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04:55 < ninjin> Is there a way to check the number of file descriptors open per user/process?
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05:25 < mischief> ninjin: try fstat
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05:56 < ninjin> mischief: Thank you. Having my first ever fight with a program that is "hungry" when it comes to file descriptors and not behaving properly despite me raising limits in login.conf.
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06:21 < AmyMalik> that's very interesting... by chance what's the programme called?
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06:23 < ninjin> AmyMalik: Transmission, and it is quickly working its place towards the top of software I use and dislike.
06:24 < AmyMalik> ope.
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06:25 < quinq> I have transmission_daemon::openfiles=4096::tc=daemon:, no issue with this
06:27 < ninjin> quinq: fstat(1) is giving me only about 100 descriptors and all sockets. So I am not sure what is going on. Then again, I have over two thousand torrents active.
06:28 < ninjin> I could go and read Tranmission's source code again. But I'd rather not after debugging it last time.
06:28 < mischief> the fd table could grow and shrink rapidly, depending on how many peers and trackers it might go contact
06:28 < ninjin> mischief: Any sensible way to catch that other than hammering fstat(1) or patching Transmission?
06:29 < quinq> oh wow
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06:29 < quinq> Indeed 2000 sounds like *a lot* and my setup is like 40 times less than that
06:29 < ninjin> I have _transmission::openfiles=4096 for now and will see how it turns out.
06:29 < quinq> Then try increasing it to 16k
06:30 < mischief> maybe a fancy btrace program, or a gdb script
06:30 < ninjin> That would be fun to write actually, will make a note of it.
06:30 < quinq> I'm not sure it's a “transmission” issue really
06:31 < quinq> It's the relatively big number of current files, and transmission settings
06:31 < quinq> IIRC you have knobs like peers per file etc.
06:31 < quinq> s/peers/number of &/
06:31 < quinq> s/file/torrent/
06:31 < ninjin> Yes, I have started playing with that and I think it is the only knob we can turn.
06:31 < quinq> ok :)
06:32 < ninjin> transmission-remote over a Unix socket is broken on OpenBSD from what I can tell by the way.
06:32 < quinq> I only use it over TCP
06:33 < ninjin> That is fair, I just dislike access control over HTTP compared to a Unix socket if you are local anyway.
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06:34 < quinq> yeah
06:35 < ninjin> I have a list of about ten pet peeves with Transmission via CLI, but I will spare the poor channel. ;)
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06:43 < IcePic> bumping sysctl -a|grep files                                                      
06:43 < IcePic> kern.maxfiles=7030
06:43 < IcePic> before setting limit to 16k might be in order
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06:45 < ninjin> IcePic: Cheers!
06:45 < IcePic> and/or bumping it "only" to 7k of course
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07:13 < mischief> ninjin: unix socket seems to work here
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07:13 < mischief> transmission-daemon --rpc-bind-address unix:/var/run/transmission.sock & transmission-remote --unix-socket /var/run/transmission.sock --list
07:14 < ninjin> mischief: Oh? Let me have a look at that again then. On 7.7?
07:14 < ninjin> I did it via the configuratian, but I refuse to believe that the code path is substantially different.
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07:24 < shtrophic> if a system does not have a RTC, therefore its time is very wrong at startup and ntpd would take too long to adjust the clock, how would you make the clock sync?
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07:24 < shtrophic> put "rdate quad9.net" into /etc/rc.local?
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07:27 < IcePic> you would need to run this rdate before ntpd starts. rc.local might be a bit late
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07:33 < shtrophic> putting it before "start_daemon ... ntpd" in /etc/rc feels ... wrong
07:34 < shtrophic> does it have to be before ntpd starts?
07:39 < IcePic> well, its better for ntpd if clock is close to correct before it starts fine tuning it, I guess
07:41 < IcePic> if you use ntp constraints, I would think that the date needs to be somewhat close to ok to validate the cert
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12:13 < ninjin> After staring a bit on fstat I refused to believe I was actually having thousands of descriptors. Turns out I was a dummy and assumed that _transmission in login.conf would map to the user. By default _transmission is in the default login class and it remained there and my changes had no effect.
12:14 < ninjin> Now before I am fine with the solution, I am trying to figure out where the login class is recorded. Because despite being told it is in /etc/password field 5, I can not figure out how the mapping works my digging through manpages.
