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03:54 < LibreBSD> Hey guys, do yinz know how to get the spell-checker working on HexChat on OpenBSD? 
03:54 < LibreBSD> I have aspell and hunspell installed. 
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05:51 < vortexx> https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250912124932
05:52 < vortexx> BSDCan vids have landed
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15:30 < LibreBSD> Does anybody know a good IRC client for OpenBSD that has a spell-checker? 
15:30 < LibreBSD> Even something in the CLI. 
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15:38 < jmcunx> FWIW, Emacs has an IRC client and it has a spell checker :)
15:38 < ssm_> best I can do is a bad irc client that has a spell checker, because good irc clients probably don't have built in spell checkers
15:38 < jmcunx> outside of that, I know of no others
15:39 < LibreBSD> jmcunx, thanks for the help! 
15:39 < sibiria> unless i misremember, hexchat has one as well. certainly a neater option than emacs ;)
15:39 < sibiria> has a spell checker, that is
15:40 < LibreBSD> sibiria, hexchat has one, but it's a pain to setup. 
15:40 < LibreBSD> I guess I'll try to get it working. 
15:41 < sibiria> maybe irssi has a spell checker module somewhere? that could be another option
15:41 < sibiria> tons of third-party stuff around for irssi
15:41 < ssm_> hexchat is discontinued, which probably doesn't matter since it's mature software for a simple protocol, but make of that what you will
15:41 < sibiria> it's indeed discontinued. so far no known exploits!
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15:43 < ssm_> only 2 remote holes in a heck of a long time
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15:46 < mischief> there are two weechat scripts published on the site for spell checking
15:46 < mischief> (hello from weechat)
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15:52 < LibreBSD> mischief, yeah... I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and switch to weechat.
15:54 < mischief> i used irssi for a long time.. though i've now been on weechat for a long time too. can't even remember when i switched
15:54 < ssm_> weechat sucks! good luck!
15:55 < mischief> ssm_: https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/2025/05/works-on-my-machine-v2-2025-jon-galloway-2-1.png
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16:06 < ssm_> decided to try x11/alacritty for fun, 78M res on idle. that out of the way, maybe it'll run games/cataclysm-tlg better than base xterm
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16:22 < mischief> i'm on st these days, got tired of a weird below-baseline clipping bug in xterm i never figured out
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16:23 < ssm_> cataclysm was a bad test and I can't get either xterm or alacritty to run poorly even at relatively small glyph size
16:24 < ssm_> therefore xterm wins by not having an extremely nich usecase and 1/8th the memory usage
16:24 < ssm_> s/nich/&e/
16:25 < mischief> try the notcurses demo? :)
16:27 < ssm_> synthetic benchmarks are cheating :>. fullscreen terminal based roguelikes with colors is probably the one usecase I can think of for accelerated glyph rendering, and at least on my relatively new x86 hardware it's not a bottleneck on either terminal. maybe if you had really ancient crusty hardware it'd be a problem, but then I doubt your gpu would have the correct capabilities to use alacritty
16:28 < thrig> xterm is less efficient at rendering than urxvt, mostly visible if you're spraying escape sequences at a terminal instead of using curses or something
16:30 < mischief> curses does not simply spray escape sequences at the terminal? :-)
16:31 < mischief> a little while back i attempted a ghostty port for openbsd.. maybe i should resume that this weekend
16:37  * sonya switched to urxvt (with 256 colors) and st (suckless terminal), which could be as nice/ugly as you wish
16:38 < thrig> curses buffers and only sends a delta, as opposed to repainting the whole thing
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16:51 < sonya> actually hexchat in ports/packages seems not capable to spellcheck as no enchant listed as build dep and no hunspell dictionary could be installed later (may be ispell dic is ok, not checked)
16:53 < systemdsucks> zutty is in packages
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17:07 < sonya> systemdsucks, here's coredump instead of 'zutty' → https://termbin.com/d9i6
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17:12 < systemdsucks> sonya: sorry that computer is dead so I can't tell you how did I started it with my selection of font
17:12 < sonya> systemdsucks, here it (zutty) ignores -font completely
17:13 < sonya> No Regular variant of the requested font '-*-terminus-*-r-normal-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-u' could be identified.
17:14 < sonya> ^^ -r- .. why it's in packages, i wonder..
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20:41 < LibreBSD> I just switched to irssi
20:42 < fro> congrats
20:43 < LibreBSD> fro, My email, IRC, and signal, are all in the terminal now! 
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20:46 < eea> 1 terminal, not a collection of tmux windows?
20:46 < jtt> what do you use for signal?
20:47 < LibreBSD> jtt: "gurk", it's not perfect and I had to build it myself.
20:48 < LibreBSD> eea: I've never used tmux, I run DWM so the terminal windows tile nicely. 
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20:52 < jtt> I believe there have been multiple attempts to port gurk-rs but it seems that it was never imported
20:53 < jtt> iirc there were some usability issues
20:53 < jtt> is it running well for you? maybe its time to try again with a port
20:54 < LibreBSD> jtt: No... not really, it only works one way. 
20:54 < jtt> aha
20:54 < jtt> :/
20:55 < LibreBSD> I've just been using it to send files from my computer to my friends
20:55 < LibreBSD> Instead of copying the file to my phone then sending it. 
20:57 < jtt> so you can send but not receive?
20:58 < jtt> or what do you mean with one way?
20:58 < LibreBSD> jtt: Yep, I can receive only in messages to myself but from other people or group chats I get nothing. 
20:59 < LibreBSD> I can only send messages. 
21:00 < jtt> got it
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21:00 < LibreBSD> I would love to see a real working signal client on OpenBSD tho, telegram has one right? 
21:03 < jtt> yeah I think so
21:03 < jtt> tdesktop and tg
21:05 < jtt> you can use the official signal desktop app on openbsd through a vmm(4) linux guest and X11 forwarding
21:06 < jtt> https://anirudh.fi/signal-vmm
21:07 < ssm_> that will probably run terribly
21:07 < ssm_> I wouldn't using anything but a text-based client at worst
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21:07 < jtt> I haven't tried
21:08 < jtt> and probably won't
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21:08 < ssm_> x11 forwarding works well as a oneshot hack to get some gui app to do a thing in your vm but otherwise it can hardly run glxgears at an acceptable framerate on most hardware. I think the reason is that a lot of gl calls must be emulated through software for whatever reason
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21:09 < ssm_> not to mention vms under vmm(4) wont even use any sort of graphics driver so...
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21:10 < jtt> from the link above: "UI elements are slightly laggy but text input is fast enough."
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21:21 < ssm_> <text input is fast enough> dang must be a vte3 user
21:22 < ssm_> I get miffed at the input latency between st and xterm lol
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21:25 < glu> this might be portable https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli (ignoring dbus stuff)
21:26 < glu> sorry please disregard that
21:26 < glu> i was under the impression it was using jar from the android app somehow to talk to servers
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21:54 < eea> wait, is pci passthru really ready in vmm?
21:55 < eea> so i could like... pass an intel video card to a linux vm and xforward back to openbsd?
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22:00 < ssm_> no, we were just talking about normal ssh x11 passthrough which has been around forever
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23:20 < ssm_> moonlight-qt maybe works with vmm if you have a sunshine server running guest-side
23:20 < ssm_> I don't know the technical reasons why those should be faster than x11 forwarding though, since it's not like the guest has any gpu acceleration
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