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13:01 < CosmicDJ_> fcking AI scrapers Nov 18 04:43:18 mail monit[96650]: 'vio0' total upload 1.0 GB matches limit [upload rate > 1 GB in last 1 hour]
13:04 < TommyC> Are you using Anubis?
13:05 < CosmicDJ_> no, just smtpd and dovecot + httpd for cal/carddav
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13:06 < CosmicDJ_> this went on for nearly 9 hrs... I've blocked the whole subnet for now
13:07 < TommyC> CosmicDJ_: Good luck. Consider Anubis if it's not enough.
13:07 < CosmicDJ_> TommyC: I will check it out, thank you :)
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13:59 < dvb> hello! i am new to openbsd and am looking for a small, fanless, energy-efficient server to gain some experience. can you recommend something that is well supported? i have already done some searching and came across the asus nuc 13 rugged, but perhaps you have some better suggestions
14:02 < mischief> old thinkpads are well supported and come with a builtin keyboard, mouse and UPS
14:04 < thrig> some older cpu aren't known for being energy efficient though
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14:08 < thrig> otoh keeping older if inefficient things out of the ewaste stream might also be good?
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14:10 < sibiria> dvb: the odroid h3 is apparently safe to run with just its heatsink
14:10 < sibiria> i have one that i run with a fan on low RPM. doesn't get particularly warm
14:10 < sibiria> i guess the h4 despite a few watts higher TDP might also do OK with just heatsink
14:10 < mischief> fugu$ sysctl hw.model hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0
14:10 < mischief> hw.model=Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4115 CPU @ 1.80GHz
14:10 < mischief> hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=59.00 degC
14:10 < mischief> odroid h2, no fan
14:11 < sibiria> hw.model=Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz
14:11 < sibiria> hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=27.00 degC
14:11 < sibiria> h3, 92mm fan on super low RPM
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14:12 < sibiria> got my fan only to pull warm air out of the case, really. it's not blowing on the heatsink even
14:12 < oldlaptop> just think - the extra power that old thinkpad used could have generated a third of a token worth of chatgpt output!
14:14 < dvb> thanks a lot for your suggestions! :)
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14:16 < oldlaptop> Old thinkpads (or whatever - some ewaste consumer crapbook will generally be "well supported" enough to be a server) *will* generally not be fanless, strictly speaking.
14:16 < oldlaptop> They should be pretty quiet, especially when acting as a learning-purposes-mostly server.
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14:18 < LinuxRenaissance> can someone give me a hint, please. I have iwx wifi card on my laptop, openbsd 7.8 installed, the card generally works fine. I have several join entries in my hostname.iwx0 and they all work no matter if I am at home or in the office, it auto connects to what is available,
14:18 < LinuxRenaissance> however, it can't connect to my iPhone hotspot no matter if I set it to 5GHz or "compatibility mode".
14:18 < oldlaptop> (and those requirements probably leave you an *awful* lot of latitude as far as just how lousy the crapbook can be. Some Pentium M Inspiron with a broken screen will sling static web pages to a userbase countable on one hand just fine.)
14:19 < eea> what if tbat hand has more or less than 5 fingers?
14:20 < oldlaptop> (realistically, you could be a millipede counting your legs and it'll make no difference)
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14:23 < dvb> that's a good idea. to avoid waste, i didn't want to buy new hardware, but something used instead
14:23 < mischief> my x301 with an anemic 1.4ghz core2duo is chugging right along with openbsd
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14:25 < thrig> https://pbfcomics.com/comics/nautical-awards/
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14:55 < eea> i recall quite fondly getting 50 simultaneous dial up consumers on 2 486dx4 hosts :)
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19:08 < mmlj4> I'm on 7.0, want to upgrade to the latest release... will syspatch do it in one go, or I do have to do it by steps (7.0 to 7.1, etc.)?
19:08 < mmlj4> or is there a better/other method?
19:09 < phy1729> One by one is the only supported way
19:09 < Bradipo> Or you can backup your data and reinstall and then restore.  But that may not be a simple task either.
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19:10 < thrig> reinstall also may get you a different partition layout
19:11 < mmlj4> I suspected it would be one by one, thanks
19:11 < mmlj4> yes, I will probably blow it away and restore my backups
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19:14 < op2> mmlj4: while it's not supported, sysupgrade IIRC has learned how to jump thru multiple releases, so you might, if you're brave, lucky, and know how to keep the pieces together, back up your data and jump all the way thru 7.8 (although that's a fairly big jump), and apply the various per-release steps as needed
19:15 < thrig> and sysclean, package updates blah blal blhal
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19:25 < cgnarne> If you upgrade from 7.0 i'd go with a reinstall because you might run out of space on some partitions
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23:34 < nanach1> is there a list of operating systems that work on vmd?
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23:35 < sibiria> not sure. but a few of the usual suspects work well: debian (and devuan), alpine, void, a couple more
23:35 < nanach1> i see
23:35 < nanach1> i tried to run minix and it did not work
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23:35 < nanach1> but it may be my own fault
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