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04:13 -!- stuart_ [~stuart@2001:4090:a241:81eb:b11c:8ed0:6981:1be2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:13 -!- stuart [~stuart@2001:4090:a241:81eb:b11c:8ed0:6981:1be2] has joined #openbsd 04:14 < tommyrot> ssh is tcp port 22 so you can apply what you've learned from the faq and write a rule 04:15 < byteskeptical> Chip1972: I mean adding a rule for ssh traffic will probably help but I don't know whether your expecting to incoming connections and those are not working or you attempting to connect out to a remote server, an outgoing connection 04:18 < Chip1972> I already apply a rule, and do not worked 04:18 < byteskeptical> if you want help then share what your expecting to be able to do and the current ruleset your using otherwise I'm not sure how anyone can help 04:21 -!- szilard- [~szilard@1F2EFBAD.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 04:21 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF823.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:21 -!- szilard- is now known as szilard 04:24 -!- stuart_ [~stuart@2001:4091:a245:836b:3827:5113:77a2:2984] has joined #openbsd 04:24 < Chip1972> pass in proto tcp to port 22 04:25 < byteskeptical> this is on your router? 04:26 < byteskeptical> you need to tell is where to go after passing it in. In other words what computer behind your router should pf send this packet too? 04:27 -!- stuart [~stuart@2001:4090:a241:81eb:b11c:8ed0:6981:1be2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:29 < Chip1972> what?... wait.... I need to restart my brain 04:30 < byteskeptical> pass in proto tcp from any to xx.xx.xx.xx port 22 modulate state 04:30 < Chip1972> I want to acess the router with ssh.... 04:31 < byteskeptical> ...I stand by what I said... 04:31 < Chip1972> ok 04:36 < Chip1972> pass in proto tcp from any to 127.0.0.1 port 22 modulate state? 04:36 < thrig> localhost traffic generally doesn't come from anywhere 04:44 < Chip1972> I give up... has been years trying to make this work... I will wait more some months, and then I will try again... 04:45 -!- Lucanis [~lucanis@user/lucanis] has joined #openbsd 04:45 -!- Lucanis_ [~lucanis@user/lucanis] has joined #openbsd 04:46 -!- nn0328 [uid398384@id-398384.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [] 04:49 < Chip1972> at least opnsense make sense.... 04:49 -!- Lucanis [~lucanis@user/lucanis] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:49 -!- OnASnoopPhone [~OnASnoopP@user/OnASnoopPhone] has joined #openbsd 04:51 -!- SiFuh_ [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has joined #openbsd 04:52 -!- SiFuh [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:00 -!- mover [~hischild@user/mover] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:01 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has joined #openbsd 05:04 < Plasmoduck> my thinkpad x1 carbon gen 4 screen flashes on and off several times for about 15 seconds before starting to boot openbsd 05:05 < Plasmoduck> This happens a few seconds after turning it on and after displaying the Lenovo logo 05:08 < Plasmoduck> The notebook has Intel i915 graphics. Do I need to set some kernel parameters? I'm not sure if that would even help, because this is happening before the kernel is even loaded. It's between uefi/bios and kernel loading. As if its trying to figure out which video mode to use. 05:14 < Plasmoduck> The delay suggests the BIOS is having difficulty negotiating the boot process with OpenBSD. It refuses to boot in UEFI mode, it keeps displaying the boot device menu, only Legacy works. 05:15 < Plasmoduck> Some weird graphics driver initialization issue with the OpenBSD bootloader. 05:17 -!- ln43 [~luni@user/ln43] has joined #openbsd 05:17 < Chip1972> try older versions 05:19 -!- jmcgnh [~jmcgnh@wikipedia/jmcgnh] has joined #openbsd 05:20 < thrig> or go through the BIOS options, maybe there's a fast boot option or something 05:24 < Plasmoduck> Yes I am using fastboot. Turning off fastboot enables diagnostic mode, which still does the same thing (hang and screen pulse on/off). 05:27 < Plasmoduck> Chip1972: older versions of what? 05:27 -!- witcher [~witcher@2001:4090:e007:9581:2ccb:bde5:9fda:8751] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:30 -!- ixc [~ixc@user/ixc] has joined #openbsd 05:40 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has joined #openbsd 05:51 < Chip1972> OpenBSD 06:00 -!- Pixi` is now known as Pixi 06:07 -!