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01:21 < l0rd_hex> hi e-pals, is there a way to measure the impact of a veb or bridge on system performance? I'm assuming thats part of the sys% in top
01:23 < l0rd_hex> my current measurement solution is to leave a wheel of cheese on top of the server when it's running veb/bridge and when it's not, I then use crackers(4) to eat the cheese and make qualitative analysis but my boss is wants quantitative analysis and to reduce the cheese budget
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01:26 < dooder> Depends a lot on the type of cheese 
01:27 < l0rd_hex> dooder: it's from the same cow
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01:27 < dooder> Ah so internally consistent 
01:29 < l0rd_hex> we even clone the bacteria used in fermenting the cheese 
01:31 < l0rd_hex> I told my boss that he is seeking to reduce the cheese budget _sharply_ like a cheddar but he just sighed, went back to his office, punched a hole in the ceiling and fished out a bottle of whiskey
01:31 < Bradipo> Punching holes is how you make swiss cheese.
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01:32 < l0rd_hex> Bradipo: if he wasn't yelling at his Ethernet cable, asking the "bfackets to go-go"  I'd tell him
01:33 < l0rd_hex> brb, another polar bear wandered into our data igloo
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02:53 < apollyon> Hi, So I setup relayd as a front end proxy for my nginx backend on a different server I setup match request header set "X-Forwarded-For" value "$REMOTE_ADDR" match request header set "X-Forwarded-Port" value "$REMOTE_PORT and matched it on nginx and some IPs show properly in my nginx but some show the relayd server how can I narrow down this issue
02:53 < apollyon> and resolve it?>
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08:23 < Posterdati> hi
08:24 < Posterdati> please help, is anyone using raspberry pi 3b+ with openbsd 7.7? I need to enable the spi device on it! ANy help? Thanks!
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08:48 < IcePic> Posterdati: does the dmesg mention the spi?
08:49 < Posterdati> IcePic: ies
08:49 < Posterdati> IcePic: yes
08:50 < Posterdati> "spi" at simplebus0 not configured
08:52 < IcePic> that means there is no driver that attaches to it, but it was found in the device-tree as a possible device to have a driver for
08:52 < Posterdati> yes
08:52 < Posterdati> overlays are missing, added now
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09:10 < Posterdati> IcePic: same error
09:12 < IcePic> yes, the DTBs list where stuff exist in the memory map, but you still need a driver that attaches to it
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09:41 < IcePic> Just Add Code(tm)
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10:30 < vortexx> as usual, if not configured, unless it needs firmware, it's unlikely to work without you or someone else writing the driver
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11:29 < jfsimon> Hi good morning
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16:13 < passstab> Should I install chromium to use zoom on OpenBSD, or will it work on Firefox if I enable webrtc?
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16:29 < passstab> I'm having trouble finding a guide that is up to date. Does it not work at all?
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16:41 < byteskeptical> I use it on firefox pretty regularly but it should work on both
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16:42 < byteskeptical> think it requires webrtc on both as well
16:44 < passstab> byteskeptical How do you get to the web link on firefox?
16:45 < passstab> All the meeting link lets me do is download the app. I don't see a link to join from browser.
16:46 < passstab> Is switching user-agent useful?
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17:02 < Bradipo> passstab: I use zoom from Firefox.
17:02 < Bradipo> I didn't have to jigger with user-agent either.
17:02 < Bradipo> When I start a meeting, I get an option to "download" or to "join from browser".
17:02 < Bradipo> I click on the latter and the meeting works.
17:04 < passstab> I just get "Click Open link on the dialog shown by your browser
17:04 < passstab> If you don’t see a dialog, click Join from Zoom Workplace app below"
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17:05 < Bradipo> Are you joining as host?
17:05 < Bradipo> Or guest?
