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07:24 < avemestr> izder456: There's a #openbsd-gaming channel here on Libera as well.
07:24 < avemestr> Ah, sorry, you mention it at the end.
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08:39 < rtj> avemestr: thats neat
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15:33 < JohnGalt> I am OpenBSD curious, I have run it several times, and now I would like to learn more about the malware mitigation, and privelage escelation features. I know about the manpages definitely, I am looking more for the unique features of the system. Are there papers I should look at, or a book?
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15:53 < cgnarne> https://www.openbsd.org/innovations.html
15:53 < cgnarne> https://www.openbsd.org/events.html
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16:39 < JohnGalt> thanks!
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17:13 < morte> brynet: openbsd is working now, thanks for the suggestion 
17:13 < morte> finally openbsd on my macbook air
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17:31 < Minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
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17:32 < IcePic> o/
17:32 < Minall> I talked before a complete system crash when watching videos on firefox (not limited to firefox), now, in case someone is having this in current (which is fixed already in the most up to date code) Doesn't happen for me if I don't watch the videos on full screen.
17:32 < Minall> May be luck, but in my case I haven't got any crash when watching videos not on fullscreen
17:32 < Minall> IcePic: o/
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17:33 < Minall> Aside from that, does VLC have not good support with sndio?, I got interference in my songs until I tested MPV, perfect reproduction in files I had interference in certain parts, now I don't in MPV
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17:39 < zbcm> A similar problem happens for me in any browser. I'll try and troubleshoot, but so far the logs aren't that helpful and I can't even switch tty when it hangs.
17:40 < vortexx> it may be a login.conf problem with not enough ressources available to the browser
17:40 < vortexx> the defaults can be a bit low for desktops
17:41 < vortexx> especially if you're running gnome or kde
17:41 < zbcm> Thanks. I'll check, but my limits are quite high.
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17:49 < sibiria> i have a similar (but possibly unrelated) issue with either firefox, amdgpu(4) or X. websites that allocated a lot of video memory will eventually crash firefox. e.g. flying around on google earth will eat more and more vram until the browser crashes
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18:33 < Minall> sibiria: Interesting
18:33 < Minall> I'll read about login.conf when I can
18:34 < Minall> vortexx: thanks
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19:24 < saeedm> are there any gotchas with imsg?
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19:28 < mischief> what do you mean by 'gotchas'
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19:35 < thrig> presumably the random summoning of nasal daemons or mallet-bearing monitor gnomes
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19:47 < saeedm> well, reasons to avoid
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20:41 < ecbrown> is there a way to softraid / bioctl a non-encrypted volume, using only one volume?  i can trick it by striping together two of the same size, but wonder if there's a way to have raid with one volume
20:42 < ecbrown> (and do it with one volume with bioctl -c C)
20:46 < ecbrown> Purpose: i am playing with https://github.com/kusumi/openbsd_hammer2.git and can only mount_hammer2 on a slice declared as RAID in diskutil -E
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20:47 < ecbrown> well, i should say, i have to mount sd0m (RAID) to get sd1, then I can newfs_hammer2 /dev/rsd1c and mount_hammer2 /dev/sd1c /mnt/hammer2
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20:49 < ecbrown> so to do this "unencrypted" it seems i have to bioctl -c 1 -l /dev/sd0m,/dev/sd0n softraid0 where i've split the intended storage in half
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20:55 < mischief> saeedm: evidenced by the fact that nearly every instance of ipc in openbsd base uses imsg, no, there are not reasons to avoid it.
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21:02 < thrig> a FIFO might suffice and might be more portable, depending on what exactly is being done, etc
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21:05 < ssm_> <ipc in openbsd base uses imsg> iMessage?! I think I found the ipsec backdoor
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21:12 < vortexx> ecbrown: I don't think you can with a single volume, unless you use encrypted
21:12 < ecbrown> vortexx: thanks for confirming
21:12 < vortexx> yw
21:12 < vortexx> good luck with testing hammerfs2
21:13 < ecbrown> thanks, having a blast.  it seems to like....   work
21:13 < vortexx> (I went to luck at the github page of the port for that, seems interesting but I wouldn't put crucial data on there)
21:13 < vortexx> (also doesn't seem to have a 7.8 patch but presumably the 7.7 one works)
21:13 < ecbrown> i applied to current by hand
21:14 < ecbrown> it was pretty easy
21:16 < vortexx> yes I expected it would be
21:16 < vortexx> fs code doesn't get much churn these days
21:16 < vortexx> might spin up a VM and give it a go
21:17 < vortexx> not that I know of all the cool features hammer2 is meant to bring, but it might be fun to try
21:17 < quinq> wut, hammer2 running on OpenBSD?
21:20 < ecbrown> you can see my application here: https://github.com/ecbrown/openbsd-src/tree/hammer2-demo.  then you need just install kusumi's binaries (but not patch), make && pkg_add bash sudo && make install && pkg_delete bash sudo
21:21 < ecbrown> quinq: i've been "hammering" away with iozone test on current, amd64 and even arm64
21:22 < ecbrown> this comes from dfly, which is amd64-only so i had to add some preprocessor stuff for arm 
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21:25 < vortexx> ecbrown: you should be running databases on that partition too
21:25 < vortexx> and maybe torrent stuff as well
21:25 < ecbrown> if 50 years matthew dillon will be known as "the guy who wrote openbsd's filesystem"
21:25 < ecbrown> s/if/in
21:25 < vortexx> hehe
21:26 < vortexx> heresy, but funny
21:26 < ecbrown> vortexx: yup, i'm doing postgresql dumps
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21:26 < ecbrown> shut down db, checkpoint, bring db up quick, dump from fs-mounted snapshot on maintenance port
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21:28 < ecbrown> and it doesn't eat all my ram unlike zfs
21:28 < vortexx> good stuff
21:28 < ecbrown> thanks for the interest.  it's really tripped my trigger, not sure why but i find it fascinating
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21:31 < vortexx> it's the kind of thing I used to try avidly 20 years ago, lol
21:31 < vortexx> I ran RAIDFRAME kernels for about 10 releases I think back then
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21:32 < vortexx> wasn't worth the effort but was interesting
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21:37 < vortexx> I've since concluded that raid for routers is of limited interest, so long as the router isn't also a file server
21:37 < vortexx> it's always best to segment every task when possible
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21:45 < rtj> how do you segment women?
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21:57 < ecbrown> i think hammer2 is closer to btrfs than to zfs, so snapshots & compression rather than volume management
21:58 < vortexx> rtj: very very carefully
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22:03 < rtj> i love you ladies, just trying to be funny
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22:07 < c0co> hello
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22:37 < SymbioticFemale> wh/4
22:37 < SymbioticFemale> fail.
22:41 < c0co> wh/5
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22:53 < vortexx> if you're on irssi, just use alt-number key to change channel instead of doing /4 for ex :p
22:54 < c0co> wh/vortexx
22:55 < c0co> wh/russian-numbers-station
22:56 < thrig> unless you use vi keys in which case alt broken probably
22:56 < aaronm04> anyone know why the haskell splitmix package would fail to compile due to sys/random.h not being found?
22:59 < aaronm04>  /join #haskell
22:59 < aaronm04> oops lol
23:00 < SymbioticFemale> vortexx: nice tip but yeah conflicts with my terminal emulator
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