- akinji [~akinji@user/akinji] has joined #openbsd 06:19 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:20 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 06:24 -!- ivdsangen [~ivo@94-209-18-79.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #openbsd 06:43 -!- Chip1972 [~Chip1972@201.17.211.116] has left #openbsd [] 06:54 -!- JohnGalt [~JohnGalt@user/TechBroLifer] has joined #openbsd 06:59 -!- cpk [~cpk@185.172.87.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:59 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-58-11-158-108.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #openbsd 07:02 -!- yeahitsme [~bob@user/yeahitsme] has joined #openbsd 07:03 -!- cpk [~cpk@185.172.87.163] has joined #openbsd 07:05 -!- JohnGalt [~JohnGalt@user/TechBroLifer] has left #openbsd [ERC 5.6.0.30.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 30.2)] 07:11 -!- jlavsund [~jlavsund@c-85-226-137-56.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #openbsd 07:13 < cgnarne> plasmoduck: did you update your bios? 07:15 < cgnarne> there is nothing OpenBSD can do if this happens before loading the bootloader 07:17 < cgnarne> the loader doesn't do driver init. it's all bios/uefi at this point 07:23 < librecat> what is the default baudrate in openbds 07:23 < cgnarne> for what? 07:23 < librecat> debugging an x86 machine over rs232 07:23 < librecat> im starting by getting a console 07:24 < librecat> qemu says 9600 07:25 < librecat> cgnarne: i found the problem, it needs to be set on boot 07:25 < librecat> it says -1 by default 07:25 < librecat> also i think i have a wiring problem 07:25 < librecat> even after setting both to 9600 its garbled 07:27 < cgnarne> maybe it's still the wrong baud rate? 07:28 -!- uncleyear [~ian@178.66.156.126] has joined #openbsd 07:33 -!- uncleyear [~ian@178.66.156.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:33 -!- witcher [~witcher@2001:4090:e007:9581:4ff:a5fe:11c8:7452] has joined #openbsd 07:34 -!- uncleyear [~ian@178.66.156.126] has joined #openbsd 07:34 < librecat> probably 07:34 < librecat> lemme try standard baudrate on both sides 07:49 -!- km [~km@c978F5BC1.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openbsd 07:51 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:51 -!- ewig [~ewig@user/ewig] has joined #openbsd 07:53 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 07:56 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:57 -!- gh [~bob@user/gh] has joined #openbsd 08:08 -!- SiFuh_ [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21 -!- ramrunner [~dsp@78.141.218.152] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has joined #openbsd 08:24 -!- jlavsund [~jlavsund@c-85-226-137-56.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:30 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:33 -!- stuart_ [~stuart@2001:4091:a245:836b:3827:5113:77a2:2984] has quit [] 08:37 -!- davlefou [~davlefou@2a01:e0a:5f4:4bd0:feb1:5e17:9772:4e6c] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:41 -!- atypicalscholar [~atypicals@5.14.129.65] has joined #openbsd 08:45 -!- emmanuelux [~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:48 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has joined #openbsd 08:50 -!- SiFuh [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has joined #openbsd 08:57 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has joined #openbsd 09:03 -!- davlefou [~davlefou@2a01:e0a:5f4:4bd0:feb1:5e17:9772:4e6c] has joined #openbsd 09:04 -!- atypicalscholar [~atypicals@5.14.129.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:05 -!- atypicalscholar [~atypicals@5.14.129.65] has joined #openbsd 09:08 -!- gh [~bob@user/gh] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3] 09:10 -!- raspbeguy [~raspbeguy@wireguard/tunneler/raspbeguy] has joined #openbsd 09:11 -!- atypicalscholar [~atypicals@5.14.129.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:11 -!- atypicalscholar [~atypicals@5.14.129.65] has joined #openbsd 09:14 -!- cpk [~cpk@185.172.87.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:18 -!- atypicalscholar [~atypicals@5.14.129.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:20 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:23 -!- cpk [~cpk@185.172.87.163] has joined #openbsd 09:30 -!- ramrunner [~dsp@78.141.218.152] has joined #openbsd 09:35 -!- jgh [~jgh@hellmouth.gulag.org.uk] has joined #openbsd 09:36 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has joined #openbsd 09:53 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-58-11-158-108.revip2.