17:05 < passstab> guest
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17:08 < passstab> I can PM the link if that would help, but it is of the form https://us02web.zoom.us/j/{meetingID}
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17:12 < Bradipo> passstab: So you're using a meeting room with a passcode?
17:12 < passstab> no
17:12 < passstab> Bradipo
17:13 < passstab> I don't think so? I think just the link should work.
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17:13 < Bradipo> Ok, so you're using the link that has an embedded credential.
17:13 < Bradipo> e.g. it will have a query parameter of pwd=randomstuff ?
17:14 < passstab> I don't see that.
17:14 < Bradipo> Interesting.
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17:16 < byteskeptical> passstab: based on the host options they can disable browser sessions I believe
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17:18 < passstab> Bradipo Backing up to stupid questions I may have gotten wrong, I just needed to run sysctl kern.audio.record=1 and sysctl kern.video.record=1, right?
17:20 < passstab> byteskeptical that is probably it. Would that disable chromeos?
17:20 < Bradipo> passstab: You need to have the sysctl enabled to allow the browser to show things, but that wouldn't prevent you from joining the meeting.
17:21 < Bradipo> Nor would it change the dialog when you connect.
17:21 < Bradipo> It would just make it so nobody could see or hear you.
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17:21 < Bradipo> I don't see any options for blocking clients who are using web only.
17:21 < Bradipo> But maybe that's not something available to freeloaders.
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17:23 < Bradipo> passstab: Oh my, Zoom sucks.
17:23 < Bradipo> They recently changed their site apparently.
17:23 < Bradipo> This was working for me just in the last month, but you're right, now when I try to join as guest there is no option to join from the browser.
17:27 < passstab> Oh, I needed a zoom account to join from browser...
17:27 < passstab> Sorry everyone.
17:27 < passstab> The tab crashed a couple times, but it seems to work now.
17:28 < Bradipo> No you don't necessarily.
17:28 < Bradipo> Apparently if you nave End-to-End encryption enabled, you don't get to join from browser as guest.
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17:31 < Bradipo> If I disable E2E then the link to join from browser is restored to guests.
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17:39 < passstab> Is there anything I should do to minimize the page crashes?
17:42 < sonya> create a new profile, probably.. and $ less /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/firefox ..
17:44 < Bradipo> I haven't noticed page crashes with zoom.
17:44 < Bradipo> But it might have something to do with resources.
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18:06 < thrig> I like big pages (the prior statement is a lie)
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18:10 < IcePic> thrig: octeons will make you happy, there is 16k pages on those
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18:13 < thrig> ... why is w3m chugging on megabytes ... oh, there's a bespoke web font
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18:15 < Bradipo> w3m uses web fonts?
18:16 < thrig> no, but the webfont is sometimes included within the page itself, hence the megs to chugg on
18:17 < sibiria> sounds crazy to not woff2-ize fonts before publishing on the web. but then again people also use react and such so *shrug*
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18:18 < Bradipo> Oh, I see if the font is embedded in the HTML... wow.
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18:18 < thrig> I only noticed because w3m was chugging along and I'm like wtf is going on here
18:19 < thrig> hogfarm that is the modern web, etc
18:19 < Bradipo> How is it embedded?  Is there a <font> tag or something?
18:19 < thrig> "but sir! we're plunging into the outflow pond!" "excellent, activate the scram jets!"
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20:14 < trucy> I managed to install obsd on my old gaming laptop, which will serve as a testing home server
20:14 < trucy> got it 10 years ago, while I was still a student
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20:19 < Bradipo> Should be alright as long as you aren't using NVidia GPU.
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20:24 < oldlaptop> A server is probably going to be just fine if it has to run in vesa mode
20:26 < jonadab> Depending on what it's doing, but in most cases, yes.
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20:27 < Bradipo> Good point.  "home server" should be just fine.
