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03:12 < xoddf2> Would this be faster under OpenBSD than an integrated Realtek RTL8168?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ESFF2JC
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03:22 < mischief> do you get 1Gbit/s with re(4)?
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03:29 < xoddf2> mischief: It gets roughly 200 or 300 Mbps vs over 480 or 490 under another OS.
03:31 < mischief> with what?
03:31 < mischief> also, dmesg
03:39 < xoddf2> mischief: I will when I have access to my OpenBSD drive.
03:40 < xoddf2> mischief: Fedora 42 (02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c))
03:41 < xoddf2> (Just for comparison)
03:59 < mischief> yes, i meant the full dmesg
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04:04 < xoddf2> mischief: https://xoddf.sdf.org/files/dmesg-blackbox.txt
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04:05 < xoddf2> re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x0c: RTL8168G/8111G (0x4c00), msi, address 44:37:e6:d9:6f:7a
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04:10 < xoddf2> Under Fedora: https://www.speedtest.net/result/18292817757.png  Under OpenBSD: https://www.speedtest.net/result/18292897574.png
04:11 < mischief> hm, the cpu is probably fast enough to push a gig
04:11 < mischief> have you done local testing without involving the internet, like iperf3
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04:15 < xoddf2> mischief: Not yet
04:16 < xoddf2> I have heard horror stories about Realtek NICs being inferior to Intel ones, hence my original question.
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04:26 < usagi_mimi> Hello again does anyone know why spell checking in firefox doesn't work?  I thought I fixed it by setting /usr/local/share/aspell in about:config and it worked for awhile. But now its stopped working again
04:26 < usagi_mimi> does it have something to do with pledge/unveil?
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04:55 < thrig> pledge violations tend to be logged, and tend to crash a process. unveil could be diagnosed with ktrace, though firefox being bloated will be difficult to trace
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05:16 < IcePic> xoddf2: there could be differences in how the OSes send ACKs back, since you seem to have a very async up vs down speed, so if fedora is better at acking more packets at the same time, it would prevent some resends or delays and hence see better values for DL
05:16 < IcePic> acks, congestion control info, receive buffer sizes and so on
05:17 < xoddf2> If my old ThinkPad X200 still worked, I would have tried it there.  It had an em(4) Ethernet port, but it was unreliable toward the end.
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06:01 < usagi_mimi> thrig: I'll check. It's so strange. It works fine sometimes then other times not at all. It can detect mispellings but it stops giving suggestions 
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06:17 < byteskeptical> usagi_mimi: sometimes the context menu needs to be checked on certain sites again, resource://gre/dictionaries/, also you mentioned spellchecker.dictionary but what is layout.spellcheckDefault set too?
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06:21 < byteskeptical> haven't used it in quite a while but the checker would not work as I typed, not sure if this is part of the behavior you're seeing
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07:01 < moviuro> Hi all, is there a way to hide some ENV variables in cron(8)'s email? I'm using some env vars to store some DynDNS keys but they end up being written in every single cron email. (X-Cron-Env: <MY_SUPER_SECRET_API_KEY=...>) The alternative would be to use those secrets as hardcoded strings in crontab(5) commands, but that doesn't sound right either
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07:10 < IcePic> moviuro: if the cronjob starts a script, it could unset those envs inside the script
07:11 < IcePic> but it sounds like you are exporting the env vars to all sessions for this user, which might be a larger problem in itself since you may leak them via other means too later on
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07:29 < moviuro> IcePic: just at the top of crontab(5) ATM. the affected cron line: curl -4s --user "$OVH_USER:$OVH_KEY" "https://www.ovh.com/nic/update?system=dyndns&hostname=${OVH_HOST}" | grep -v nochg . I could move the vars to that line: */5 * * * * OVH_...=... ... curl ...
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07:32 < IcePic> I think it should be in a script, often best to "hide" envs in them separately.
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12:42 < nwe> ps auxxwwwww
12:42 < nwe> ops!
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14:48 < rkta> I have trouble getting my internal mic to work. I read the multimedia FAQ, did the cat & audioctl stuff in the debugging section with the expected result. I can play audio with aucat, but recording does only give silence. Here is some output from sndioctl, dmesg, mixerctl and sysctl: http://rkta.de/pub/snd Maybe someone can spot anything or point my in the right direction.
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14:53 < Bradipo> I haven't had as much success with internal microphones for some reason.
14:53 < rkta> This is a T420, btw.
