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00:27 < JohnGalt> I am having a problem with what should be simple networking: https://bpa.st/WEVQ
00:27 < JohnGalt> I am trying to use host to return the address for either fortress, or fortress.wired but it always goes to dns
00:29 < bountyht> I think hostname definitions don't go into resolv.conf, JohnGalt 
00:29 < JohnGalt> that would explain it
00:30 < JohnGalt> how do I look up a address for a host in resolv.conf?
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00:30 < JohnGalt> Im looking for nslookup fortress.wired -> <address>
00:31 < bountyht> You don't.
00:31 < JohnGalt> where would that be?
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00:31 < JohnGalt> something has to be able to map a name to an address without running a master domain on a name server
00:32 < bountyht> If we are talking about your host ONLY then your hostfile voids DNS calls. Your machine looks the name up in the hostfile first, if there is nothing there to find he tries to figure out what to do from /etc/resolv.conf
00:32 < bountyht> Which usually means making  dns CALL
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00:32 < JohnGalt> what is the hostfile?
00:33 < bountyht> /etc/hosts
00:33 < JohnGalt> oh I see
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00:36 < JohnGalt> the hostfile is fine, It wont even lookup localhost
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00:51 < pardis> don't use nslookup to test this
00:51 < pardis> from nslookup(1): nslookup - query Internet name servers interactively
00:51 < pardis> it's for quering name servers, not the hosts file
00:52 < pardis> the command you want for using the libc resolver is 'getent hosts'
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01:05 < thrig> resolution order depends on the lookup line in resolv.conf so better check that or what the default order is
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01:06 < JohnGalt> thanks!
01:06 < JohnGalt> Im still pretty new to OpenBSD
01:07 < thrig> exporting LOCALDOMAIN may be a good way to prank people, or cause hard to debug resolution issues
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07:29 < avemestr> jitter: Nice!
07:30 < avemestr> jitter: Unfortunately 39C3 is sold out :-S
07:36 < ninjin> Has anyone ever mailed security@? Sent an e-mail on Monday and have yet to receive a response.
07:36 < ninjin> What I reported was not like an RCE, but I still worry if the darn e-mail got lost.
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08:23 < IcePic> ninjin: I guess it depends on what it was then, I think if it "only" was like "if you bump memory limits and run out of ram and swpa and then do x,y,z the crash is spectacular but I dont know if exploitable" then it might not get as serious and quick response as if it was an unauthed RCE or something that affects all unmodified installs
08:25 < ninjin> IcePic: Yeah, not sure where remote DoS of an optional (but commonly used) daemon lies on that list. I also mucked up the replication step somewhat, but wrote a follow-up now to correct that as I was probably too sleep to realise my mistake when I wrote the initial e-mail.
08:26 < ninjin> Will just be patient and hope that the mails are indeed getting through.
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08:28 < ninjin> I am not a security researcher, so this is very new territory for me. Just stumbled upon a crash when developing and then managed to analyse it somewhat and arrive at a payload.
08:28 < IcePic> neat
08:28 < IcePic> is the daemon in base or is it a port?
08:29 < ninjin> Was pretty fun, just miffed that I am not good enough to patch it.
08:29 < ninjin> Base.
08:29 < ninjin> If it was a port I would be barking up the wrong tree. ;)
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08:31 < IcePic> not totally up the wrong tree, since if it was (for instance) nginx, it would still be something that the ports maintainer might want to look at to see if one can add pledge/unveil or something to prevent or contain the blast radius of the controlled crash you found
08:32 < ninjin> Oh? Did not know that. Will keep that in mind if I stumble upon port issues in the future. I would have suspected you would hit the maintainer directly, but you are right that security@ makes sense.
08:33 < IcePic> it does somewhat depend on what you are able to do after the fact I guess. If poorly-written-supah-fast-httpd-in-php4 bombs out if you give it 4k urls and you can't do anything later because its chrooted in /var/empty running as nobody, then people might care less
08:34 < ninjin> Agreed, but I will keep a bit shut about what I have as this is in public. '^^
08:34 < IcePic> ninjin: sure, its better if the fix can be coded up and committed before getting into details
08:35 < ninjin> Yeah, let us just leave it at that I do not think you can take over a box with it. So, you all can sleep relaxed in that regard, but it does have the potential to wreak a bit of havoc at least. ;)
08:39 < IcePic> I mostly run octeons, and while not hard(er) to exploit as a cpu arch in itself, I guess few people spam the internet with mips64 asm shell-stubs
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10:29 < armani> any neovim users ?
