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00:54 -!- Topic for #openbsd: Unofficial OpenBSD support channel; try to stay on topic | https://www.openbsd.org | https://www.openbsd.org/faq | Read These Fine Manual Pages (we can help find the right one): https://man.openbsd.org/ | Can't speak? https://libera.chat/guides/registration | 3+ line pastes? termbin.com, paste.debian.net, et al | No politics, etc.
00:54 -!- Topic set by oldlaptop [] [Wed Oct 22 02:02:15 2025]
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00:54 [ aaro            ] [ el           ] [ leah            ] [ ryleeg          ] 
00:54 [ aaronm04        ] [ elagost_     ] [ leah2           ] [ ryukazou        ] 
00:54 [ ACG             ] [ elarks       ] [ Lefinnois       ] [ s1b1            ] 
00:54 [ acidfoo         ] [ elarks1      ] [ lemontree       ] [ sadbeast        ] 
00:54 [ acidsys         ] [ emacsomancer ] [ LenPayne_       ] [ saeedm          ] 
00:54 [ acro            ] [ emigrant     ] [ leo_            ] [ Saint_Tuesday   ] 
00:54 [ afresh1         ] [ emmanuelux   ] [ leonardus       ] [ samebchase      ] 
00:54 [ aibo            ] [ empee_       ] [ Leone           ] [ Sario           ] 
00:54 [ ajr             ] [ Emru         ] [ leonixyz        ] [ sbehrens        ] 
00:54 [ akarle          ] [ eniac        ] [ lescx           ] [ sbr             ] 
00:54 [ akspecs         ] [ enrh1        ] [ letoram         ] [ scain           ] 
00:54 [ Albright        ] [ Erhard       ] [ lil_lasagna     ] [ schalken1       ] 
00:54 [ alex            ] [ ericonr      ] [ linetrace       ] [ sd0             ] 
00:54 [ alexisg         ] [ eriol_       ] [ linsux          ] [ sdk_            ] 
00:54 [ Alhazred        ] [ eschaton     ] [ LinuxRenaissance] [ seninha         ] 
00:54 [ alip            ] [ EtherNet     ] [ lockywolf       ] [ senzilla        ] 
00:54 [ alx^            ] [ Everything   ] [ LohanG          ] [ serxoz          ] 
00:54 [ amatecha        ] [ Exa          ] [ lolok           ] [ setient         ] 
00:54 [ andinus         ] [ Exagone313   ] [ lorenzo27       ] [ sh1             ] 
00:54 [ andrath_        ] [ ExtraZero    ] [ Lotsen          ] [ shahab          ] 
00:54 [ andreas303      ] [ f451         ] [ Ltning          ] [ shann           ] 
00:54 [ anexit          ] [ f6k          ] [ lts-            ] [ shdw            ] 
00:54 [ animone         ] [ fallback     ] [ lucas-          ] [ sherbert        ] 
00:54 [ antanst         ] [ falsifian_   ] [ ludovicus       ] [ shreven2        ] 
00:54 [ Antarez         ] [ fedaykin     ] [ lumidify_       ] [ shtrophic       ] 
00:54 [ anthk_          ] [ felco        ] [ lumineth_       ] [ sibiria         ] 
00:54 [ antranigv       ] [ fengshaun    ] [ luscious1       ] [ SiFuh           ] 
00:54 [ aosync          ] [ fflam        ] [ luser1          ] [ SiFuh_          ] 
00:54 [ apotheon        ] [ fhc0         ] [ lynge           ] [ signaryk        ] 
00:54 [ aqsd            ] [ figment      ] [ lysy            ] [ sirphat0n       ] 
00:54 [ ArchCezar       ] [ finsternis   ] [ m0v_            ] [ Siva            ] 
00:54 [ archpc          ] [ Fish         ] [ m15o            ] [ sjg_            ] 
00:54 [ ArGGu^^         ] [ fixou        ] [ m1dnight_       ] [ sjs             ] 
00:54 [ ariadna         ] [ fkr          ] [ magyar_         ] [ skrzyp          ] 
00:54 [ ariel           ] [ Flax_        ] [ makr            ] [ skydoge         ] 