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20:41 < ssm_> could just run it headless once its set up to save battery
20:44 < trucy> It has an nvidia gpu, but yeah I won't even run X on it. I can just ssh on it and config away :D
20:44 < trucy> I have an eeepc somewhere, I should try installing obsd on it
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21:12 < chaselp> Hallo. Is anyone familiar with xfce, error setting background image, I get "Unable to load images from folder (null)"
21:13 < chaselp> this is with the default background path, changing to a path in my home, etc., I've been unable to see any way to set the background path. Other WMs allow me to set/change the background.
21:15 < chaselp> I used either FreeBSD or OpenBSD for a while a while back, decided to come back to BSD on this computer and put OpenBSD on it. 
21:15 < Bradipo> You can set the "background" with xsetroot or even xv -root
21:18 < Bradipo> I gave up on xfce.  It got too resource heavy.
21:20 < chaselp> I get bad bitmap format file with xsetroot -bitmap $imgs/wallpaper.jpg
21:20 < chaselp> I see xsetroot uses bitmap, I am trying to open each of the images I have with bitmap to see if one works
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21:23 < chaselp> I tried a couple other WMs briefly to check if I could change the backgrounds, I may end up dropping xfce
21:23 < Bradipo> You don't need a WM to change backgrounds.
21:23 < fart_cat> I use nitrogen to set background
21:24 < Bradipo> There are numerous tools that will write images to the root of X.
21:24 < deimosBSD> I use xfce4 and change backgrounds with abandon
21:25 < chaselp> ok
21:26 < deimosBSD> do you want one static image or the xfce4 extra that changes backgrounds on a timer?
21:26 < chaselp> I wanted to have the timer
21:26 < deimosBSD> ahh, that i don't do
21:27 < chaselp> if it were something I could do with a command, I could put it in a script. I already run a script to monitor my net connectivity and could put it in there
21:28 < Bradipo> You can do a timer easily enough in a cronjob.
21:29 < Bradipo> Or even in a background loop.
21:29 < Bradipo> xv will do that all for you.
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21:32 < thrig> but but desktop bloat
21:32 < Bradipo> Put this in your .xsession for example: xv -root -maxpect -random -rmode 5 -wait 60 -wloop backgrounds/*.jpg &
21:32 < chaselp> :)
21:33 < Bradipo> You may also want to set the background color in the event that your image doesn't fill completely with -rgb <color>
21:33 < chaselp> I think xv looks good
21:33 < Bradipo> xv is old, super old, but it works.
21:33 < chaselp> vim is my IDE
21:34 < Bradipo> vi(1) is my IDE. :-)
21:34 < Bradipo> vim is too weird.
21:34 < thrig> vi, and unix, or what passes for it these days
21:34 < chaselp> I forget what vi didn't have that I use, I have a small vim config and it's perfect for me
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21:35 < Bradipo> I know what vim doesn't have... proper (u)ndo support. :-)
21:35 < thrig> I had an increasingly large .vimrc (mostly turning off redhatisms) then a custom compiled vim then vi
21:36 < Bradipo> Haha, I did use vim for a time back when I used Linux more.  When I started using OpenBSD, I discovered that vi was sufficient.
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21:39 < chaselp> looking at a page that describes differences, I use multiple undo/redos sometimes, I like the color syntax. I think that may be the biggest
21:40 < chaselp> I don't add plugins, I put 1 function in my vimrc to set noexpandtab if I open a file with tabs
21:40 < oldlaptop> <chaselp> Hallo. Is anyone familiar with xfce, error setting background image, I get "Unable to load images from folder (null)"
21:40 < oldlaptop> This sounds like an upstream bug.
21:41 < thrig> of course the vi is now also custom compiled, so the next step is probably ed
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21:41 < oldlaptop> vi (and its foul spawn) are bizzare experiments in "what if we took ed, a perfectly good line editor, and tried to turn it into a screen editor?"
21:42 < thrig> ex at least has filters, which are pretty spiffy
21:42 < oldlaptop> the result is something with all the bad attributes of both and the benefits of neither
21:42 < rtj> A wizards IDE would be scrolls?
