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01:22 < ax0n> Anyone got time to help me figure out "path strip" magic in relayd.conf? I've been pulling my hair out for 2 days. This should be simple. I have a static dashboard via httpd on :8081, and two Python Flask apps: an API on :5000 and something else I'll call "CHN" on :5001.     match request path "/dash/*" forward to <dash>   and a matching   forward to <dash> port 8081  for example - I can get them all routed 
01:22 < ax0n> to the right backend listeners, but I can't get /dash or /api stripped from the respective requests that hit the backend. Examples online are not helping me. Ideas?
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01:25 < ax0n> Actual conf I'm starting with: https://gist.github.com/n0xa/c974fdb648b6e6fc90a83277e10b1036
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04:22 < echelon> https://pastee.dev/r/i6KfnwXe
04:22 < echelon> so i have to install rust in order to build py3-cryptography?
04:23 < echelon> i tried pkg_add esphome, but it wants cryptogrpahy==45.0.1
04:26 < echelon> alright, looks like it's progressing after installing rust
04:26 < echelon> let's see how long it takes on a 1.1ghz system
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05:26 < vortexx> echelon: at least you're not building rust
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05:29 < echelon> true
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07:48 < kuzdra> echelon: "pkg_add py3-cryptography" didn't help?
07:50 < IcePic> echelon: yeah, platforms w/o rust will not get py-crypto anymore. 8-/
07:50 < echelon> no, pip3 install esphome wants cryptography==45.0.1, openbsd ports only has cryptography==44.x.x
07:51 < kuzdra> It's 45.0.5 in current. You must be running stable then.
07:54 < IcePic> usually a bad idea to mix pkg_* tools installing stuff with "pip" installing stuff
07:54 < IcePic> same goes for perl/cpan and so on of course
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07:59 < echelon> it's within pyvenv
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08:02 < IcePic> still, the pip seems to install things lots newer than the packages you have installed
08:03 < IcePic> so then the esphome wants a newer py-crypto than pkg_add supplied
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09:02 < renaud> why not use a venv, so you can put whatever py-crypto you want?
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09:14 < anthk_> yep, I had that issue with some mesh based software on i686
09:14 < anthk_> exacly that
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09:17 < mischief> can esphome even work on openbsd? it uses platformio which needs toolchains...
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09:59 < anthk_> I hate not having that mesh based client on i686, fuck rust and his viral infection on software
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10:00 < anthk_> if it were written in golang, it would paradoxically be more portable than python
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10:01 < sibiria> i never liked python. not anything about it. i just willingly put up with it when necessary, because i'm a friendly employee
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10:34 < kuzdra> sibiria: what do you personally prefer was used instead?
10:35 < sibiria> anything
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10:35 < sibiria> gwbasic on msdos
10:35 < sibiria> amos on aimga
10:35 < sibiria> amiga*
10:35 < sibiria> etc.
10:36 < kuzdra> sibiria: do you work with MSDOS and Amiga on your $job?
10:36 < sibiria> no, but that sounds like a dreamjob to me
10:36 < kuzdra> Yeah, sigh. I got excited for a second.
10:36 < sibiria> i work with perl and python on my job
10:37 < kuzdra> Do you share the same sentiment about Perl?
10:38 < sibiria> perl() for @life; # hint
10:38 < sibiria> i love perl
10:39 < kuzdra> There goes a potential answer to my original question (-: For me personally it's very hard to like Python because I've been already liking Perl for way too long
10:39 < sibiria> i was happy and then we started using python for various things. and i got sad. and got butt cancer. and my butt fell off
10:39 < kuzdra> Ouch
10:40 < kuzdra> Expression "Python kicks ass" gets a brand new meaning.
10:41 < ivdsangen> maybe we have a tendency to like the languages we first learn, i used python before perl and still like python, but i have only minimally used perl
10:42 < sibiria> i used python before perl, too
10:42 < sibiria> or, well, pretty much at the same time
10:43 < kuzdra> Which reminds me to ask afresh1 something... Hi! I found out that you might be responsible for porting system Perl. I found your set of patches on GitHub. I was wondering whether you (or anyone else) plan to bring v5.42 to the next OpenBSD release 7.8?