00:54 [ armani_         ] [ flaxarn      ] [ manis           ] [ skydrome        ] 
00:54 [ armin           ] [ flaxarn_     ] [ mapet           ] [ skyl4rk         ] 
00:54 [ artmdl          ] [ fm-          ] [ marcdimarco     ] [ slim            ] 
00:54 [ artoj           ] [ fossdd       ] [ markand_        ] [ slondr          ] 
00:54 [ astroanax       ] [ foton        ] [ martian67       ] [ sm2n            ] 
00:54 [ at_work         ] [ foxxx0       ] [ martin_         ] [ smashgrab       ] 
00:54 [ avemestr        ] [ Foxy_        ] [ Maylay          ] [ snthmt          ] 
00:54 [ Awoobis         ] [ fputs        ] [ mbuhl           ] [ solaare         ] 
00:54 [ b100w11         ] [ franks2      ] [ mccd_           ] [ sonne_          ] 
00:54 [ B113            ] [ fredrikb_    ] [ memset          ] [ sputnik         ] 
00:54 [ B3-bomber       ] [ frkazoid333  ] [ MentalExcuse    ] [ Spydar007       ] 
00:54 [ baby_groot      ] [ frodo        ] [ meros67817602046] [ srhm            ] 
00:54 [ babz            ] [ froggychair  ] [ mesaoptimizer   ] [ sskras          ] 
00:54 [ backspacesmiling] [ frx          ] [ mesaoptimizer0  ] [ ssm_            ] 
00:54 [ baraq           ] [ fvincenzo    ] [ metala          ] [ Stealth         ] 
00:54 [ baz             ] [ gabeio       ] [ metavoid        ] [ stefanobsdcafe  ] 
00:54 [ beastie         ] [ gachikuku    ] [ mete-           ] [ stgl            ] 
00:54 [ beech           ] [ gawen_       ] [ mg-             ] [ sttau           ] 
00:54 [ beg             ] [ gbe          ] [ miah            ] [ sudden          ] 
00:54 [ benji           ] [ gbe_         ] [ miah1           ] [ supaman         ] 
00:54 [ beo             ] [ gbmor1       ] [ michel          ] [ SurfBlueCrab    ] 
00:54 [ bertiger        ] [ gce108       ] [ micronn         ] [ surgot_         ] 
00:54 [ BillyZane2      ] [ geezabiscuit ] [ militantorc     ] [ surrounder      ] 
00:54 [ bitflip_        ] [ ggb          ] [ MiniontobyPI    ] [ swaggboi        ] 
00:54 [ bket            ] [ ghane        ] [ mischief        ] [ sweatiest_      ] 
00:54 [ bla             ] [ ghoulpine    ] [ mjl-            ] [ sysfu           ] 
00:54 [ bleb            ] [ gid          ] [ mjt             ] [ systemdsucks    ] 
00:54 [ bluejaypop      ] [ gipa         ] [ mkukri          ] [ szilard         ] 
00:54 [ Bokamosho       ] [ gjn          ] [ mlarkin         ] [ taleon          ] 
00:54 [ bombuzal        ] [ gknux        ] [ modern_pleb     ] [ tcb             ] 
00:54 [ Boohumbug       ] [ glu          ] [ moetunes        ] [ technoid_       ] 
00:54 [ bountyht        ] [ Gozno_       ] [ moko            ] [ terminaldweller ] 
00:54 [ bradd           ] [ GreaseMonkey ] [ monkeybusiness  ] [ tertullian      ] 
00:54 [ brass           ] [ greeb_       ] [ monolith        ] [ tf              ] 
00:54 [ brianth         ] [ greenfork    ] [ MonsoonSecrecy  ] [ that_lurker     ] 
00:54 [ bruflu          ] [ greybyte1    ] [ mordac          ] [ The_Blode       ] 
00:54 [ brushaway____   ] [ grim         ] [ mornfall        ] [ TheLion         ] 
00:54 [ brynet          ] [ gshumway_    ] [ moviuro         ] [ theruran        ] 
00:54 [ bsandro         ] [ gt           ] [ mpark           ] [ thesemicolons   ] 
00:54 [ bsdbandit01_    ] [ Guest534     ] [ MrPlop          ] [ thfr            ] 
