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00:16 < echelon> why doesn't openbsd's tcpdump let you capture from all interfaces?
00:16 < echelon> i need to run a separate tcpdump for each interface?
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00:19 < vortexx> echelon: maybe you'd care to explain what you're trying to achieve with tcpdump?
00:20 < echelon> vortexx: i'm trying to capture incoming and outgoing traffic from a specific application
00:21 < echelon> and it would be nice to see it all on the same capture
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00:36 < vortexx> echelon: maybe wireshark would be easier for that? 
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02:29 < echelon> vortexx: that's unfortunate, why can't it just have the option of specifying multiple interfaces or 'any' option like tcpdump on linux
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02:35 < humm> I believe OpenBSD’s tcpdump is just an older version of the one from the package you’d use on Linux, idk how much it has diverged or how hard it may be to get a current version of upstream running on OpenBSD
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02:41 < thrig> the flags are deffo different
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12:16 < avemestr> There's a clever way to invert the value of "sndioctl output.mute". But I cannot recall it. So if it is currently muted it will unmute, and if it's not muted it will mute.
12:18 < avemestr> "sndioctl output.mute=(!somethingorsomething)" (obviously not the correct syntax)
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12:19 < anthk_> uhm I guess the readline port it's broken
12:19 < anthk_> it needs a termcap.pc file
12:20 < anthk_> pkg-config --cflags readline
12:20 < anthk_> Package termcap was not found in the pkg-config search path.
12:20 < ssm_> avemestr: this works for me sndioctl output.mute=$(( !$(sndioctl -n output.mute) ))
12:21 < avemestr> ssm_: Perfect! Thanks!
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12:24 < avemestr> ssm_: I'm using it with i3s config like: bindsym XF86AudioMute exec "sndioctl output.mute=$(( !$(sndioctl -n output.mute) ))" - and it works well. Once again thanks!
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12:35 < luna__> https://media.ccc.de/v/vcfb2021_-_138_-_en_-_202110091800_-_update_computer_club_-_pontus_pihlgren pretty interesting (but well i am a nerd that likes this kind of stuff)
12:45 < xse> it's just output.mute=! iirc
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12:48 < avemestr> xse: Lovely, even better! I might have mislead with my bad memory of the longer version. Thanks!
12:50 < gipa> TIL and it's documented in the examples of the man sndioctl ;)
12:51 < avemestr> Now, this is just embarrassing! ;-)
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14:14 < ssm_> can dhcpleased.conf wildcard all interfaces, or must you specify an interface?
14:14 < ssm_> I suppose you can just use trunk(4)
14:17 < quinq> ssm_, by default it automatically uses all interfaces (that are marked for AUTOCONF4)
14:17 < quinq> Ah sorry, you meant for having specific configuration, right?
14:18 < ssm_> I tried excluding interface blah {}, but dhcpleased throws a syntax error
14:18 < ssm_> specifically just `send no host name`
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16:23 < tk>  /reconnect 
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17:39 < puffybuf> anyone know how to boot Linux VM from OpenBSD Host. grub boot loader
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17:42 < sibiria> it should boot on its own
17:43 < sibiria> is it perhaps that you have GRUB set to wait 30 seconds on the menu before it proceeds?
17:43 < sonya> qemu may be..
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17:44 < sonya> if vmctl/vmd is not an option
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17:54 < jitter> hi, 39c3 is going to have a openbsd assembly :) just a few seats. if you are interested in contributing something - please msg me.
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17:56 < sibiria> you should definitely send that invitation out to the misc mailing list
17:57 < vortexx> puffybuf: it's always best to tell us exactly what you're trying to do, so linux flavour & version, and a pastebin of the boot sequence. Is this at install or first boot?
17:58 < avemestr> jitter: Nice!
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18:24 < puffybuf> I managed to install Debian Linux on a VM OpenBSD host, got the networking (NAT) and DNS working
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18:24 < puffybuf> not sure what kernel options I need for serial console. I just need to get a sshd going
18:25 < puffybuf> I might try alpine linux https://www.tumfatig.net/2022/running-docker-host-openbsd-vmd/
18:26 < puffybuf> it just gives a blank screen when I press enter on grub
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18:35 < sd0> puffybuf: "console=ttyS0"
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18:44 < vortexx> sd0: works better when you do this: echo 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="console=ttyS0,8n1,115200"' >>/etc/default/grub
18:44 < vortexx> and do whatever the distro needs to update grub
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19:09 < sibiria> you need a specific version of alpine for it to work under vmm/vmd
19:09 < sibiria> void is a better choice for a minimal linux, in my opinion
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19:18 < metavoid> I run alpine under vmd as a podman host, wasn't very tricky install
19:19 < metavoid> I used alpine-virt-3.22.1-x86_64.iso at the time of install
19:22 < TommyC> How is void for minimalism? I always found Fedora's "Everything" (which is not well named since it's really a net installer) or RHEL (or one of its clones) minimal to be quite, well... minimal.
