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03:45 < jrmu> It used to be that the BSD bootloader booted automatically (I presume it booted sr0a:/bsd), but now it no longer auto boots and instead shows
03:45 < jrmu> open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Invalid argument
03:45 < jrmu> cannot open hd0a:/etc/random.seed: Invalid argument
03:45 < jrmu> boot sr0a:/bsd works fine, I am going to try to edit /etc/boot.conf to use this device by default, but I didn't need to specify this in the past
03:45 < jrmu> did something change?
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03:52 < pardis> probably
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03:56 < thfr> jrmu: do you use full-disk encryption?
03:56 < jrmu> thfr: no, just RAID1 mirroring
03:58 < thfr> did you do something like `bioctl -d` on your boot drive?
03:59 < thfr> that's where I had a similar issue
03:59 < thfr> I think I was able to boot it with something like this at the boot prompt:
03:59 < thfr> boot sr0a:/bsd
03:59 < jrmu> no, bioctl shows it's still intact
04:00 < jrmu> although in a degraded state it seems
04:00 < jrmu> yeah I ran boot sr0a:/bsd, but I'm hoping to avoid doing this manually
04:00 < jrmu> I guess maybe it's due to the degraded state of the mirror
04:01 < jrmu> but last time I tried to rebuild the mirror on a live system, the system froze on me and left the array inconsistent
04:01 < thfr> hm, that's out of my wheelhouse
04:01 < jrmu> no worries, thanks for the help
04:03 < jrmu> I think this might be it
04:03 < jrmu> > softraid0: roaming device  -> sd0a
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06:06 < vortexx> jrmu: that's definitely the source of your problems
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06:09 < vortexx> rustc-LLVM ERROR: out of memory <--- gkrust didn't build in firefox despite 24G of ram... from my zabbix graphs, it didn't use the full 24 just 21 and no swap, which is weird. Guess I better add some more ram to the VM
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06:18 < thrig> bloooat
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10:18 < asji> Hello. Is possible to setup PF to accept connections only from a specific host? 
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10:23 < o0x1eef> Yes, that's definitely possible, and not that complicated. What did you try? 
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10:55 < IcePic> ..crickets
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11:20 < asji> o0x1eef: I didn'Ât specify any rule, since I don't know the syntax for that (is for local network) 
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11:25 < asji> I imagine something like "pass in on egress { $sshPort } from $trusted_machine to re0 keep state" but I am not sure
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11:27 < sibiria> pass in quick on <wan_if> proto tcp from <ip> to (<wan_if>) port 22
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11:31 < asji> thank you sibiria 
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11:34 < asji> hmm.. I continue to have access from other ips of the same sub-network and the only (in) rule is that one that you help me to setup
11:36 < sibiria> for a full rule set you will want a bit more than just that one rule
11:36 < sibiria> you also need to reload the rules after making changes
11:36 < asji> yes, I did reload them
11:37 < asji> sibiria: "a bit more than jsut that 'one rule'" | should I specify a "block" rule against all others that are not that machine? 
11:40 < sibiria> asji: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1413486 this would be the most bare minimal example to do only what you asked about
11:41 < sibiria> alter interface names etc. as needed
11:42 < asji> ok let me try
11:42 < sibiria> if you're routing a LAN behind that machine, that will stop working with that ruleset
11:42 < sibiria> fyi
11:43 < sibiria> emphasis on "to do ONLY what you asked about"
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11:46 < asji> Excellent! work as expected. Thank You so much! 
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12:24 < sibiria> yw
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15:10 < dansimon> Hi all, how do I disable KARL, > /var/db/kernel.SHA256, or some such..?
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16:05 < rsadowski> dansimon: /usr/libexec/reorder_kernel in rc(8) but the question is why?
