie> the typical approach I've seen is to disable them and launch them rc.local
22:04 < uwharrie> the other is to hack /etc/rc and add your changes back on upgrade
22:04 < uwharrie> but, any reason to use it over nsd?
22:05 < adonis> uwharrie: yea its because I'm doing something like bind9 views with coredns
22:06 < adonis> I tried the disable unbound, ntpd approach and then run coredns, sleep, run unbound, sleep, run ntpd.. but for some odd reason when that runs my networking interfaces are messed up somehow? I can't ping the machine or have access to it.
22:06 < adonis> as in disable and make the changes in rc.local
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22:06 < pardis> you just said you want it to start after unbound
22:07 < adonis> pardis: sorry, order in message above is wrong.. yes its unbound, coredns, then ntpd
22:07 < pardis> in that case you can leave unbound enabled and just start coredns and ntpd in rc.local (or, my preference, rc.securelevel)
22:07 < pardis> something like ntpd is relied upon by a lot of things so I would try to start it as early as possible
22:08 < pardis> and rc.securelevel is the earliest possible time to inject custom commands into the boot sequence without hacking on /etc/rc
22:08 < pardis> (technically netstart comes sooner but using that to start daemons would be incredibly hacky)
22:09 < pardis> I don't know what you mean by your network interfaces being messed up because there isn't enough information to know what that could possibly be
22:11 < adonis> pardis: yea I know that’s a bit vague, but from what I saw, my localhost lo0 interface had a bunch of global 2600:: ipv6 addresses assigned and pings on the main network just kept returning REFUSED.. its very weird but let me attempt again
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22:11 < adonis> brb
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