19:24 < sibiria> in my opinion, from having run RHEL/Centos/Rocky in the past, void is a lot more barebones
19:24 < sibiria> but not to the annoying point that alpine is
19:25 < sibiria> it's slim but reasonably so
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19:26 < anthk_> ah, readline was already mentioned https://openbsdmailbox.blogspot.com/2025/09/re-patch-develreadline-9213p1-p2_28.html
19:26 < TommyC> Hmmm...last time I saw a friend's laptop with Void on it, it had wpa_supplicant on it (and I know his laptop doesn't have a WiFi card) and when he noticed it he tried to remove the package and it didn't work.
19:27 < TommyC> It was a dependency for something else (this was like 7 or 8 weeks ago) so it wouldn't budge without a workaround.
19:27 < humm> I use Alpine and am not at all annoyed by it
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19:28 < kaotica> onnwhat
19:28 < kaotica> ona  laptop?
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19:29 < humm> I used to use it on a laptop, now I mostly use OpenBSD on a laptop
19:29 < TommyC> kaotica: Yeah, it was a Macbook he got handed down from his older sibling.
19:29 < humm> still use Alpine on a server
19:30 < vortexx> TommyC: maybe needed for EAP 802.1x ? (or whatever the IEEE standard is)
19:31 < TommyC> I've no idea. I just know that Fedora's Everything and RHEL minimal don't come with it unless you specifically install it or something that uses it.
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19:44 < sibiria> with void's package manager you can make an exception for the dependency part, and then uninstall the package
19:45 < sibiria> as an example, it comes with microcode packages for all architectures, and you can't immediately uninstall the ones you don't need because they are part of some higher base package
19:45 < sibiria> wpa_supplicant is probably in the same category
19:45 < sibiria> so you set an exception and then remove the package
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19:47 < TommyC> eww :3
19:47 < sibiria> *shrug* seems pretty harmless to me, considering that you can just disable wpa_supplicant, and that the base install is still very small
19:47 < sibiria> smaller than openbsd
19:48 < sibiria> 1.3 gb or something for the glibc installation. musl variant probably shaves a bit more off
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19:58 < kaotica> i wanted to put openbsd on my raspberry pi 2w zero
19:58 < kaotica> but then had second thoughts
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20:13 < vortexx> kaotica: it's been done, what held you back?
20:14 < kaotica> it's overly complicted to do
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20:14 < kaotica> and i dont see the benefit
20:14 < vortexx> (also this was discussed in here a few days ago, but unfortunately I've discovered my client's autolog had been off since the 5th of August for some reason)
20:14 < vortexx> (so don't have that discussion at hand)
20:15 < vortexx> kaotica: well all depends what you'd like to do but it does seem slightly more complicated than usual, even for the rpi platforms
20:19 < kaotica> vortexx: i just want to run a server and login from time to time and run my scripts
20:20 < kaotica> raspos does this fcine
20:21 < kaotica> but i felt going a bit more secure with openbsd 
20:21 < kaotica> and also gaining some openbsd rexperience
20:22 < vortexx> you'd be better off with some el cheapo x86-64 platform then, or some refurb/secondhand gear. arm64 on OpenBSD has quite a bit of support but there aren't too many shortcuts, lots of dtb and firmware messing from what I can tell
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20:24 < kaotica> hopefully openssh-server is secure
20:24 < kaotica> it's written  by the openbsd team right?
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20:26 < kaotica> Yes, Debian makes security patches for OpenSSH-server, and Raspberry Pi OS receives them, but with important caveats about timing and independence.
20:26 < kaotica> ah, crap
20:28 < kaotica> might be worth installing openbsd 
20:29 < kaotica> looking at ways of doing this 
20:30 < kaotica> i feeel such sadness after the gf
20:30 < kaotica> wrog channel
20:30 < kaotica> im role playing 
20:31 < luna__> whoops :p
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20:32 < kaotica> is there no way to install openbsd with ssh
20:32 < kaotica> just boot it up, like gentoo does
20:32 < kaotica> i dont see theneed for hdmi screens
20:32 < kaotica> i mean i do, but i dont like it
20:33 < kaotica> what i can do do is copy and edit all kinds of files to the sdhc card that will run the pi
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20:44 < sibiria> kaotica: no
20:44 < sibiria> you could throw autoinstall on it, as an alternative
20:44 < sibiria> or install in virtualbox and migrate the disk image
20:44 < sibiria> qemu/vbox
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20:52 < kaotica> i'll thinkn about it
20:52 < kaotica> thanks
20:52 < kaotica> thanks all
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20:54 < kaotica> can do autoinstal directly over ssh to the raspbian install heh
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21:00 < kaotica> You can install OpenBSD directly from your running Raspberry Pi OS via SSH using a self-destructing installation method. This writes the OpenBSD image directly to the same SD card currently running your Pi, then reboots into the new OS.
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21:01 < sibiria> is that an "AI" answer?