16:05 < uzuri> did chromium get bricked for everyone else in the new snapshot? didnt see anything in the lists so far
16:08 < mischief> someone just complained about it in https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=176547000204358&w=2
16:09 < dansimon> rsadowski: I'd like to disable it on a very old and slow lappy, I wouldn't on a "modern" (>20 years) PC ;)
16:10 < rsadowski> remove it from /etc/rc and your done
16:10 < rsadowski> chromium-142.0.7444.175p0->143.0.7499.40 (so far so good
16:11 < uzuri> mischief: ah thanks, checks out
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17:02 < pardis> that is terrible advice
17:02 < pardis> dansimon: what you originally said is the right way
17:02 < pardis> do not edit /etc/rc
17:02 < pardis> it will get clobbered on update
17:03 < pardis> though note that disabling KARL will break syspatches with kernel patches in them anyway
17:04 < thrig> at least KARL won't beat you at chess, unlike HAL
17:09 < quinq> Though being beaten at chess is kind of better than being ejected into space
17:10 < sibiria> or being caught pleasuring oneself in the escape pod. "dave? what are you doing, dave?"
17:10 < quinq> jaja
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17:20 < dansimon> pardis: Ah, thanks!
17:22 < dansimon> Yeah, no KARL is not a good default, but for this particular trashbin it makes sense, thanks guys!
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17:36 < jrmu> vortexx: any way to prevent the softraid device from roaming?
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18:05 < echelon> is there a best practice for securing keys/secrets in memory?
18:05 < lts> correct horse battery staple
18:06 < echelon> is that a reference to an xkcd comic?
18:06 < lts> Yes
18:06 < ssm_> mount_mfs
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18:07 < echelon> i mean, assume it's for openssh, the server reads the key from /etc/ssh/sshd_host_key or wherever, how is it further secured while held in memory?
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18:10 < pardis> that depends on how many cache bugs your CPU has
18:11 < echelon> yeah :/
18:11 < uzuri> hardened_malloc might be interesting for you
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18:11 < echelon> thanks
18:12 < echelon> is this a grapheneos thing?
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18:13 < uzuri> yes
18:13 < uzuri> its been ported to desktop linux, no idea how the situation on *BSD is
18:14 < echelon> interesting
18:15 < echelon> would be a nice addition to pledge/unveil
18:15 < uzuri> send the diff :D
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18:33 < vortexx> jrmu: use duids for the drives, I suppose? Not sure otherwise
18:33 < jrmu> in fstab I have duids specified
18:33 < jrmu> is there another file where I can specify duids?
18:33 < vortexx> when you create the raid array with bioctl I'd say
18:34 < jrmu> hm, is there any place to edit that now?
18:34 < jrmu> it's already been created
18:34 < vortexx> doubt it, probably best to backup all data and recreate
18:35 < vortexx> and hope sd0 doesn't go walkies again
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18:39 < jrmu> I'm starting to think that RAID1 with softraid is even less reliable than a single disk
18:40 < jrmu> if any of the two disks fails, the entire thing comes crashing down
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19:33 < psionic_> wifi ac support? 2030+ tbd 
19:33 < psionic_> :D
19:39 < pardis> roaming softraid disks is normal and almost certainly unrelated to problems booting, which occurs way before kernel device enumeration
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20:31 < Bradipo> I just discovered "ps -e" to inspect environment variables of processes.
20:33 < echelon> how
20:33 < echelon> oh.. never noticed that.
20:34 < echelon> do globally exported env vars also appear?
20:34 < thrig> what is a "globally exported env var"?
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20:35 < echelon> you do `export foo=bar` and then run `./app`, instead of .. `foo=bar ./app`
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20:37 < thrig> how is that "global" as opposed to the normal passing of all env vars to the child process? (the shell is wacky and has an export flag, but that's the shell being wacky)
20:39 < echelon> well.. `foo=bar ./app` would make $foo a local variable to only ./app
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20:41 < thrig> and to the shell process shortly before it execs
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20:41 < echelon> but it looks like it shows everything in `ps -e` ie, TERM, MAIL, HOME, PWD, etc
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20:53 < Bradipo> echelon: It shows whatever is in a given processes environment.
20:53 < Bradipo> If you define an environment variable: XYZ=foo
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20:53 < Bradipo> Then only yoru shell will see XYZ, none of the children processes will have XYZ in their environment.
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