00:54 [ bsdperl         ] [ gumnos       ] [ mtoy            ] [ Thorne          ] 
00:54 [ buayadarat_     ] [ gwn          ] [ muirrum         ] [ thowe           ] 
00:54 [ burley          ] [ Hackerpcs    ] [ mvt             ] [ thrig           ] 
00:54 [ busterbcook     ] [ haddock      ] [ mw              ] [ thumbs          ] 
00:54 [ bylzz           ] [ hakabuam     ] [ mx              ] [ tib67           ] 
00:54 [ byteskeptical   ] [ halden       ] [ mx08            ] [ tk              ] 
00:54 [ C-Keen          ] [ hedy         ] [ mz`             ] [ Tobbi           ] 
00:54 [ c0ded           ] [ henrik       ] [ n0xa_           ] [ tobiasu         ] 
00:54 [ carneous        ] [ henrix       ] [ n1000           ] [ TommyC          ] 
00:54 [ casaca          ] [ hirigaray    ] [ Nahual          ] [ tommyrot        ] 
00:54 [ cawfee          ] [ hisacro_     ] [ nathanpc        ] [ toorop_         ] 
00:54 [ caze``          ] [ hjckr        ] [ nature          ] [ topcat001       ] 
00:54 [ CCIE|VOICE      ] [ Hobbyboy     ] [ nawcom          ] [ topoi           ] 
00:54 [ cenobite        ] [ housemate_   ] [ nckx            ] [ tostr           ] 
00:54 [ cgnarne         ] [ hugohagogo   ] [ nedko           ] [ toxic063        ] 
00:54 [ charles05_      ] [ humm         ] [ Nei             ] [ travis          ] 
00:54 [ chasmo77        ] [ huy_         ] [ nekobit         ] [ treefrob        ] 
00:54 [ CheckMyBrain    ] [ hygo         ] [ nerfur          ] [ Treibholz       ] 
00:54 [ Chewbakka85     ] [ i00nsu       ] [ nikken          ] [ trench          ] 
00:54 [ chilledfrogs    ] [ IcePic       ] [ ninex_          ] [ tribaal_        ] 
00:54 [ chiselfuse      ] [ ichdasic1    ] [ ninjin          ] [ Tristam_        ] 
00:54 [ chkhd           ] [ ikarso       ] [ nixfloyd        ] [ tronexte        ] 
00:54 [ chorc           ] [ Iketani      ] [ nnn             ] [ trucy           ] 
00:54 [ chrisz          ] [ ikichigai    ] [ Norkle          ] [ tuftedocelot    ] 
00:54 [ citbl           ] [ il           ] [ nsuperbus_      ] [ tureba          ] 
00:54 [ ClaudioM        ] [ inky         ] [ nwe             ] [ tux0r           ] 
00:54 [ clemens3        ] [ insistent    ] [ o0x1eef         ] [ tvtoon          ] 
00:54 [ cleptho         ] [ inz          ] [ obcecado        ] [ two_nekobits    ] 
00:54 [ cleric_         ] [ irl          ] [ Oclair          ] [ tyfon_          ] 
00:54 [ cmcsun          ] [ isakBSD      ] [ okt             ] [ tylerius        ] 
00:54 [ cnuke           ] [ itchy        ] [ oldlaptop       ] [ typicat         ] 
00:54 [ cobra           ] [ itchy_       ] [ om3ga           ] [ ule             ] 
00:54 [ CoBryceIRCMatrix] [ itok         ] [ op3kkt4r_       ] [ umgeher         ] 
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00:54 [ CosmicDJ        ] [ j3s          ] [ pabs3           ] [ unwrapped_monad ] 
00:54 [ cow321          ] [ jab`         ] [ panzeroceania   ] [ user24037       ] 
00:54 [ CowboyNeal      ] [ jackpine     ] [ parai           ] [ user_with_nouser] 
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00:54 [ cpk             ] [ jakzale      ] [ paulgrmn        ] [ uwharrie        ] 
00:54 [ cr4sh0v3rrid3   ] [ jambove      ] [ pcarrier        ] [ v45h_           ] 
00:54 [ craigbro`       ] [ jason123onirc] [ Pent            ] [ vaelen          ] 
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00:54 [ CrashOverride   ] [ jca          ] [ phryk           ] [ varighet        ] 
