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09:35 < rx> Is it possible to install the system with serial console only?
09:36 < rx> I assume I need a custom ISO
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09:47 < dennis> rx: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SerCon
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09:48 < dennis> Just set tty to preferred console on boot, and you're off
09:57 < IcePic> and your console is .. off. ;)
09:58 < IcePic> if one boots from pxe, it will look for /etc/boot.conf so that could set up the serial console for you I think, if you don't want the hassle of editing bsd.rd or cd-image contents for getting a boot.conf that holds the required "set tty" thing
10:07 < runxiyu> dennis: hm, my problem is that without a keyboard in the first place i'd have trouble seeting it on boot
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10:14 < IcePic> rx: this guide is for someone that wants the fb0 console on rpi, but the same technique should work to set tty to serial console in an cd-image, https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg178253.html
10:18 < runxiyu> hmm, ty
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12:01 < rIMpossible> :-) https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/src/etc/root/root.mail?rev=1.179&content-type=text/plain :-)
12:02 < runxiyu> yay
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12:04 < rIMpossible> Still 2 weeks
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13:54 < jab> morning, I'm hoping to try to get sparrow wallet running on OpenBSD...It looks like the ports tree has jdk 25 packaged.  Sparrow wallet needs at least jdk 22. 
13:56 < thrig> what is the airspeed of an uncompiled sparrow?
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14:21 < jab> what do you mean?  An African sparrow or a German sparrow?
14:22 < jab> also, weird question...I'm trying to use Emacs org-babel to execute code as root...
14:23 < jab> it seems that tramp's normal method of :dir /sudo::/path/to/dir  does not work on OpenBSD.
14:23 < jab> it seems that tramp doesn't support doas.
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14:23 < jab> wait...actually it might...
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14:26 < thrig> assuming no wacky sudo flags are used, you could alias sudo to doas
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14:29 < jab> I think I found a simple elisp code that I'll try first.
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14:31 < jab> the elisp code didn't work.  :(  
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14:32 < jab> I'll try aliasing now...
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14:36 < jab> tramp tried to do this:  sudo -u root -s -H /bin/sh
14:36 < jab> grrr.
14:36 < jab> let me see if I can change those options...
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14:42 < sibiria> it might not be an alternative, but chroot(8) can also execute stuff under different user/group
14:42 < sibiria> e.g. chroot -u nobody -g nobody /some/where <some command line>
14:43 < jab> sibiria: I'm just wanting an easy way to use emacs's org-babel to run commands as root.
14:43 < jab> I don't want to keep copying the command output and pasting it in the emacs buffer.
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14:43 < jab> One can do something like this...
14:44 < jab> #+BEGIN_SRC shell :dir /ssh:root@127.0.0.1:/path/to/dir
14:44 < jab> ls
14:44 < jab> #+END_SRC
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14:44 < jab> but for some reason, on my terminal (lxterminal)  "ssh root@127.0.0.1" says I am entering the password wrong.
14:45 < jab> but I can successfully enter the root password when I use "su"
14:45 < jab> so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong there.
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14:47 < thrig> root may not be allowed to use a password via SSH
14:47 < user71> Can you ssh in as a regular user and thereafter use su?
14:47 < jab> nevermind.  
14:47 < jab> #+BEGIN_SRC shell :dir /doas::/root/
14:47 < jab> ls
14:47 < jab> #+END_SRC 
14:47 < jab> that works
14:48 < jab> thanks!
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17:21 < jab> by the way, ebay is selling these 02AA780 power9 chips really cheaply, $20 a pop.  They might work for the raptor computing motherboards...
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17:32 < thrig> ebay riddled my mail with a deluge of spams after I made the mistake of ordering something through them
17:33 < jab> thrig they still spam you when you bug things.
17:34 < jab> I get 2 emails when 1 would do.
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17:43 < jab> ok, I must be missing something really basic...
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17:44 < jab> this is my doas.conf  ->  "permit persist keepenv :wheel"  
17:44 < jab> group info | grep members -> "members root "joshua" 
17:44 < jab> but doas is not working for me....
