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10:31 < adig> I'm considering upgrading to 7.7, the guide says Check available disk space in /usr. Verify that the /usr partition has a size of at least 1.1G.
10:32 < adig> I have 622M free.
10:32 < adig> Wonder I could free up some space, but it's a little bit dangerous becasue it's /usr I guess.
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10:33 < adig> usr/share/relink/kernel/GENERIC.MP takes a lot of space, like 700MB, newbsd.gdb takes up 184 M
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10:35 < adig> Oh, nvm!
10:35 < adig> It says "size"!
10:35 < adig> Not free space.
10:36 < quinq> wait
10:36 < andrath> sysupgrade won't work?
10:36 < adig> Yeah, that would work.
10:36 < quinq> I think it really says 1G free
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10:36 < adig> Verify that the /usr partition has a size of at least 1.1G.
10:36 < quinq> I was bitten by that on a couple machines...
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10:37 < quinq> You risk breaking your machine
10:37 < adig> Yes, I'm aware of that, that's why I asked.
10:38 < quinq> Hence my answer
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10:48 < sibiria> 1.1g for /usr is not enough for the base system
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10:49 < sibiria> it wants about 1.6g today with the all the object files in place for relinkin
10:49 < sibiria> relinking*
10:58 < sibiria> i always put X11 in /usr instead of on a file system of its own, which ends up at an even 2g footprint for everything, and i make /usr out to 2.5g to give it headroom
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10:59 < sibiria> feels like it's gonna need another 500mb by the time 8.0 happens
10:59 < quinq> Yeah
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11:00 < quinq> I hope 2026 will be the year of the OpenBSD file-system
11:00 < tommyrot> at least we will be able to boot from a floppy
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11:02 < adig> My /usr _size_ is 2.5G
11:02 < adig> But not free space.
11:02 < sibiria> so go have a look-see to find what old crud is hiding there
11:03 < sibiria> object files for relinking on 7.7 amd64 totals about 1g
11:03 < sibiria> if you have more than that in /usr/share then there's stuff you can get rid of
11:05 < adig> Yeah, a lot of stuff is in /usr/share
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11:06 < sibiria> i get the feeling you have a forgotten object file tar-ball in /usr/share/relink
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11:06 < adig> I have a huge newbsd.gdb file.
11:07 < sibiria> that's normal
11:07 < sibiria> you can remove it for now if you want
11:07 < sibiria> it's created anew as part of relinking
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11:10 < sibiria> this is roughly what the base system's /usr should look like, whether X11R6 in /usr or on its own file system: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/dc461819
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11:11 < sibiria> as a reference, if it helps you spot where you may have penned-up old files
11:12 < adig> Ok, I ran sysupgrade as it was.
11:12 < adig> Worked fine!
11:13 < adig> Is it just me or they're downloading firmware files when you do sysupdate now.
11:13 < adig> I remeber wifi not working after each update befor.
11:13 < adig> I had to connect via cable to get updated firmware.
11:13 < adig> Now wifi worked after upgade.
11:14 < sibiria> sysupgrade will download new firmware
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11:15 < adig> Was it always like this?
11:15 < sibiria> i cannot recall
11:15 < adig> Thanks for the paste, but _seems_ it was partition size not free space.
11:16 < adig> It worked in my case with only 600M free space on /usr
11:17 < oldlaptop> fw_update runs under bsd.rd these days, not just after install on first boot
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11:26 < zelest> It also runs on sysupgrade
11:26 < zelest> Ah, note to self, read backlog :D
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11:30 < adig> Yeah but I think before it Didn't.
11:31 < adig> It ran AFTER the upgrade.
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11:31 < adig> So I was left without wifi firmware.
11:31 < adig> After each sysupgrade.
11:31 < adig> But now, wi-fi worked.
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12:34 < dzwdz> how can i control the nexthop ip sent to ebgp peers with bgpd?
12:35 < dzwdz> right now it's sending the link-local ip i've set on the interface (which is only there because i've had issues with unnumbered interfaces) - the peer *doesn't* have a route to that address, but they have a route to my public ip
12:36 < dzwdz> which i would prefer to be the nexthop
12:36 < dzwdz> "set nexthop $publicip" seems to set that nexthop on routes received from that peer, rather than sent to them
12:37 < dzwdz> "match to ebgp inet set { nexthop $publicip }" doesn't seem to work either, idk why
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14:20 < mrbubzie> Anyone know if webkitgtk builds on the PowerPC port?
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14:28 < andrath> there's no package?
14:28 < mrbubzie> No
14:29 < mrbubzie> There is in ports
14:29 < andrath> check the makefile if ppc is excluded as an arch, otherwise I couldn't say
14:30 < andrath> other than give it a go. It's a big piece of software though, might take a bit to build
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15:14 < mischief> on my linux box with a 7950x it took a fair while 2025-08-11T17:31:13 >>> net-libs/webkit-gtk: 1:19:03
15:19 < andrath> oh, if folks want to try qtile on OpenBSD, I made some ports (they're already submitted to ports@ and openbsd-wip): https://github.com/ekollof/openbsd-ports/tree/master/x11
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17:09 < trucy> Hi, my current layout looks like this: https://privatebin.net/?898618fde9e0e6fa#EW6CcEng3GkE8gHxidBsPKZN88vrtgvwjgvbqzX3BsgV . I would like more space on /usr/local. Is it safe to remove the /usr/{src,obj} ? Can I growfs the /usr/local partition despite the i partition (which I can't find if it's important or not)
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17:27 < lts> Your i: is very likely the ESP partition, and required for UEFI boot
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17:52 < trucy> ah, so messing with it would do no good. I'm realising that the i partition isn't actually after the h partition though? Please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't partitions ordered in order of offset?
17:58 < ivdsangen> the scheme is more flexible, for instance my 'a' partition has a higher offset than my 'b' partition
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18:14 < trucy> So does it mean that on lisk, sequencially, your a partition is after your b one?
18:15 < ivdsangen> yes, i think the offsets and sizes tell how it is on disk
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22:06 < aaronm04> So for the side channel attacks discovered in the past few years (spectre, meltdown, etc) do they all require the malicious software to have access to precise time?
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22:06 < aaronm04> Or multiple threads?
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22:27 < fro> first one is a no
22:28 < fro> not all side channel attacks are timing attacks
22:30 < fro> also a no for multiple threads
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