00:54 [ crb_            ] [ jdgr_        ] [ phy1729         ] [ vezhlys         ] 
00:54 [ crc             ] [ jds          ] [ pirateoverboard_] [ vhespanha       ] 
00:54 [ CrimeWave       ] [ jedesa       ] [ Pixi`           ] [ vhns            ] 
00:54 [ cross           ] [ jerryf       ] [ pjlover         ] [ Vigdis          ] 
00:54 [ cs_0x6373       ] [ JerryXiao    ] [ pjlover_        ] [ viq|w           ] 
00:54 [ D0peX           ] [ jess_        ] [ pkubaj          ] [ visl            ] 
00:54 [ dab21           ] [ jgh          ] [ plasma          ] [ VoidKrypt       ] 
00:54 [ daemonix        ] [ jhgfbh7779   ] [ pmikkelsen      ] [ vol             ] 
00:54 [ daimrod         ] [ jibsaramnim_ ] [ polarian        ] [ vortexx         ] 
00:54 [ DaleHaswell     ] [ jimh         ] [ polishdub       ] [ vxla            ] 
00:54 [ dam64k          ] [ JimRM_       ] [ Poorchop        ] [ waffles         ] 
00:54 [ darkBLACK       ] [ jistr        ] [ Poster          ] [ Warr1024        ] 
00:54 [ DarkTaffy       ] [ jjf          ] [ Posterdati      ] [ waves           ] 
00:54 [ DasBrain^Wee    ] [ jkkm         ] [ pr-asadi        ] [ weezelding      ] 
00:54 [ dastain         ] [ jkm          ] [ psw             ] [ whatcc          ] 
00:54 [ davl_           ] [ jkossen_     ] [ psy32nd         ] [ whitenite       ] 
00:54 [ davlefou        ] [ jleightcap   ] [ puida           ] [ WhyNotHugo      ] 
00:54 [ dayid           ] [ jmcgnh       ] [ pvac            ] [ winq_           ] 
00:54 [ dbohdan         ] [ jnth-        ] [ PyR3X_          ] [ wiu             ] 
00:54 [ dbohdan[phone]  ] [ johnLate     ] [ pyro            ] [ wkoszek         ] 
00:54 [ deepesttoaster  ] [ johnzlly     ] [ pyu_            ] [ wmoxam          ] 
00:54 [ defa            ] [ jonadab      ] [ quark           ] [ wnh             ] 
00:54 [ deglebe         ] [ jonf         ] [ quinq           ] [ wolfdog         ] 
00:54 [ deimosBSD       ] [ jonf___      ] [ r3s0            ] [ x_x             ] 
00:54 [ dennis          ] [ josuah_      ] [ raghavgururajan ] [ Xe              ] 
00:54 [ dev1ls          ] [ joxn         ] [ rahl            ] [ xelxebar        ] 
00:54 [ dev_zero        ] [ jp11         ] [ rain0r          ] [ Xenguy          ] 
00:54 [ devleloper      ] [ jpb          ] [ rak             ] [ xerox           ] 
00:54 [ dg              ] [ jpoc         ] [ rakka           ] [ xoddf2          ] 
00:54 [ dgoerger        ] [ jrm          ] [ ramrunner       ] [ xs              ] 
00:54 [ diox            ] [ jrmu         ] [ raspbeguy       ] [ xse             ] 
00:54 [ djhankb9311     ] [ JTL          ] [ rawgreaze       ] [ xvilka          ] 
00:54 [ dkeav           ] [ jtt          ] [ RayS            ] [ xxb             ] 
00:54 [ dlg             ] [ julienxx     ] [ Rayyan          ] [ Xylemon         ] 
00:54 [ donofrio_       ] [ jupiter126   ] [ rc              ] [ yang            ] 
00:54 [ dooder          ] [ k0ga         ] [ rcf             ] [ yang3           ] 
00:54 [ dostoyevsky2    ] [ k2patel      ] [ ReBo            ] [ ymherklotz      ] 
00:54 [ down200         ] [ k_wolf       ] [ Red_            ] [ Yonle           ] 
00:54 [ DrachenMaus     ] [ kabluxi      ] [ reight          ] [ ytada           ] 
00:54 [ drainer333      ] [ kevin        ] [ Reinhilde       ] [ yuanti          ] 