21:42 < Bradipo> Doesn't vi inherit ex filters?
21:42 < chaselp> oldlaptop: ja, I figured so but maybe that there is a workaround. I think the xv may work
21:42 < chaselp> vim is #1
21:43 < rtj> I used xv with openbox many moons ago.
21:43 < Bradipo> xv isn't in base, but it does indeed work.
21:43 < Bradipo> xfce should be able to do background images...
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21:43 < Bradipo> I don't use it so I cannot offer much else but alternatives.
21:43 < Bradipo> I actually use wmsetbg from WindowMaker in some cases.
21:44 < rtj> I think I used feh in linux or something like that too.
21:44 < oldlaptop> If you're going to do the bloat, do all the bloat: use KDE.
21:44 < oldlaptop> you even get a pretty groovy text editor out of it (kate)
21:44 < rtj> I use vim.
21:45 < oldlaptop> (KDE has many more knobs per unit bloat than the obvious competitor, GNOME, and is therefore superior.)
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21:46 < rtj> It's wild how much banter text editors and wm can cause. 
21:46 < thrig> bike shedding
21:47 < oldlaptop> ed, mg, kate: all the editors anyone needs
21:47 < Bradipo> What about sam?
21:47 < oldlaptop> Obviously. As a matter of objectively correct opinion.
21:47 < thrig> surface to air missiles don't see of much use?
21:47 < oldlaptop> I thought sam ran on this weird thing that isn't Unix 
21:48 < rtj> ;/ <3
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21:49 < emmanuelux> vscode
21:49 < chaselp> lol
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22:54 < humm> oldlaptop: sam originally was a Unix text editor, it was then ported to Plan 9 and today exists both as decendants from the Plan 9 and the Unix versions
22:55 < humm> plan9/sam for the Unix version, plan9/plan9port for the Plan 9 version
22:55  * oldlaptop was not being entirely serious
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23:17 < chaselp> It was xfdesktop keeping the background images from displaying for some reason
23:18 < chaselp> I don't use a "desktop" anyway, so I kill it. I ended up using feh, which is working great. I setup a cronjob for it.
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23:21 < oldlaptop> you might be further ahead not using something like xfce, if that's the kind of cobbling-together you want to do
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23:21 < oldlaptop> (there are stand-alone options for things like window managers and panels laying around)
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23:22 < chaselp> yeah, I need to get a better setup eventually, but I don't want to spend a lot of time on it at the moment..there are other things I'm supposed to be doing :)
23:24 < oldlaptop> like choosing the right fonts and background images and accent colors... :P
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23:26 < oldlaptop> (just kidding, everyone knows the right fonts are the DejaVu series, with full hinting by freetype's v35 - NOT v40! - engine)
23:27 < chaselp> I use monospace for all font options, I use Cruxish, and a combination of Adwaita-dark and HighContrast
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23:29 < ssm_> oldlaptop: hi-dpi means I don't need hinting, I miss my x11 classic apps though...
23:29 < oldlaptop> DejaVu Sans Mono at 9pt rendered by Freetype with the v35 engine is the only acceptable monospace font.
23:30 < thrig> monofur best font
23:30 < ssm_> I've been using profont for several months
23:30 < oldlaptop> (The xterm default - no I will not look up the xlfd, much less utter it here - is also somewhat tolerable)
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23:32 < ssm_> fixed?
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23:33 < oldlaptop> Yes, but as a bitmap font the different sizes are all different fonts
23:33 < oldlaptop> (maybe that really is the exact xlfd it uses, that or fixed----- or some such silliness)
23:34 < ssm_> `$ xlsfonts | grep fixed | wc -l`  103
23:34  * oldlaptop prefers to pretend the dark seedy underworld of Real X Fonts doesn't exist
23:35 < byteskeptical> oldlaptop: amen
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