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02:59 < rnkn> if I’m running a pubnix what are some files I should monitor for security?
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04:34 < rnkn> probably too open ended a question 
04:36 < rnkn> thinking mtree + signify + monit but the thing I’m wondering is how to get the checksums off the remote machine before they can be (potentially) compromised?
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07:09 < rnkn> oh there's security(8)
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08:09 < IcePic> vortexx_: great, then I got karma++ for it
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10:10 < rkta> I borked my install with the faulty snapshot. I booted a miniroot that should work. Do I just use Install or do I need to do manual repair? I would prefer if my data would not be wiped out. Also using FDE.
10:15 < rueda> if you have a system, just do an "upgrade" (i.e. downgrade to a system which still works)
10:15 < rueda> I'm assuming you're referring to: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=176319377915316&w=2
10:16 < rkta> rueda: yes, exactly
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10:21 < rkta> Will it detect my FDE or do I need to unlock it first?
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10:25 < rueda> What worked for me was:
10:25 < rueda> from installer, go to (s)hell
10:25 < rueda> cd /dev
10:25 < rueda> sh MAKEDEV sd0 sd1
10:25 < rueda> bioctl -c C -l sd0a softraid0
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10:26 < rueda> <enter passphrase>
10:26 < rueda> exit
10:26 < rueda> (u)pgrade [back in the installer]
10:27 < rueda> specify sd1 as target
10:27 < rueda> Don't think I made any typos there :)
10:33 < rkta> Thanks! I assume to s/sd/wd/g when not using a SDD, but a HDD, right?
10:35 < rueda> guess so.  whatever 'sysctl hw.disknames' tells you you have.  make sure to avoid the boot usb [if that's what you are using]
10:40 < rkta> ok, installer is running. hope to Enter through it. *fingers crossed*
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10:51 < rkta> changed location of sets to the working snapshots url from the mail
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10:53 < rueda> makes sense
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11:10 < rkta> back from my laptop, thanks rueda!
11:13 < rueda> no trouble.  I hope you lost less time that I did!
11:14 < rkta> I should have checked my mails again before doing the sysupgrade... Just lost a good hour.
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11:15 < rueda> I lost quite a few hours, but that's probably because I'm in AU.
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11:18 < armin> souls of impatience. the only real loss is ignoring what the experience teaches.
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12:36 < kerneldove> is it ok to ask a question about freebsd's pf here?
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12:37 < kerneldove> i'm just thinking there might be overlap on something i'm confused by: i'm tailing pflog and seeing a bunch of pass out messages, but why? i only have 'log' on 1 rule and it's not the rule matching these messages. my pflog tail cmd is tcpdump -e -i pflog0 -l -n -t fwiw
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12:57 < asji> kerneldove: all rules that match, will be logged. Even if you don't explicitly set to log. The pflog0 interface, don't do discriminations. It will log all the events from all network-cards. 
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12:59 < asji> mainly the "block" ones. For example, I don't have a rule to block DNS communication, but is some DNS is blocked, it will be logged. 
12:59 < IcePic> asji: the pf.conf manpage seems to hint at that you would need "log" to get it to pass into pflog, I can certainly see the confusion
13:00 < IcePic> https://man.ifconfig.se/pf.conf.5#log
13:00 < IcePic> it doesn't specifically say that lines without log does not get logged either, but that would be the default assumption
13:00 < asji> strange.. because, as i describe, some logs are printed, without being specified in the pf.conf 
13:01 < asji> ah ok
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13:05 < kerneldove> what's especially confusing is there are plenty of rule events (blocks, passes) that don't get logged to pflog. so what's the logic?
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13:53 < phy1729> You'd be better off asking the freebsd channel as the two have diverged
13:55 < kerneldove> ok
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15:43 < armin> Since this channel has 22x the amount of people compared to #openbsd-social - is there some reasonable event to find OpenBSD fans in Berlin? I struggle to find something.
15:45 < sonya> armin, https://www.openbsd.org/groups.html  /Germany .. i guess
15:47 < armin> sonya: that's the reason I ended up asking here actually, thank you though.
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15:49 < sonya> sorry.. i'm in the same shoes actually :)
15:50 < stuart> armin: Gotta be something at c-base, or at least I keep hearing people talk about it.
15:50 < stuart> Haven't got around to actually going, though.
15:50 < stuart> https://www.c-base.org
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15:59 < armin> stuart: I've been there a couple of times actually. Would love to simply have people to drink beer and talk about OpenBSD with a tiny bit more nevertheless (hey, wishful thinking...)
15:59 < armin> thank you. :)
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16:01 < stuart> Well, depending on how picky you are you could probably drink lots and lots of beer and sit outside Zoologischer Garten and talk about OpenBSD.  I'm pretty sure people frequently do the beer and talking thing there.  I'm not entirely certain they're talking about operating systems, though.
16:07 < oldlaptop> find an art museum and wear your 7.0 merchandise!
16:10 < oldlaptop> or a competetive rowing event for 7.6
16:13 < stuart> I wonder if FU has something.  They host one of the OpenBSD mirrors.  	https://ftp.spline.de/pub/OpenBSD/ -> https://spline.de/about/
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16:40 < sibiria> stuart: that may or may not draw ire from one of the opposing *nix factions patrolling the area
16:40 < sibiria> but it's a good start for dialogue
16:44 < stuart> Fortunately the violent types I've encountered there are too lazy to go to the nearby park.  Don't want to be strapped to a tree, chopped down, and...
16:44 < stuart> die a log!
16:57 < ssm_> you live a tree or you die a log :( :( :(
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17:02 < stuart> You either grow a red/black tree or you dye a log.
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18:11 < Guestmodinfo> hi
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18:30 < cgnarne> ola
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19:36 < remiliascarlet> I somehow misread that as "die like a dog".
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20:31 < avemestr> armin: The spline folks mentioned earlier also have their own IRC channel, so perhaps worth asking there as well.
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