00:54 [ drathir_tor     ] [ khct         ] [ remiliascarlet  ] [ zami3l          ] 
00:54 [ DreamweaverN    ] [ khrbtxyz     ] [ renaud          ] [ zbcm            ] 
00:54 [ drkhsh          ] [ klea         ] [ rEv9            ] [ zcheng3         ] 
00:54 [ drustan         ] [ klsrqm       ] [ riceandbeans    ] [ Zeftax          ] 
00:54 [ dsff            ] [ kn           ] [ riksteri        ] [ zelest          ] 
00:54 [ duckworld       ] [ knrd         ] [ rIMpossible     ] [ zelest_         ] 
00:54 [ dudz            ] [ kodcode      ] [ rjc             ] [ zenptr          ] 
00:54 [ dumbmf          ] [ koo5_        ] [ rkta            ] [ zerob           ] 
00:54 [ duri            ] [ koolazer     ] [ rnelson         ] [ Zeroctober      ] 
00:54 [ dustinm`        ] [ kpcyrd       ] [ rnkn            ] [ ZHuangZi        ] 
00:54 [ dv^_^           ] [ kremlin      ] [ robertf         ] [ zie             ] 
00:54 [ dvl             ] [ krjst        ] [ rodolphoeck     ] [ zimmer          ] 
00:54 [ dza             ] [ krl          ] [ romel           ] [ zippy           ] 
00:54 [ dzwdz           ] [ kroovy       ] [ root4           ] [ zircon          ] 
00:54 [ easeout         ] [ krzych       ] [ RootCellar      ] [ ZLima12         ] 
00:54 [ eax_            ] [ kyberkiwi    ] [ rootnode_       ] [ znedw454        ] 
00:54 [ eburk           ] [ kylophone    ] [ rptr            ] [ zwr             ] 
00:54 [ echelon         ] [ l0rd_hex     ] [ rsadowski       ] [ zx2c4           ] 
00:54 [ eea             ] [ labrnth_     ] [ rtj             ] [ zyffer          ] 
00:54 [ eigil           ] [ lagkage_     ] [ rudi_s          ] [ |darc|          ] 
00:54 [ einyx           ] [ lain`        ] [ rueda           ] [ |darc|-         ] 
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03:30 < blackbox> I'm trying to write a port for OpenBSD. I'm stuck on fetching all the submodules, for example one of the submodules I have defined is "github miniupnp miniupnp miniupnpd_2_2_1 ./external" this is a *tagged* release but is not in the "/releases" directory. Can I handle this?
03:31 < blackbox> It seems to only want to grab a release when I run make ">> No size recorded for miniupnp-miniupnp-miniupnpd_2_2_1.tar.gz"
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03:37 < phy1729> make makesum
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03:40 < blackbox> Thanks, fixed it
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08:30 < emmanuelux> in hostname.if file, can we import a variable from a file ?
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09:04 < Posterdati> hi
09:05 < sonya> emmanuelux, looks like with !command it'd be possible, but i didn't check it..
09:05 < Posterdati> please I need to install OpenBSD on an old IBM eServer xeon machine from around 2002
09:05 < Posterdati> which version should I use?
09:05 < Posterdati> I have no usb boot, only lan and floppy/cdrom boot available
09:06 < quinq> Use the last version
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09:07 < Posterdati> not working
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09:07 < quinq> This issue report will need to be improved
09:08 < Posterdati> OpenBSD bootloader gave me an error like, command line too long
09:08 < Posterdati> and after loading the kernel it reboots (trying 7.8 amd64)
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09:10 < quinq> Is it an amd64 machine?