10:30 < armani> for me NVIM v0.11.5 + XTerm/OpenBSD(403) hard freeze when I paste a big file into it (middle mouse or ctrl+v)
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14:09 < sibiria> op2: for what it's worth, i've been on profanity 0.15.1 for a couple of months now and it's doing alright
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14:28 < uzuri> sibiria: no issues with OMEMO?
14:30 < sibiria> uzuri: some of the usual issues, but less than in 0.15.0
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14:32 < uzuri> sibiria: why isnt it updated in ports then?
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15:06 < rkta> man wsconsctl say to # wsconsctl keyboard.map+="keycode 184=Mode_switch" to map the Right Alt key. Where are these keysyms documented? /usr/include/dev/wscons/wsksymdef.h only has #defineKS_Alt_R 0xf108
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15:22 < byteskeptical> rkta: ./sbin/wsconsctl/wsconsctl.8: For a full list of keysyms, and keycodes, refer to the /usr/include/dev/wscons/wsksymdef.h
15:27 < byteskeptical> #define KS_Mode_switch          0xf10a
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15:33 < rkta> Like I said, I looked at wsksymdev.h, there is no 184 in it. And 0xf10a isn't 184 either.
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16:11 < cgnarne> because a keycode is not a keysym. you asked for keysyms and you got your answer.
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16:34 < byteskeptical> ^
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16:34 < byteskeptical> rkta: for your actual question you failed to ask: /usr/src/sys/dev/pckbc/wskbdmap_mfii.c
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16:37 < byteskeptical> just remember the offset before you tell me that doesn't = 184
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18:34 < rkta> yeah, I meant keycode as my example showed.
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18:35 < rkta> I don't have that file on my system, so I guess it is just not documented.
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18:43 < byteskeptical> rkta: it's part of the source code bud? just because you didn't download it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
18:44 < rkta> byteskeptical: of course, and code is also some form of documentation ;)
18:44 < byteskeptical> rkta: your words said different which in text communication is what people focus on
18:45 < byteskeptical> rkta: but your statement claims otherwise :(
18:45 < rkta> mis-communication does happen on the internet. 
18:45 < byteskeptical> at least your admitting the problem now
18:46 < byteskeptical> just personalize it a bit more
18:46 < rkta> I see no problem, but whatever. Thanks for the pointers.
18:46 < byteskeptical> your not welcome
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20:42 < oldlaptop> rkta: There is actual documentation in the source tree too (that isn't shipped in binary releases), in the form of various dusty old papers that need groff from ports to build nowadays
20:43 < oldlaptop> worth having around, with the limitations in mind (e.g. the one on the guts of fsck is basically 30+ years old - then again so, to a certain extent, are fsck and the filesystem)
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20:43 < Chip1972> How to use rsync to backups in zip files?
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20:43 < oldlaptop> ...huh?
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20:45 < Chip1972> output backups in zip files
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20:48 < rkta> oldlaptop: interesting, will check these out, thanks
20:50 < oldlaptop> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/sbin/fsck_ffs/SMM.doc/ is one example - there's some others for vi, etc.
20:50 < oldlaptop> (and more that have been removed as basically unmaintained historical artifacts)
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20:53 < thrig> presumably one would run rsync, then zip some directory tree, I guess, but there may be better backup software out there?
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21:10 < avemestr> Chip1972: Perhaps look into borgbackup.
21:12 < avemestr> Chip1972: Or roll your own script where you first do the rsyncing then the zipping - or the same in reverse order.
21:15 < Chip1972> avemestr: yes... I will do this
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21:16 < rkta> oh, there's also the edtut source, how cool is that :D
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21:27 < thrig> restic isn't too terrible, I guess
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21:29 < IcePic> kopia is also nice
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21:45 < pardis> rclone can do rsync-like copies to zip files
21:45 < pardis> no idea how well its zip file backend works, never used it
21:46 < pardis> oh wait, it's read-only support
21:48 < thrig> r/w may want some wacky fuse thing
21:53 < rkta> ls
21:53 < rkta> oops
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22:16 < Chip1972> how to make a dir drwxrwxrwt? rwt
22:16 < Chip1972> $ ls -l /
22:16 < Chip1972> drwxrwxrwt   2 root wheel  512 Jun  6  2025 tmp
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22:25 < phy1729> https://man.openbsd.org/ls#t~2
22:25 < nologin> Chip1972, man chmod; $ chmod 1777
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22:38 < Chip1972> sonya: Thanks
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