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10:45 < kuzdra> ivdsangen: yeah, that's possible. Personally, Python, Perl, Ruby, possibly PHP -- all fall into the same category, so it's harder and less useful to learn another from the bunch. Unless it's required for a project, job, or due to some specific existing artifacts (e.g. AI/ML for Python or Rails for Ruby).
10:46 < sonya> used python for one-liners and still prefer python2 for this kind of work..
10:46 < ivdsangen> kuzdra: good point, i also quickly reach out to a language i know instead of learning yet another language
10:48 < ivdsangen> sonya: why do you prefer python2? (instead of python3)
10:49 < sonya> speed and guess i get used to it
10:53 < sonya> ivdsangen, and here's an example of similar task (decode url)  - https://termbin.com/fci6  -  python2 wins, imho
10:56 < ivdsangen> ah, you meant faster to write instead of faster in execution i guess
10:57 < sonya> both
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11:14 < vortexx> https://www.openssh.com/pq.html from the undeadly article of the day
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13:06 < echelon> mischief: i wasn't aware of platformio... but i was able to install esphome seemingly just fine $ esphome version
13:06 < echelon> Version: 2025.7.5
13:11 < echelon> mischief: this is everything esphome installed https://pastee.dev/r/fkwXTQdd
13:11 < echelon> and platformio seems to be installed as well
13:11 < echelon> haven't verified yet if it works
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13:19 < mischief> esphome *depends on* platformio to work
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13:21 < echelon> mischief: right.. so you're saying platformio has additional runtime dependencies?
13:27 < sibiria> platformio is ginormous
13:28 < mischief> echelon: of course, it needs a toolchain for the target
13:28 < mischief> the firmware it builds doesn't come out of thin air.. :-)
13:28 < echelon> well, the question now is, now that it's installed, how do i verify that it works?
13:29 < echelon> i assumed i would just be providing a configuration file to esphome, a prebuilt firmware from the vendor was already flashed on the target device
13:29 < mischief> no.
13:30 < echelon> what am i missing
13:30 < mischief> there is no 'prebuilt firmware from the vendor'
13:30 < mischief> esphome is a code generator for platformio
13:30 < echelon> oh ok
13:31 < echelon> and it generates a fw?
13:32 < mischief> possibly, after going through platformio
13:34 < mischief> oh also you need home assistant to do anything useful with esphome anyway, which is also basically only linux
13:35 < echelon> i installed openhab which is in openbsd ports, and it has an esphome add-on
13:36 < mischief> oh nice
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13:41 < echelon> i just used this web-flasher to install the esphome fw on my target device https://ratgdo.github.io/esphome-ratgdo/
13:42 < echelon> so maybe the procedure for producing the fw is device-dependent
13:49 < mischief> those are prebuilt binaries for firmware produced from esphome+platformio
13:49 < echelon> gotcha
13:49 < mischief> the esphome configurations are in https://github.com/ratgdo/esphome-ratgdo/tree/main/static
13:50 < mischief> example https://github.com/ratgdo/esphome-ratgdo/blob/main/static/v25iboard.yaml
13:51 < echelon> ok, so i don't actually need it then. so how do i just run the esphome web server?
13:52 < mischief> `esphome dashboard` command? or you mean something else
13:55 < echelon> unsure, it seems to want a configuration
13:55 < echelon> i'll just have to do more digging, thanks for the clarification
13:57 < mischief> yes, the configuration is what i linked above (which is normally used to produce a firmware binary via the target's toolchain)
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13:59 < echelon> well, i don't need the fw, i already have the device configured to connect to my wifi.
14:01 < mischief> then what exactly do you need esphome for
14:02 < echelon> to have openhab talk to it
14:03 < mischief> esphome is for generating firmware (from yaml files) using platformio as the underlying build system
14:03 < echelon> so based on what you're saying, i can just skip to step 5 https://github.com/seime/openhab-esphome?tab=readme-ov-file#getting-started-for-non-esphome-users
14:03 < mischief> if you already have a firmware binary that works for you, and dont want to make new firmware, you dont need it
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14:04 < mischief> echelon: possibly, never used openhab.