09:10 < Posterdati> xeon machine
09:10 < Posterdati> are xeon 32 bit too?
09:11 < elarks1> I'm pretty sure 64bit wasnt much of a thing yet in 2002
09:16 < sonya> ibm , afair, had a nasty zoo instead of cpu back in 2000.. from power, to some 64-bin mainframes with x86 in the low-end.. though i only remember ads and had no maney for a real hw..
09:16 < Posterdati> Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology (EM64T)
09:17 < Posterdati> IBM eServer xSeries 226 (Type 8488)
09:17 < Posterdati> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/overview-ibm-eserver-xseries-226-type-8488
09:18 < Posterdati> is em64t a non standard x86_64?
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09:21 < Posterdati> would amd64 installation work on it?
09:22 < Posterdati> the install78.iso won't fit on a cdrom
09:22 < Posterdati> even in overburning
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09:30 < sonya> Posterdati, may be https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.8/amd64/cd78.iso could fit.. seemth that xeon inside shoud be 'amd64' compatible, as it runs windows'2003 server ..
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09:31 < Posterdati> this machine has windows nt server 2003 :)
09:32 < sonya> yep, 64-bit (best windows ever, imho)
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09:34 < sonya> unfortunatelly can't help any further.. may be $ man 8 pxeboot could help, if network is available..
09:36 < sonya> $ man 8 diskless  → if all other options failed..
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10:15 < quinq> “OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64 processors. Machines with compatible processors (such as Intel's EM64T processors) are also supported.”
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10:25 < avemestr> Posterdati: You just have to find some 99 minutes CD-R /s
10:25 < avemestr> (They do exist, but it's probably a futile endeavour in many ways)
10:28 < quinq> Posterdati, there's also cd78.iso, it's small and if you have network that's all you need
10:30 < mischief> why not replace the computer
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10:41 < quinq> mischief, too heavy
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11:52 < franks2> Hi, I'm trying to fetch a port I'm creating, but it complains on file size, anyone see whats wrong? https://gist.github.com/fr0x41nk/fecd493be958a09ddd25022f694d8728
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12:05 < thrig> so much for things going off without a hitch
12:08 < franks2> thrig: :-)
12:08 < IcePic> franks2: so is the file SIZE (hitch-1.8.0.tar.gz) = 155094 and what did the port expect its size to be?
12:10 < IcePic> the distinfo file would be the one holding the expected size I guess
12:10 < IcePic> like this from nmap
12:10 < IcePic> $ more /usr/ports/net/nmap/distinfo                                         
12:10 < IcePic> SHA256 (nmap-7.92.tgz) = BkGD6mQtxMErGrO1NYzhzvfS5+Ef+ihJ8W0zn1txcRc=
12:10 < IcePic> SIZE (nmap-7.92.tgz) = 12985468
12:10 < zbcm_> the sets just being a tar'd directory structure that you can extract into / is very cool
12:11 < thrig> dang nmap put on some weight in middle age
12:11 < IcePic> zbcm_: yes, if you accidentally bork your /usr/lib or something, you can just boot "bsd.rd" and "upgrade" into same version and it will fill it back from the sets
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12:12 < thrig> (possibly minus syspatches)
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12:15 < franks2> IcePic: https://gist.github.com/fr0x41nk/2ef95e835f8a094de3ea35cd3417cfe4 yea, looks to match *shrug*
12:17 < poh> dayum
12:18 < avemestr> franks2: You don't show the content of distinfo there.
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12:20 < franks2> avemestr: its in the top , first line
12:20 < IcePic> avemestr: it was in the top
12:20 < IcePic> I also missed it first
12:20 < IcePic> wonder if there could be some odd non-visible space making it compare bad?
12:21 < avemestr> Ah, sorry.
12:22 < franks2> IcePic: damn, you were right. deleted it and wrote it by hand in the top... now it fetches... Thank you! I spent entire last evening on this :-D
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12:38 < IcePic> franks2: hth
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13:41 < franks2> Continuing with my port, when I try to run it with "make" it fails because of "bison/yacc not found"... but when i run it with the exact same params with ./configure in the folder manually it goes OK. Hm!