21:01 < kaotica> iäll do it
21:01 < kaotica> yes
21:01 < kaotica> should i go with what humans say about it? :O
21:01 < sibiria> figures. because the installer doesn't provide ssh connectivity
21:02 < sibiria> the installer runs on the console or over serial
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21:03 < kaotica> it says the autoinstall can be done over ssh to the raspi
21:03 < kaotica> but then the device has to boot with sshd 
21:03 < kaotica> for me to be able to work with it
21:04 < sibiria> autoinstall is a text file you provide your installation medium with. ssh doesn't come into the picture here
21:04 < sibiria> the text file contains prewritten responses to the installation script prompts
21:04 < kaotica> it doesnt reboot with ssh enabled i any case?
21:04 < sibiria> it does if you enable ssh during installation
21:04 < mischief> kaotica: you can try what the AI says and find out just how wrong it is
21:05 < kaotica> mischief: rather not :P
21:06 < mischief> then why tf did you use AI
21:06 < kaotica> to find out how the process might look like
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21:08 < sibiria> there is no option involving ssh, unless you mediate it with some other component
21:09 < sibiria> you install using the console or serial, or you use autoinstall
21:09 < sibiria> those are the breaks
21:11 < kaotica> could i instal from the laptop onto the sdhc using vbox or similar?
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21:14 < vortexx> sshd isn't included in the bsd.rd ramdisk, so that's that.
21:15 < sibiria> yes. you'd install on your hd/ssd and then write the finished installation's disk image onto your SD card
21:15 < kaotica> ok
21:15 < sibiria> works fine using both vbox and qemu
21:15 < vortexx> beware the usual firmware, dtb etc issues
21:15 < xse> a quick look online suggest that specific model will require more than the default install yeah
21:15 < vortexx> you'll have to make sure that's all on the sd card
21:17 < kaotica> is that difficult to do without any prior openbsd experience
21:17 < kaotica> followig guides, etc
21:18 < vortexx> well there's the tumfatig guide
21:18 < xse> see also https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/1j1y7py/comment/mneh8p4/
21:19 < vortexx> do you have an openbsd installed system at hand or are you just using VMs ?
21:19 < vortexx> https://www.tumfatig.net/2023/running-openbsd-on-raspberry-pi-zero-2-w/
21:20 < kaotica> tumfatig uses a keyboard iu think
21:20 < vortexx> and screen, indeed
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21:21 < vortexx> but the auotinstall removes the need for that
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21:47 < kaotica> running qemu now
21:50 < kaotica> after running qemu it toook contrl ovr my mous and keybaord
21:50 < kaotica> nothig ids happning excpt the qemu process is utuliing 100% cpu
21:51 < sibiria> qemu Arm config that openbsd will accept is a bit tricky
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21:59 < kaotica> i killed the process
22:00 < sibiria> these things helped me in the past with qemu for arm guest: -cpu cortex-a57 -smp 2 -M virt -m 2G -drive -file=edk2-aarch64-code.fd,if=pflash
22:00 < sibiria> add to that the image you want to boot off of and your main storage device
22:01 < sibiria> e.g. -drive -file=blah.img,format=raw
22:02 < kaotica> ok
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22:25 < kaotica> install78.iso does not seem to be going past booting from DVD/CD stage
22:25 < kaotica> i think this is failing
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22:32 < kaotica> probably my fault but im not continuing
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22:34 < mischief> why don't you just use a keyboard and mouse, or maybe the serial line
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22:39 < kaotica> i dont have them
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22:41 < sibiria> i don't think you can actually boot the install iso for the arm platforms?
22:41 < sibiria> at least i always prepared the miniroot with the appropriate extras on top
22:42 < vortexx> https://man.openbsd.org/autoinstall#EXAMPLES <-- you need to mount the install78.img and copy the install.conf to the root of it and then umount before dd'ing it to the sd card I think
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22:43 < vortexx> you still need to add the dtb file as in the tumfatig example
22:43 < vortexx> sibiria: not as far as I know either
22:43 < sibiria> also https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.8/arm64/INSTALL.arm64
22:44 < vortexx> there's no getting around the extra steps for the 2w zero, you have to modify the install media
22:44 < puffybuf> I managed to get debian to boot but it can't find the root device. Tried the UUID during install. /dev/vda . I'm talking about OpenBSD host vmd
22:45 < vortexx>  /dev/vda is probably he 
22:45 < vortexx> the right device
22:45 < sibiria> vda is correct. it's the virtio storage device
22:50 < puffybuf> yea /target is /dev/vda1 during install, and grub is installed /dev/vda
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22:52 < puffybuf> not sure why it would exist during install but not after install booting. Gonna try alpine linux
22:53 < sibiria> keep in mind you need the "virt" alpine edition
22:54 < vortexx> just out of curiosity, what do you need to run on linux that isn't available on openbsd, or is this just a "I can run this in vmd" experiment?
23:01 < ssm_> are netbsd and freebsd still unbootable in vmm?
23:05 < ecbrown> i just set up an alpine vm -- i have legacy binary
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23:44 < vortexx> ssm_: we really need to keep a wiki (or better, a faq entry) on this subject of what boots, what's been tried and doesn't
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