12:20 < mischief> ninjin: there's some magic in rc.subr(8) to set it
12:21 < mischief> short story: the login class is the name of the rc.d script, or `daemon` if there's no such class.
12:22 < ninjin> Cheers, I can see it. I was digging around there a few weeks ago as I wanted to see how privilege dropping worked in shell, so I will just head back in.
12:23 < ninjin> Still puzzled where usermod -L records it though. But I will find it.
12:25 < mischief> probably passwd
12:26 < ninjin> Yeah, passwd(5) says it is in the fifth column. But that string is "Transmission Account", which is the same as before I ran usermod -L.
12:33 < zelest> ninjin, It's the fifth column in /etc/master.passwd, not /etc/passwd :)
12:34 < ninjin> zelest: Thanks, now all is all right in my OpenBSD mental model again. =)
12:34 < zelest> :D
12:36 < zelest> https://man.ifconfig.se/passwd.5 mentions it pretty nicely :)
12:37 < ninjin> Yes, but it helps not to have played Civilization V until 04:00 in the morning only to have their wife rip them out of bed at 07:30. '^^
12:40  * sonya build latest freeciv.. but now walking through 'Medal of Honour' with OpenMOHAA (again..) .. 
12:41 < ninjin> Oh, actually, on the note of games. Let me share this: https://got.pontus.stenetorp.se/?action=summary&headref=openbsd&path=perfect_dark
12:42 < ninjin> Not a difficult port, but it builds and runs nicely on OpenBSD. Although the framerate on all my boxes were less than ideal.
12:44 < sonya> may be.. after 'Another World'.. or else.. :))
12:47  * mischief plays cataclysm dark days ahead
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12:48 < mischief> accidentally debug spawned one of every item, activated a bomb, waiting for the game to process blowing up every item
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13:34 < la_mettrie> is there any information available on OpenBSD's device support for Star64 board?
13:38 < CosmicDJ> la_mettrie: is there support at all? https://www.openbsd.org/riscv64.html
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13:39 < la_mettrie> CosmicDJ: it's the same jh7110 chip as VisionFive2 so one could suppose it might work a bit
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13:51 < oldlaptop> It is entirely possible you're the first person to think that.
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13:54 < il> lol, is that encouragement or discouragement
13:59 < IcePic> its not so much about the cpu as how the stuff around it presents itself
14:00 < IcePic> if the serial ports and disk controllers and bus controllers are in random places and no DTB is correctly telling where they are, then you might boot into something that "runs" but can't communicate
14:00 < IcePic> I have this risc-v at home that is in that state: https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/dmesgd?do=view&id=8381
14:04 < mischief> same for my milk-v megrez.
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14:16 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> sonya is OpenMOHAA an openbsd pkg ?
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14:25 < vortexx> la_mettrie: https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/dmesgd check here
14:25 < vortexx> maybe someone managed to boot it
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14:56 < sonya> g4rrgl3n0m4d: no.. and you need this patch:  https://termbin.com/51k2  --> for a nice build.. also it's best to install to some dir in your ~ , imho (use DESTDIR=)..
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14:58 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> cool thanks sonya
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14:59 < sonya> g4rrgl3n0m4d: patch is for 0.82.0 version..
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15:06 < ssm_> is there a way to get dpb(1) to fetch packages like with bsd.port.mk(5)'s FETCH_PACKAGES macro? (maybe the correct thing to do is use dpb's -R flag, I just don't want to have to rebuild rust, jdk, gcc, llvm, and theo knows what else every time I move snapshots)
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15:07 < ssm_> pkg_add `<bigpackages` in the chroot and rebuild everything else lol
15:08 < ssm_> though that doesn't give me the actual package tgz, just the unzipped contents, but you get the point
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15:14 < thrig> I like big packages
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15:25 < vortexx> ssm_: iirc stick FETCH_PACKAGES=YES in /etc/mk.conf of the proot made chroot iirc
15:26 < vortexx> or just make sure all these packages .tgzs are in your data dir (/path/to/chroot/data/packages/$arch/all) ?
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21:06 < pony> https://nostarch.com/book-of-pf-4th-edition
21:06 < pony> whoa
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21:12 < thrig> it got mentioned on one of the mailing lists
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21:13 < kuzdra> ^- <mid:aG5HOlNxdi7lKGO1@skapet.bsdly.net>
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21:15 < kuzdra> == https://marc.info/?i=aG5HOlNxdi7lKGO1@skapet.bsdly.net
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