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01:52 < halian> sibiria: that's ableist
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02:04 < MelMalik> halian, the openBSD community is thus.
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02:04 < halian> MelMalik: ugh :(
02:06 < MelMalik> yea
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03:29 < ssm_> Halian: submitting your messages in only one language is !english-ist
03:37 < Halian> ssm_: :|
03:43 < ssm_> well you went from :( to :| so I guess that's progress. invoking off-topic moral superiority in a tech support channel probably isn't an effective tactic to convince your opponents of anything and largely only validates your detractors, as we've seen with certain now [political badwords] that start with w and the accursed sjw label. if you see chud a more useful tactic is to shoot them. try 
03:43 < ssm_> games/cataclysm-dda
03:46 < thrig> :( :| :D :M (assuming qwerty and wraparound)
03:46 < Halian> ssm_: neither are ableist slurs on-topic in a tech support channel
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08:42 < uzuri> good morning guys, does anyone here know a good way to remap keys on the keyboard in pure TTY? (no x server running)
08:42 < uzuri> i read the faq's and man pages about wsconsctl, but it only lets you remap one key to another, but not switch them
08:43 < kuzdra> I was just about to suggest wsconsctl and wskbd.
08:44 < kuzdra> It allows swapping LCtrl and CapsLock though.
08:45 < uzuri> eg. when i want to switch esc and caps, it works without problems to map the button esc to caps, but then when i map caps to esc, it throws me an error that caps cant be found
08:45 < uzuri> how does it allow it?
08:46 < uzuri> i could only figure out how to make duplicates of buttons, but now switch them
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08:46 < uzuri> also tried putting the commands in /etc/wsconctl.conf and reboot but still same errors
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10:08 < sibiria> Halian: why? you're not forced to use vi. nobody is. you're an adult, you can pick any editor you want
10:08 < sibiria> in fact, pick two
10:09 < sibiria> "live a little"
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10:34 < sonya> uzuri, # wsconsctl keyboard.map  --> shows current mappings
10:35 < sonya> try to modify as (example) # wsconsctl keyboard.map+="keycode NUMBER=KEY"
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10:36 < uzuri> thanks sonya ill give that a try
10:36 < uzuri> where is this documented?
10:37 < sonya> $ man 8 wsconsctl (as examples in the bottom)
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10:39 < uzuri> wait but for keys they use "keysym" and for the modes they use "keycode"
10:39 < uzuri> thats why i used keysym
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10:48 < sonya> uzuri, sorry, may be i got smth wrong, but here's a little complication between kbd(8) and wsconsctl(8).. in general, each keyboard key for wscons(ctl) has a $NUMBER, which correspond to some KEY.. as i got, all you need is to assign proper $NUMBER to KEY.. and here we are..
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10:56 < sonya> uzuri_, # wsconsctl keyboard.map | grep -i mode  --> this will show which key assigned for a "Mode_Lock" (if you loaded proper font, assigned it as a default and reloaded required tty with it), or localization.. and it's not like map Caps_Lock to ESQ..
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10:59 < trucy> speaking of wsconsctl, is there a way to bind a key combo to a key? in my example (on a surface go 2), i'd like to map super+f9 to insert
11:01 < trucy> didn't find anything in the wsksymdef.h file about this…
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11:11 < sonya> trucy, i'm afraid that /usr/include/dev/wscons/wsksymdef.h is a best bet and the last stop for now..
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11:26 < trucy> argh, next solution is probably to find a program that emulates that input, which I can summon from a binding…
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