17:45 < uwharrie_> were you a member of wheel before you logged in?
17:46 < jab> hmmm...that's a good question.  Let me try logging out and back in.
17:46 < jab> brb
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17:49 < thrig> some OS have a newgroup command for that
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17:59 < jab> yup that was it.  cool. doas works again. 
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18:43 < jab> I can't get the ports tree to build jdk-25
18:43 < jab> mkdir /usr/obj/ports: Permission denied at /usr/ports/infrastructure/bin/portlock line 52. 
18:44 < jab> that was from running make in /usr/ports/jdk/25
18:44 < jab> *** Error 255 in /usr/ports/devel/jdk/25 (/usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bsd.port.mk:2712 'all': @lock=jdk-25.0.0.36.1v0;  export _LOCKS_HELD=...) 
18:44 < Bradipo> permission denied.
18:46 < pardis> either you can just use the package, or you're trying to build -current ports on 7.7, which is not generally expected to work
18:47 < pardis> either way, you're doing something advanced that you should be able to solve yourself if you choose to use ports
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18:48 < pardis> and the error you're getting indicates you haven't even set up ports to build anything yet, let alone something unsupported
18:49 < thrig> I know! chmod everything 755!
18:50 < thrig> err, 777 or whatever those PHP docs said to do
18:51 < jab> I tried following the docs, but they are a little confusing.  But regardless jdk 25 is available.  I'll try messing with that before I come back to ports.  Thanks
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19:09 < antranigv> friends, can anyone please share a OpenIKEd config where a phone can authenticate with PSK and IKEv2 tells it to route all of its traffic via the VPN server? I've been fighting StrongSwan for 5 hours and I'm done with it. any sample of that would work thank you very much
19:09 < antranigv> (I am on FreeBSD btw, but I will be testing on OpenBSD before porting the config to FreeBSD)
19:10 < Bradipo> So you're saying that you've been trying to make this work using StrongSwan and it isn't working, so now you're going to try the same thing with OpenBSD?
19:11 < antranigv> Bradipo I've been trying to get StrongSwan to work but I've been going crazy for why its not working :( at least the OpenBSD .conf files are human readable
19:11 < thrig> vpn were all too complicated for me until wireguard came along
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19:11 < antranigv> same
19:12 < antranigv> alas my BlackBerry 10 device does not support WireGuard
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19:12 < Bradipo> To be fair, isakmpd on OpenBSD is fairly well documented and can be made to work with a little less hassle than some of the alternatives.
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19:12 < Bradipo> I haven't used OpenIKEd before though.
19:12 < Bradipo> For me, SSH was the simplest VPN. :-)
19:12 < Bradipo> Of course it has the TCP/IP problem that other VPN technologies don't have.
19:13 < Bradipo> But it's really easy to tunnel complete networks using SSH and route commands.
19:13 < thrig> it was easier to write something that tunneled dns over tcp over ssh than figure out openvpn or whatever
19:13 < Bradipo> Yep.
19:14 < Bradipo> antranigv: Is BlackBerry still making devices?
19:14 < antranigv> Bradipo nope. this is one of their last devices: BlackBerry Classic (Q20)
19:21 < armin> blackberry was lik, known For major security flaws, tho, or?
19:21 < thrig> back in the Adobe Flash era
19:22 < armin> ai do remember Flash
19:22 < armin> that was a wild one, yea
19:24 < antranigv> not BB directly, but yes it was Adobe's Flash in BB that was terrible. in their latest OS (BB10) they finally had a normal Unix-like system (QNX) with proper segmentation and sandbox so the drama doesn't happen again
19:24 < antranigv> oh and my BB phone also run pf btw. hehe looks like they ported it.
19:25 < armin> I still use a Nokia e72 I use every day. aside from 4 or 5 iPhones 
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21:08 < ssm_> lazynet, any 2024 posix-compatible make ports for openbsd? I perused ports but couldn't find anything except maybe xmake, but descr left me none the wiser specify
21:08 < ssm_> s/specify//
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