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05:36 < phryk> a little piggie told me openbsd is a bit more up-to-date than freebsd in terms of gpu support. i'm currently trying to figure out how much that is the case… how do i find what linux version openbsds drm port is equivalent to? for freebsd it's a package so it's just the package version, for openbsd it seems to be part of the base system?
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05:37 < phryk> in particular i'm wondering if openbsd already matches linux 6.13+, which as far as i can tell is required for basic support of the amd 9070[xt].
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05:40 < thrig> https://www.openbsd.org/78.html might mention things like 6.12 or so
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05:44 < phryk> thrig: thanks. so, are drm versions are pinned to openbsd versions or is the version mentioned just what's in there at release?
05:45 < thrig> not sure what pinning means, if you look at the CVS logs there will be "import blah de blah" commits
05:47 < phryk> the linked page states drm 6.12.50 for openbsd 7.8 – is there a chance for 6.13+ to arrive in 7.8 or will that only happen in the 7.9 release?
05:48 < thrig> hilariously unlikely that 7.8 would see such a major change
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05:48 < phryk> that's what i assumed, thanks for clarifying.
05:49 < thrig> you can also follow -current but then you need to keep up with the current
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05:52 < phryk> yeah, i'm looking for a less painful experience, i think. i could wait for the 7.9 release that looks like it'll happen in april, gonna keep that in the back of my mind while i continue my search.^^
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05:54 < phryk> but hey, there *are* godot packages, so it's definitely an option. :)
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05:58 < thrig> waiting for godot is always an option
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06:00 < phryk> thrig: tell me about it. been waiting for properly working IK since the 2.0 days. now some work has been merged so that it looks like it might actually become a thing in 4.7. 😂
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19:06 < Guestmodinfo> hi just checking
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19:07 < fro> checking what?
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19:14 < lts-> how awesome OpenBSD still is, year after year
19:16 < vortexx> all praise OpenBSD!
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19:32 < asji> maybe a stupid question: Does Obsd have some "red team" trying to exploit the system, while developing? 
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19:36 < quinq> asji, it's open source, they're all reds
19:36 < asji> :)) that is a clever answer
19:37 < quinq> Just my unproductive participation because I don't know better ^^
19:39 < asji> make sense if obsd have something similar, mainly this days that red-teams included in software development is getting very common
19:41 < fro> is that common in volunteer run projects?
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19:41 < quinq> I haven't learned a lot about similar things
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19:43 < asji> fro, I guess it is, but depends on the project.. but I am not sure is true
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19:46 < il> did you know that `tmux a -t $target` doesn't need the entire name of the session, just the shortest uniquely matching substring of the name of the desired session
19:46 < il> I didn't
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20:06 < deconfed> how to make full secure os which downloads updates and packages from another server where krysa-like-class admin can just import anything and sign it
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20:10 < Bradipo> What's a krysa-like-class ?
20:10 < deconfed> typical wep administrator since 199x
20:15 < Bradipo> I've never heard the term before I guess.
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20:17 < deconfed> yes
20:20 < fro> same dunno what that is
20:22  * deconfed it
20:23 < fro> what
20:23 < deconfed> aim,wh,speed hack
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20:25 < fro> right so i guess this is just nonsense
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20:28 < deconfed> well, probably you did not unload ppl decisions and complexes
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20:29 < thrig> block them all, and throw in some cidr bans for all those Brazil cloud IPs while you're at it
20:31 < deconfed> then remove network cable and find the stacks still messed even after reboot
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20:58 < c0co> is there an openbsd equivalent of iw / iwconfig?
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21:00 < quinq> That would be ifconfig
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21:03 < il> So, that's obviously a markov chain or perhaps something slightly complicated, maybe a very small, locally run llm
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21:07 < il> I'm guessing it either uses logs from some weird channel or was trained on a very small context if its an llm, because I couldn't really find an occurence of 'krysa-like-class' online. I just found out that 'krysa' apparently means rat in russian.
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22:16 < mischief> il: what is 'that' in this context?
22:17 < Bradipo> I'm guessing that it refers to the potential that deconfed was a bot of some kind.
22:17  * deconfed Day changed to Tuesday, 18. Nov 2025
22:17 < Bradipo> s/was/is
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22:21 < Bradipo> Eh deconfed? What can be said about it?
22:21 < deconfed> it works
22:21 < Bradipo> deconfed: What works?
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22:44 < quinq> $/15
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22:46 < izder456> I have a port i maintain emulators/melonds that will have OpenBSD JIT support in the next release when that comes out, but it needs W^X. right now, i just disable the JIT for 1.0 in the build flags, though its default is to have the JIT on. when i update the port, i'd just add USE_WXNEEDED=Yes and remove the CONFIGURE_ARG that disables the JIT building...correct? 
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23:59 < c0co> sorry for repeat q but lost conn earlier. Is there an obsd equivalent of iw / iwconfig?
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