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15:24 < farter_cat> rkta https://rsadowski.de/posts/2024-01-14-openbsd-video-audio-screen-recording/
15:30 < shtrophic> I ordered a merch sweater for the release of 7.7. Hasn't arrived yet!
15:30 < shtrophic> Half a fucking year!
15:32 < sibiria> shows up with -stable
15:32 < sibiria> -release*
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15:33 < thrig> only four holes in the default sweater install!
15:33 < sonya> in a heck of a long time..
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15:36 < LibreBSD> Will LibreWolf ever be ported? 
15:38 < rkta> farter_cat: I know that post. Do I need to configure the Monitor Mix of all audio playback?
15:43 < farter_cat> I am not sure, I just did the sysctl, sniod like in the blog and it worked on my laptop
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16:01 < rkta> Does nothing here.
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16:10 < byteskeptical> LibreBSD: it has been multiple times in the past but the maintainers have always had a hard time keeping up with the pace of upstream especially when upstream has the same issue
16:14 < byteskeptical> which only further illustrates the amounts of work @landry puts in to the mozilla ports
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19:30 < uzuri> hello
19:31 < uzuri> can anyone recommend a good networking guide
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19:31 < uzuri> or course
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19:32 < TommyC> about..?
19:32 < uzuri> everything
19:32 < TommyC> Um...study for and take the CCNA?
19:33 < thrig> a Stevens wrote a book or two
19:34 < uzuri> i dont really care about certifications, but can you recomend good material for studying for it?
19:35 < uzuri> thrig: Unix Network Programming by W. Richard Stevens?
19:37 < uzuri> the book was released 35 years ago and is more focused on programming than networking in general
19:37 < thrig> maybe qualify that "everything", then
19:37 < uzuri> i know the basics but i still think i have a few gaps i need to fill
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19:39 < TommyC> Study for the CCNA, then...
19:39 < TommyC> There's plenty of books, YouTube videos, the whole hooplah.
19:41 < cgnarne> also depends on what you consider the basics
19:41 < TommyC> CCNA is pretty basic (imo).
19:42 < uzuri> TommyC: i might look into that more, is the stuff teached there of good quality or is it more like corpo slop
19:43 < TommyC> CCNA is mostly the basics of networking.
19:43 < TommyC> It's the higher certifications from Cisco that are more geared toward their products (imo).
19:43 < thrig> some still teach old things like Class A networks which went out of style about 30 years ago
19:44 < thrig> but some of that stuff you'll need to memorize if there's job interviews coming up
19:44 < uzuri> cgnarne: good question, i already got so far to replace my home modem+router with a custom machine running openbsd, and learing  PF always had me look up a bunch of stuff to understand it, but i think im learning things out of order this way and creating gaps
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19:45 < uzuri> TommyC: thanks for clarifying, i wouldnt wanna waste time learing cisco specific stuff
19:46 < cgnarne> learning by doing is the best way imo
19:46 < uzuri> thrig: oh, i dont work in this field at all, its all for personal gain
19:46 < TommyC> If you don't know say, the OSI model without having to look it up, or what a DMZ is or what services you should put in a DMZ, etc. then the CCNA is a good starting step.
19:47 < thrig> OSI only comes up on 1) job interviews 2) when groups are trying to avoid work by claiming to be a layer 3 group and the problem being a layer 4 issue
19:47 < uzuri> hahahahaha
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19:48 < uzuri> TommyC: i always found demilitarized zones confusing, even in real life
19:48 < uzuri> because often they are heavily militarized??
19:48 < TommyC> I'm South Korean. Our DMZ is not militarized but the area surrounding it is.
19:49 < uzuri> oh yeah, the history regarding the korean one is insane
19:50 < systemdsucks> US imperialism is insane
19:50 < uzuri> TommyC: thanks again, i will look into ccna, probably study for it and NOT take it bc its 300 bucks
19:51 < phy1729> I'd generally not take certs unless someone else is paying for them
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19:51 < uzuri> good advice
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20:24 < Bradipo> Pity uzuri left... this is a decent "book": https://book.systemsapproach.org/
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20:25 < sonya> may be "Charles M. Kozierok - The TCP_IP Guide_ A Comprehensive, Illustrated Internet Protocols Reference-No Starch Press (2005)" also could serve as a reference of some sort..
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20:48 < gnucode> well it seemed to work out ok.
20:49 < gnucode> at least doas -f /etc/pf.conf seemed to reload the rules, and I could block https traffic.
20:49 < gnucode> if I wanted.
20:55 < sibiria> i'd phrase it differently, but it's a working rule set
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21:10 < gnucode> sibiria: may I ask what you would change? 
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