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06:51 < IcePic> Posterdati: Yes, and you get to set your own PTR, which helps if you are to run outgoing mailservers from there
06:52 < IcePic> presumably, obsda.ms is so small their ip ranges might never end up in "dialup and temp-ip" ranges for the big stmp dragons to ignore
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06:58 < dwayneiam> Hello, anyone here have problems with irssi/certfp? 
07:00 < dwayneiam> My .irssi folder I'm using now on linux wont work on OpenBSD.
07:02 < dwayneiam> I know that's kindof vague. I created new pem and still no luck. Auth error
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07:05 < mischief> certfp working fine on weechat.
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07:06 < dwayneiam> mischief: works fine on irssi im using it now. Just not on OBSD
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07:25 < mischief> maybe libressl issue?
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09:37 < Posterdati> hi
09:38 < Posterdati> please help, I have problem using which... It returns the error 
09:38 < Posterdati> Command not found
09:38 < Posterdati> instead of exit silently
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09:39 < mischief> try command -V
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09:40 < mischief> see https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/command.html
09:41 < Posterdati> which hasn't got -V
09:42 < mischief> command -V, not which -V
09:42 < Posterdati> $ command -V ecl   
09:42 < Posterdati> ecl not found
09:42 < mischief> command is specified by posix, which is not
09:42 < mischief> either write portable shell scripts or don't use shell
09:44 < gipa> Posterdati: you can redirect the stderr output to /dev/null if you want
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09:45 < IcePic> I seem to recall stuff like "whence", "type" and other find-which-program-I-am-actually-running 
09:45 < Posterdati> no, command -v 
09:45 < Posterdati> not command -V
09:45 < Minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
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09:45 < IcePic> Hi Minall 
09:45 < mischief> or rather i should say, which is nonportable but command as specified by posix is. gnu which has -V for the version....
09:46 < Minall> After a system crash, I checked /var/log/messages, Xorg.0.log and dmesg. However, there's no messages that point to the possible why. I was scp-ing files and watching a video simultanously, so perhaps it may be the intel xe graphics driver? As there's no logs whatsoever
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09:48 < IcePic> Minall: "man crash" shows how (sometimes, if possible) the kernel dumps its coredump to swap, then early boot lifts it up to /var/crash so one can possibly debug it afterwards
09:48 < IcePic> "man savecore" also
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09:48 < Minall> Thanks!, checking!
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09:55 < jca> Minall: that reminds me of https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=176322625904933&w=2 ; should be fixed in -current
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10:03 < Minall> Oh, that appears to be my bug?, Though I just installed this one yesterday, so I am in current
10:03 < Minall> I'll see syspatch
10:04 < Minall> I wonder if it is only related with Firefox... I'll try to see videos on chromium
10:05 < jca> -current is the very latest source code.  7.8 is the -stable release and doesn't have that fix yet.
10:06 < jca> if it's really the same issue, I doubt moving to chromium will change anything
10:08 < Minall> Yeah if mentions firefox but the change is in linux_drm
10:09 < Minall> Welp I'll refrain from videos I guess?
10:09 < Minall> I wonder if local videos also use linux_Drm
10:10 < Minall> Oh, and btw, regarding my yesterday hardware issue, I'm buying one replacement, since the laptop is in a good shape and OpenBSD is running perfectly. :D. I'm happy with my new dedicated system
10:10 < jca> really, make sure whether you're using -current or the 7.8 release
10:12 < Minall> 7.8 release rn
10:13 < Minall> So this is a specific change of code which would only be available in the latest release?, or would it be on a patch ? <- I'm sure there's an option for applying it myself, yet I'm still starting (now I have my dedicated laptop so I could do it for sure)
10:14 < jca> either wait for the fix to trickle down into 7.8-stable, or move to -current
10:16 < Minall> I'll happily wait, there's a lot of things that I can configure/learn about the system so...
10:18 < Minall> Just curious, how much time do fixes like these take, as in how they are managed?
10:18 < Minall> Again just curious, I'm alright waiting any months necessary, even after next fix
10:18 < Minall> /s/fix/release
10:19 < Minall> oh I'm not on the openbsd-bugs mailing list, makes sense
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10:41 < avemestr> Minall: If possible it might be a good idea to return the laptop.
10:42 < avemestr> Minall: The 2nd gen you have bought was a great buy for OpenBSD until... a month ago. Because the iwm device is well-supported in it, and Lenovo switched to some Qualcomm for 3rd and 4th gen.
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10:46 < avemestr> But then stsp goes and improves the qwx driver for the Qualcomm devices (found in the 3+ gen Lenovo AMD laptops) for OpenBSD 7.8, so now they also support 802.11n.
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10:52 < avemestr> Minall: Regarding Firefox (discussion from last week). Here's Theos perspective from 2018: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=152872551609819&w=2
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20:06 < Minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
20:06 < Minall> avemestr: Thanks for the link, I saw it before now it is related to firefox against chrome so it enters in our context
20:07 < Minall> Also, regarding, the new ones are indeed better now that we have qualcomm support as you mentoined, now those are around 1500 minimum, and I got this for around 250, so that's a difference, and not paying in quotas
20:07 < Minall> And well, I talked with the shop and they are giving me replacement parts, so I'm alright with this laptop, really it is strong enough and I can work with it
20:08 < Minall> For the price definitely, because well, 250 to 1500 is quite the sum haha.
20:08 < Minall> Aside from the video issue, there's no other issues I found, and everything is alright
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