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01:52 < iio7> When I get the following in the log for Unbound (many times): "notice: sendto failed: Resource temporarily unavailable" and in the next line "notice: remote address is 192.168.1.23 port 41119", then what is the problem here? I get this for several local machines on the network.
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03:25 < thrig> maybe you're running out of ports?
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08:58 < andrath> Have any of you noticed that yubikeys (those black things with the gold fingerprint surface) don't work anymore with the latest snapshot?
08:58 < andrath> already sent a sendbug to bugs@ btw
09:01 < renaud> what do you mean by don't work anymore? You mean, they don't show up as a keyboard or you can't program them?
09:01 < quinq> They just stopped working, they're lazy and went to the beach instead
09:02 < andrath> you press the gold thingy, and nothing happens. Usually you get a stream of characters that get typed via the uhidev 
09:03 < IcePic> it got disabled 
09:03 < IcePic> too many of the yubikeys (especially the smallest ones) involuntarily vomit those ccccsfjskhfk everywhere when you touch your laptop
09:04 < andrath> any way to enable them again? I kinda need those things for silly things like work
09:04 < andrath> is there a sysctl I can set or something?
09:04 < renaud> https://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/20c016d6c26bcaa32fb10f6a5b4385ece38091ea
09:05 < IcePic> I think if you follow snapshots, you might want to subscribe to tech@ and/or source-changes (cvs) to pick up behaviour changes
09:05 < quinq> :(
09:05 < andrath> I didn't see that one (I am subscribed to src-changes)
09:07 < renaud> hmm, I will have to disable login via yubikey on my servers before 7.8
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09:12 < renaud> hmm, I can't "pip install frida" on 7.7
09:12 < renaud> very useful error message: "/bin/sh: /bin/sh: - : unknown option"
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09:17 < sibiria> pip sucks. python sucks. there, someone had to say it
09:18 < surrounder> sibiria++
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09:18 < sibiria> invoke it in a venv and see what happens?
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09:19 < renaud> that's in a venv
09:20 < sibiria> regular activated venv?
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09:20 < renaud> yes
09:20 < sibiria> hm, weird. this just reinforces my fury towards python
09:21 < renaud> I think this time, it's more frida the culprit
09:21 < renaud> I am trying to compile by hand
09:22 < renaud> and you have stuff like: Unable to download toolchain: missing bundle at https://build.frida.re/deps/20250801/toolchain-openbsd-x86_64.tar.xz
09:22 < renaud> and if you say to compile toochains and sdk: subprojects/frida-core/meson.build:1:0: ERROR: Could not execute Vala compiler: valac
09:24 < Foxy_> sibiria: use uv => https://github.com/astral-sh/uv
09:24 < Foxy_> available in ports, ported by me :)
09:24 < renaud> lol, I installed vala, and: Frida currently relies on features not yet upstream. Grab the Frida-optimized
09:24 < sibiria> uv is pretty neat, yeah. but how does that solve python? :)
09:25 < Foxy_> sibiria: PEBKAC ;)
09:25 < sibiria> no, clearly guido's fault. all of it
09:25 < sibiria> slow, clunky, context snowflakey
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09:29 < sibiria> gotta put uv on my list of things to dig deeper in. i don't use python privately, only at work, but we're kinda knee-deep in the pip/virtualenv swamp and every so often it ends up in some grievances
09:38 < renaud> even worse: subprojects/frida-gum/meson.build:125:2: ERROR: Problem encountered: Unsupported OS family: openbsd
09:38 < sibiria> that's just offensive
09:41 < renaud> even more seeing that gum is a Cross-platform instrumentation and introspection library written in C
09:42 < renaud> they should probably just remove the cross-platform wording
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09:58 < renaud> lol: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'undetected_chromedriver'
09:58 < renaud> who has named a module like this
10:00 < sibiria> author: Xi Jinping
10:02 < renaud> :D
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17:20 < Bradipo> polloi
17:21 < loganaden> is stuart around ?
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18:20 < trucy> huh, my system froze after I quit my xsession. What is the standard way to get whatever went wrong?
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18:37 < thrig> methods include having another computer you can ssh into the system from, etc
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18:51 < Bradipo> trucy: All depends on what went wrong.
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18:54 < bountyht> I think part of the goal is to learn what did go wrong. The ssh advice is sound unless it is a total freeze and the machine responds no more
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18:55 < Bradipo> I have an ancient Toshiba laptop running i386.  If I don't switch VT consoles to say VT1 and then back to VT5 (where xenodm runs) *before* I logout, the display freezes.
18:56 < Bradipo> At that point all I can do is press the power button and wait for a safe shutdown.
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18:57 < trucy> Ah, right, if it’s a total freeze the system won’t even dump something. I’ll try to investigate (best case it doesn’t happen again!)
18:58 < Bradipo> Did you try switching VT console?
18:58 < trucy> Do you mean ctrl+alt+F[1-4]? If so, yes, nothing
18:58 < trucy> That was my first reflex, in case it was just an X problem
18:58 < Bradipo> Yes, ctrl-alt-F[1-4].
18:59 < Bradipo> Does it respond to a power button press?
18:59 < Bradipo> You could try SSH if you have another PC on the same network.
18:59 < trucy> Nope, I had to hard reset. Yeah next time I’ll try to SSH, it’s definitely worth a try!
19:00 < Bradipo> Well, if you have to hard reset, it's unlikely that SSH will work.
19:00 < Bradipo> Unless you've disable ACPI or some other mechanism for power button working.
19:01 < trucy> Not to my knowledge
19:04 < thrig> also ping to see if a bit of the kernel is at least still running
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