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13:42 < IcePic> the port is built in a specific env in the pobj/... build dirs
13:42 < IcePic> if you didn't say it needs bison/yacc, it will not get links to those in its bin/ dir and will not find them
13:42 < IcePic> it is meant to not randomly pick up binaries you may or may not have installed
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13:45 < franks2> IcePic: wow, really, thats quite cool. thank you for the information
13:46 < IcePic> not saying this is right, but some port makes bison available as "yacc" for its build like this:
13:46 < IcePic> re-configure:
13:46 < IcePic> -       ln -sf ${LOCALBASE}/bin/bison ${WRKDIR}/bin/yacc
13:46 < IcePic> (dont mind the dash, it was a negative diff)
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13:47 < IcePic> still, the idea is that it populates the WRKDIR/bin with a binary (in this case a link to the bison package presumably already installed) 
13:47 < franks2> hm, i see i got devel/bison as a build-dep already in my makefile
13:47 < IcePic> some other port used this
13:47 < IcePic>  YACC =                 ${LOCALBASE}/bin/bison -y
13:48 < IcePic> but now you might know what to look for
13:48 < franks2> https://gist.github.com/fr0x41nk/489b452c7603cd9fa1ca45a0b6e7538e However, not too much in bin dir
13:48 < franks2> aha, yea ,thx!
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13:50 < franks2> IcePic: Awesome, thank you so much, that YACC = ${}... Fixed it, it now builds :-)
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15:59 < Posterdati> quinq: hi
16:00 < Posterdati> quinq: I used cd78.iso, but no way
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16:00 < Posterdati> quinq: it boots, then show an error about cmd line too long, then loads the kernel, then resets the machine :)
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16:10 < thrig> very secure
16:13 < IcePic> "Hackers hate this one trick to secure your server by reboot immediately"
16:21 < quinq> Posterdati, have you tried the x32 port?
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16:47 < Posterdati> quinq no
16:49 < Posterdati> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/overview-ibm-eserver-xseries-226-type-8488
16:49 < Posterdati> mine has got a lid on the front with the eserver patch on it
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17:03 < quinq> Sorry, that was a rhetorical question
17:04 < quinq> I meant try x32
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17:06 < Posterdati> quinq: ok
17:06 < Posterdati> quinq: I could try
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17:25 < rkta> What do I need to do to enable cloning via https with gotwebd? manual talks about cloneurl, but that was not helpful.
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17:47 < vortexx> Posterdati: maybe this server was upgraded with a later xeon but I'd try the i386 port FIRST not amd64
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17:48 < vortexx> and if you know how to set up tftp boot on the lan, I'd use that
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17:49 < Posterdati> vortexx: mmh
17:51 < Posterdati> vortexx: it could be a 32 bit machine as well
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18:37 < vortexx> Posterdati: first AMD 64 bit CPU hit the market in 2003 iirc
18:38 < oldlaptop> And Intel didn't ship their own implementation for another three years or so.
18:38 < oldlaptop> A "Xeon" from about 2002 is not going to be amd64.
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18:47 < thrig> no really itanium is the future
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18:53 < cgnarne> tbf itanium was pretty neat. oh well...
18:54 < thrig> tbf multix was pretty neat, but we got unix instead
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18:59 < cgnarne> don't be so cynical
18:59 < Posterdati> em64t
19:00 < Posterdati> that's explain the reboot and the bootloader complains
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23:51 < i00nsu> Does anyone know how to disable "suspend" behavior on laptops, when closed? 
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23:54 < oldlaptop> You probably want the machdep.lidaction sysctl.
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23:58 < oldlaptop> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/etc.amd64/sysctl.conf?rev=1.10&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup (should be appended to /etc/examples/sysctl.conf on a running amd64 system)
23:58 < ssm_> suspend being enabled by default is such a weird default. I guess it's a good way to get testers for a routinely jank acpi feature
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23:59 < ssm_> s/suspend/& on lid close/
23:59 < oldlaptop> It's the typically expected behavior for a laptop.
23:59 < i00nsu> awesome oldlaptop thank You.. my cats and I appreciate it! 
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