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00:35 < dzwdz> am i missing some obvious way to add routes going through an interface in hostname.if without manually specifying the ips
00:36 < dzwdz> right now i have "inet 192.0.2.1" "!route add 198.51.100.1 192.0.2.1", but i'd prefer to do something like "!route add 198.51.100.1 \$if"
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00:50 < mischief> dzwdz: perhaps you need the -iface flag
00:53 < dzwdz> i actually specifically don't want -iface for other reasons
00:54 < dzwdz> but "!route add 198.51.100.1 -iface \$if" doesn't work either
00:54 < dzwdz> it tries to parse the interface name as an ip address
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01:04 < pardis> and how do you expect the system to figure out where to route the packet?
01:05 < dzwdz> "without manually specifying the ips" - i just don't want to repeat the ip i've already specified in the hostname.if file
01:05 < dzwdz> oh, you're referring to not using -iface
01:06 < pardis> this makes no sense at all, why are you routing a packet via yourself?
01:06 < dzwdz> whatever, that part is unrelated
01:06 < dzwdz> if i specify -iface this still doesn't work
01:06 < pardis> if it even works to route a packet via a local address, all you will do is create a routing loop
01:06 < dzwdz> but i'm doing this because of some details of the source address selection algorithm, if you were in this channel a few days ago you can search for my nick
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01:07 < dzwdz> this does work and do what i intend it to do - this is a wireguard interface and it just sends the packet to the peer as intended
01:07 < pardis> ah, okay
01:07 < dzwdz> i'm... not really sure why to be honest?
01:07 < pardis> I suspect that because this normally does not make sense to do, nobody has bothered making it concise
01:07 < dzwdz> but once again, this is an issue even if i specify -iface
01:08 < dzwdz> "!route add 198.51.100.1 -iface \$if" doesn't work either
01:09 < dzwdz> and that does seem pretty sensible
01:09 < pardis> it's been a while since I used -iface but I think (and the route(8) synopsis for 'route add' suggests) you still have to specify a "gateway"
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01:10 < pardis> it's probably just the same as the destination address in that case
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01:12 < dzwdz> it's the interface address
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05:45 < sd0> dzwdz: "!route add 198.51.100.1 -link -iface \$if"
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06:05 < kwami_> Hi guys, I facing problems with openDKIM. "Permission denied on file /etc/mail/dkim/trustedhosts dkimf_db_open()" I alread set permission to 770 just to test with "root:_opendkim; _opendkim:root" dostn work ----> any clue
06:06 < kwami_> Iam**
06:06 < kwami_> doesn't**
06:16 < mischief> check the permissions of the parent directories?
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07:10 < kwami_> @mischief I notice that when I start the opendkim daemon it goes ok, the problem comes when I start the smtpd 
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08:09 < rIMpossible> G'morning
08:11 < rIMpossible> For pppoe with pppd I would need to pass 'option PPPOE_TERM_UNKNOWN_SESSIONS' to the kernel at boot time.
08:11 < rIMpossible> Do I need to put that line in /etc/bsd.re-config ?
08:13 < mischief> it's a build option
08:13 < mischief> compile a kernel
08:14 < rIMpossible> mischief: besides using UKC - is this the only possibility to make it permanent?
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08:24 < mischief> rIMpossible: options(4) is not even a part of UKC
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08:29 < rIMpossible> mischief: ok, again what learned :)
08:31 < rIMpossible> Another question: How stable is Wayland on OpenBSD 7.7-stable ? I have no experience at all with it. I use DT apps like LibreOffice, FireFox, Chromium, GIMP, ...
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08:54 < mischief> never tried it. i don't even use it on linux yet.
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09:08 < rIMpossible> ok
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09:12 < ssm_> I haven't used wayland, but I can say that `arcan console` with arcan_sdl is the highest latency terminal I've ever used on openbsd. very exciting
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09:13 < ssm_> probably runs better using arcan_frameserver
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09:27 < AmyMalik> highest latency as in worst latency?
09:32 < ssm_> yes
09:39 < mischief> if i switched to anything it would probably be ghostty
09:39 < mischief> haven't tried it yet on openbsd though
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09:43 < ssm_> doesn't seem to be ported?
09:44 < ssm_> pkg_locate says no
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10:11 < mischief> ssm_: unfortunately it does not build, but it's like 95% of the way there
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10:14 < sibiria> "just needs Vulkan support and RTX4060 drivers"
10:15 < puffybuf> rIMpossible: I use wayland. it works but there's some problems. seatd needs to be suid
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10:16 < mischief> sibiria: i think it really only needs opengl, and a few of the usual suspects like fontconfig/harfbuzz
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11:28 < rIMpossible> puffybuf: Is there a howto somewhere online, how to configure it to get fast results?
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11:46 < dzwdz> sd0: thanks
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18:04 < puffybuf> rIMpossible: I mean I can post my startup scripts I guess. I use sway as my 'window manager'
18:05 < puffybuf> oh I am running current though
18:08 < rIMpossible> puffybuf: -current doesn't matter. Can you paste it in an online bin?
18:08 < puffybuf> but really all you need to do is chmod u+s /usr/local/bin/seatd-launch   then run your compositor (gnome, sway etc)  exec /usr/local/bin/seatd-launch --exit-with-session /usr/local/bin/sway >> $WAYLOG 2>&1
18:08 < rIMpossible> I decided for sway as well
18:11 < puffybuf> you can change mouse sensitivity with wsconsctl mouse.scaling=1.5        or wsconsctl mouse1.scaling
18:11 < rIMpossible> ok, thx so far
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21:29 < user0> whats new here?!
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21:35 < tux0r> i am!
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