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00:21 < ssm_> openbsd update experience: run out of disk space on /usr -> nuke /usr/share/relink -> nothing else of note
00:22 < ssm_> something tells me I should have repartitioned a few releases ago
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00:34 < thrig> Bloatlander: the Enbloatening
00:35 < byteskeptical> to be fair to you the default recommendations (at least for /usr) have needed a bump for a while
00:36 < byteskeptical> I think they may have recently done so but I saw someone else on the mailing lists run into the same issue
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00:49 < tvtoon> there is no running from the power of blob, but if it is anything less than 20G then it is trouble
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00:53 < Reinhilde> why is /usr separately partitioned? i feel like it'd make more sense to separate /usr/local specifically
00:53 < Reinhilde> if you use that on opebsd, anyway
00:53 < quinq> It is separate
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00:55 < pardis> there are a variety of reasons given at https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Partitioning, some more relevant to /usr than others
00:56 < pardis> something not specifically mentioned there is that some older boot firmware is limited to reading the first portion of the disk, and having everything in /usr dumped onto / could result in the kernel being unreadable at boot time on such hardware
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00:57 < pardis> the default configuration of a small / as the first partition guarantees that /bsd is always near the start of the disk
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01:00 < ssm_> $ man disklabel | awk '/10/{a=1}/^$/{if(a==1){exit}}{if(a==1){print $0}}'
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01:03 < emmanuelux> I got same error 6 month or one year ago, so i switch to one partition and a swap file on /
01:05 < pardis> my bungee cord got tangled up so I just cut it
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01:12 < craigbro> thank you for all the work on OpenBSD over the years.  It's been a steady and reliable foundation, and my safe space.  After dealing with macos and linux and all the chaos of supposedly "modern" software development, it's always a pleasure to come back to my OpenBSD environment, largely unchanges over decades, that I know will work, and will not enshittify and disempower me.
01:14 < thrig> "user wanted github and npm installed because copilot told them so"
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01:27 < Reinhilde> I have considered writing some programmes in Tcl/Tk.
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01:57 < vxla> ssm_: I also ran out of disk space. Repartitioned /usr and /usr/local to 4GB each so that should last a while. 
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02:25 < thrig> 640GB when
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02:32 < rtj> Thanks for another great release.
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03:51 < vortexx> that was odd, tmux-nicklist-portable started using loads of cpu and basically froze irssi
03:52 < vortexx> (perl script)
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04:23 < vortexx> when I killed it it reconnected me to irc. Really strange
04:23 < vortexx> s/it it/it irssi/
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05:43 < xse> looks like py3-aiohttp is missing py3-typing_extensions as dependency on 7.8 -> https://tmp.krkrkr.org/aiohttp.wantmorelibs
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06:31 < rkta> I get some messages about a device timeout during boot (pciide0:1:0: device timeout, c_bcount=0, c_skip=0, status=0x58<DRDY,DSC,DRQ>, ireason=0x1). Where would I start investigating what's wrong here? At least I would want to get rid of the delay during boot.
06:32 < rkta> And this is with -current, was already with 7.7 and 7.8.
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07:40 < vortexx> 2Gb /usr is too small to do an upgrade with 7.8, had to remove /usr/share/relink
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08:53 < vortexx> also /usr/src needs to be bigger than 3Gb now, or you can finish building release at the creating the iso and img stage
08:53 < vortexx> s/you can finish/you can't finish
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09:04 < sonya>   '/dev/sd0a      2.9G    2.0G    782M    73%    /' .. separate /tmp .. /usr/{local,obj,ports,src,xenocara,xobj} and /var - all symlinked to the huge /home with 'wxallowed' flag.. single sources for http/ftp resources (links within a single partition) is a bonus.. backups are selective, not like whole dd things.. not optimal, as soon '/' would be increased to 5Gb minimum..
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19:05 < vortexx> anyone noticing speed improvements on APU2/3/4/5/6 with 7.8 improvements?
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19:30 < lts> No APU but perf looks the same for me in all workloads, including network
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19:32 < lts> I would have liked PF queues not still reset to zero after 2^32-1 but maybe someday
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