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09:59 < lemontree> Hi!
10:01 < lemontree> is it possible to give VMM the device of a HDD? so when i have openbsd installed on a laptop, i can plug a external HDD into it and forward that into some linux VM?
10:02 < lemontree> reading the manpages currently, and it doesn't seem to be possible?
10:05 < cgnarne> no, you can't pass devices into vmm, only regular files
10:05 < lemontree> ah or can i use qemu for that on openbsd?
10:05 < lemontree> cgnarne: thanks!
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10:06 < cgnarne> No idea. but qemu has no hw accl on OpenBSD 
10:06 < cgnarne> so it'll be slow
10:07 < lemontree> aah okay
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10:47 < stuart> Can you pass /dev/sd1c or something like that?
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11:15 < lemontree> stuart: ah, i now found "hardware passthrough" being explicitly listed as not availalbe in the OpenBSD FAQ
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11:17 < stuart> Yeah, so it'll be a layer or so of indirection, but I'd be curious if it'd still work.
11:17 < stuart> I'd try it if I had a disk lying about.
11:26 < cgnarne> hardware passthrough is something different. think pci passthrough
11:26 < stuart> For sure.  But for just attaching an external drive to a Linux VM, maybe?  So long as you don't need speed.
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11:33 < cgnarne> try it, see what happens
11:34 < stuart> Yeah, as soon as I find a disk somewhere.
11:35 < lemontree> hm, interesting!
11:35 < lemontree> have no openBSD installation currently, so can't test. was rather wondering again what i'd need to install & use openBSD
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11:45 < ssm_> check https://openbsd.org/plat.html
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11:57 < pardis> no, that's not possible unless something has changed recently
11:58 < pardis> you can only pass ordinary files
11:58 < VoidKrypt> hey yo
11:58 < pardis> oh, that's already been said (but ignored?)
11:58 < VoidKrypt> pardis: you using openbsd?
11:59 < pardis> no, I'm just here for my health
11:59 < VoidKrypt> good
12:00 < VoidKrypt> what you using then? Linux
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14:48 < c0co> losing my fucking mind atm. sfeed_curses isn't reading the $SFEED_PLUMBER env var so I can't open any of my feeds
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15:02 < ssm_> c0co: 1) skill issue 2) how are you invoking sfeed_curses? check env(1) to make sure SFEED_PLUMBER is actuallly in env?
15:05 < c0co> 2: sfeed_curses .sfeed/feeds*     3. yes
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15:06 < c0co> .sfeed/feeds/* 
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15:22 < c0co> ssm_ at first i thought it was more xterm / xenodm bs but it also doesn't work in a tty
15:22 < c0co> i'm at a loss
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16:43 < c0co> ok so I tested around and it seems like links just won't take anything from a pipe except in graphical mode
16:43 < c0co> but I was using it in the past for this exact task so I don't understand
16:45 < c0co> echo "openbsd.org" | links      will print a black screen and return to prompt. echo "openbsd.org" | links -g   will open links in graphical mode, but not actually navigate to the url.  echo "openbsd.org | xargs -g" will navigate to the page (but not in txt mode only)
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16:49 < c0co> AH
16:49 < c0co> xargs -o!
16:53 < c0co> still doesn't work from sfeed_curses tho when set as the env var lol
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17:00 < c0co> the only thing that works is firefox
17:01 < c0co> this is fucking dumb
17:01 < c0co> and so am i
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17:05 < c0co> idfgi
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18:04 < stuart> With a bit of coercion and rebuilding vmd a few times, /dev/rsd1c worked enough to boot a USB stick with the OpenBSD installer on it, anyways.
18:04 < stuart> No idea what might break using it for more than that.
18:11 < mischief> does vnd work?
18:13 < stuart> Haven't a clue.  I got as far as commenting out the check for regular files in vmd.c and hardcoding my USB stick's size in vioraw.c :D
18:13 < c0co> i guess sfeed_curses is just fully broken or something now? or maybe links+ is
18:15 < stuart> Though, if you're using vnd, why not just pass the disk image directly to vmm?  Encryption, I guess?
18:16 < c0co> always marks everything as read, no hotkeys work, can't pipe to any browser except firefox
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18:22 < c0co> oh interesting, yanker will work if i set it to xargs -o links g
18:22 < c0co> but not piper or plumber
18:24 < c0co> still setting everything as read by default though
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21:28 < Yukkuri> hi, is there an ioctl (or similar interface) for tun/tap device to indicate presence of carrier in openbsd?
21:32 < mischief> Yukkuri: is it not SIOCGIFMEDIA?
21:34 < mischief> or probably SIOCGIFFLAGS
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21:42 < Yukkuri> yeah, looks like SIOCGIFMEDIA's ifm_status;  https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/97e1364f97a291f66676a660fa4203e590001f5e/sys/net/if_media.h#L959-L960 ; thanks
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23:44 < Minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
23:44 < echelon> hello
23:44 < Minall> I'm trying to install Archlinux to a VM using the VMM system, vmctl start -m 2G -d ~/VMM/archlinux.qcow2 -c -r ~/Downloads/archlinux-2025.12.01-x86_64.iso.1 -L -i 1 archlinux. I do get connected, now, I see only grub saying that in 15 seconds it will start.
23:45 < Minall> If I start normally, nothing will happen, as I need to edit and use the serial console (as I understand)
23:45 < Minall> I press e, however, nothing happens... I'm not sure what am I doing wrong (it just restart the 15 seconds)
23:45 < Minall> echelon o/
23:46 < echelon> pass: -vga std -serial stdio
23:47 < echelon> oh wait, that's qemu not vmm
23:47 < Minall> Was just about to ask where lol
23:49 < echelon> vmctl console <vm-name>
23:49 < echelon> while it's running obviously
23:49 < Minall> Using -c already connects to the VM automaticall
23:50 < Minall> I think using the same console
23:51 < echelon> in grub, i think you need to set.. console=ttyS0,115200
23:51 < Minall> I did that previously successfully for Debian, but now I'm trying archlinux and getting this weird behavior
23:51 < Minall> So I cannot edit in grub
23:52 < echelon> you don't need to edit anything, you just enter it at the grub> prompt
23:52 < JohnGalt> I created a filesytem using bioctl but I need to list whatever is there because I cant remember what device i created it on
23:52 < Minall> echelon Well I entered > And it displays something else
23:52 < JohnGalt> is there a way to list all the devices attached with bioctl?
23:53 < echelon> you entered ">" ?
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23:53 < Minall> What do you mean I just need to enter it a grub> prompt?, I'm not sure in which prompt I am right now... So if I press > I get grub finally
23:53 < Minall> So I see the grub options, like archlinux install medium, run memtest, reboot ,etc.
23:54 < Minall> Though it is a very slow view to select anything
23:54 < Minall> Pressing e doesn't show me aything
23:54 < Minall> So yeah I have the options, but I'm not in the GRUB prompt (nor I'm sure how to display it)
23:55 < echelon> nothing about kernel options?
23:56 < Minall> Nope, just the options part
23:56 < Minall> nothing on pressing e
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23:57 < echelon> > When the boot loader appears, select Boot Arch Linux (<arch>) and press Tab to edit
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23:58 < Minall> Okay, that did somehting,
23:59 < Minall> I see >.com32poweroff.c32
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