14:04 < echelon> kk
14:06 < mischief> i think in most use cases each type of device has different bespoke configs, and usually has per-device encryption keys, so you have to build something for each device
14:06 < echelon> well, the original problem i was trying to solve was openhab forcing me to set an encryptionkey on the device, which the prebuilt fw doesn't set, maybe i will have to go to through the whole process
14:06 < mischief> but good luck doing that on openbsd, since you need to come up with how to get a toolchain
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15:21 < afresh1> kuzdra: I am making progress on perl 5.42, not sure I will make 7.8 though.  https://github.com/afresh1/OpenBSD-perl/tree/perl-5.42
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15:25 < byteskeptical> afresh1: we believe in you either way mate
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16:05 < kuzdra> afresh1: any difficulties? need help?
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16:27 < afresh1> kuzdra: just work and life getting in the way.  I was just to the step of building a release with the new perl and my sparc64 ldom doesn't seem to have enough memory assigned to be able to build llvm.
16:29 < afresh1> that branch is current though, if you want to try it out.
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17:23 < kuzdra> afresh1: I've recently successfully built and smoked vanilla perl-5.43.1 on amd64-current to check any issues with that opaque FILE change. I haven't looked into your custom patches yet, I can give it try. (I got a boring amd64 box only, though)
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17:31 < afresh1> kuzdra: Give it a try.  I'll be testing shared module updates and such once I get a release built, but more folks looking at it is nice.
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18:36 < Reinhilde> you smoked perl? that sounds unpleasant
18:36 < Reinhilde> how do you smoke code? or is it the smoke TEST
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18:38 < oldlaptop> presumably the procedure involves a printer and carefully-selected paper stock
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19:11 < kuzdra> Reinhilde: read again: I smoked vanilla q-:
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19:31 < basher> hi
19:33 < basher> trying to "make" psybnc on an openbsd server, I get this error, although the admin of the server says the library is installed
19:35 < basher> DNS Library (c-ares): Not available.
19:35 < basher>  We're running OpenBSD 7.6
19:35 < basher> make c-ares
19:35 < basher> The c-ares library has been built successfully. You can now compile psyBNC.
19:36 < basher> when i use make it says DNS Library (c-ares): Not available.
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19:40 < fro> https://wiki.ircnow.org/index.php?n=Psybnc.Install?from=Openbsd.Psybnc
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19:52 < basher> on their server does not work :( fro
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19:59 < fro> yeah same note at the bottom
19:59 < fro> something that changed from 2.3 to 2.4 i'd guess
20:00 < fro> anyhow i'd consider using something less outdated
20:00 < fro> i know that isn't what you asked for
20:00 < fro> but that's all i got
20:01 < Bradipo> Wow, wiki.ircnow.org took a long time to load.
20:02 < mischief> probably ai scraping it xD
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20:03 < Bradipo> My websites must be too boring for "AI" to scrape.
20:04 < Bradipo> Or they just honor the robots.txt.
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20:11 < basher> Bradipo what's your websites?
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20:28 < mrbubzie> On the macppc port if an application does not have a precompiled binary can we use ports to attempt or if it’s not there it means it’s broken on that platform precompiled binary wise
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20:31 < mrbubzie> Sorry that was meant to be a question lol
20:34 < cgnarne> look for ONLY_FOR_ARCHS in the ports tree for example
20:36 < mrbubzie> That’s the issue it’s listed supported(xfce) but there are no precompiled binaries so I wasn’t sure if that meant it was broken on that particular platform
20:37 < cgnarne> that's another possibility, yes
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20:38 < mrbubzie> Damn ok
20:38 < cgnarne> there's one sure way to find out...
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20:40 < mrbubzie> In older releases there we precompiled so I’m gunna assume something broke
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22:07 < quinq> à/12
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22:13 < kuzdra> error: à/12: unexpected à
22:15 < sibiria> uncaught à exception error
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