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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more things like using a usb serial chip on both sides of the connection but it didnt work 10:31 < librecat> i think i have to learn more about the basics of RS232 on pc's 10:31 < librecat> or serial and uart in general 10:32 < cgnarne> learning is always good :) 10:34 < librecat> cgnarne: yep sometimes you dont want a copy paste solution, you want to learn fundamentals :) 10:34 < cgnarne> this is what i have in the boot.conf of my server https://okturing.com/src/17061/body 10:35 < librecat> hmm so setting com0 baudrate before switching to it is a thing 10:35 < cgnarne> dunno If that matters 10:35 < librecat> cgnarne: does the bootstrap on amd64 detect usb serial devices 10:35 < librecat> why am i even asking you 10:35 < cgnarne> no 10:35 < librecat> brb 5 minutes reading hte source code 10:35 < cgnarne> you need a "real" uart 10:36 < librecat> funny thing btw: i corrupted a bios chip thinking a rs232 looking pinout wasnt related to bios reflashing 10:36 < librecat> expensive board too 10:36 < librecat> it has usb flashback but if i corrupted the firmware of the internal programmer too i will at best lose the serial number :( 10:37 < cgnarne> that sucks :( 10:37 < librecat> well its already corrupted 10:37 < librecat> i should look on the bright side 10:37 < librecat> im gonna have to master flashrom now 10:37 < librecat> incase flashback doesnt work 10:38 < librecat> maybe i take a crack at porting coreboot once the opensil backport to zen1-zen3 is done 10:38 < cgnarne> good luck with that 10:38 < librecat> thanks :) 10:38 < librecat> also i think electrical engineer that is intrested in embedded must know all these well anyway 10:39 < librecat> so i think me willingly playing with serial to debug a openbsd based kernel is amazing for my career 10:39 < librecat> lemme link to the source code of this fork 10:41 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-115-87-152-48.revip4.asianet.co.th] has joined #openbsd 10:41 < librecat> https://git.disroot.org/librecat/hyperbk so you may disagree with the project goals or the whole idea of GPL'ing work we wont be intrested in upstreaming but i like this hyperbola project. basically i got bored waiting for the paid contributor coadde to create the libc fork and decided to poke at the kernel code instead, making it build with gcc 16 port on openbsd :) 10:41 < librecat> it does partially boot on bare metal(it was getting further on the amd machine i bricked today tho) but there are 2-3 panics i need to debug 10:42 < librecat> in qemu it panics in the root mounting function before even trying to mount the root 10:42 < librecat> oh but that build was a RAMDISK kernel without a ramdisk embedded 10:43 < librecat> hmm but still, in qemu even with GENERIC.MP it assumes the root is on softraid0 10:43 < librecat> and on bare metal it panics when my gaming keyboard has 2 subdevices 10:43 < librecat> and on the intel one it panics during acpi 10:43 < librecat> so i got 4 intresting panics to debug and fix by cherry-picking openbsd commits 10:45 < librecat> cgnarne: even if you view hyperbolabsd as a hostile fork i think you can appriciate my love and care into adding features not present in openbsd like making the userspace cross-compile from linux or making the kernel build with gcc 16 by updating their gcc 8.5 fork 10:46 < librecat> i tried porting gdb but due to a reason i couldnt figure out init.c wasnt generating properly(maybe i adapt a patch from the gdb in ports) and the gdb in ports does not recognize the gcc 16 debugging format 10:47 < librecat> cgnarne: i think the reason i do so much work for a project many dislike is because i fit better into small and friendly communities 10:47 -!- MsInput [~MsInput@user/MsInput] has joined #openbsd 10:48 < librecat> when a project is not dead nobody has time to deal with my ideas 10:48 < librecat> anyway im cutting the "why" part 10:48 < cgnarne> i have no opinion about that project. if that is what you enjoy working on, good for you 10:48 < librecat> enjoy the technical stuff i told or tell me to leave 10:48 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 10:49 < librecat> yes i enjoy working on the project 10:49 < librecat> it makes me feel productive 10:49 < librecat> and gives me a hobby fulfilling than video game related development 10:50 < librecat> also its a 3 person overambitious effort so i can actually decide what to work on 10:51 < librecat> for example i can develop skills that non-dead foss projects require from their contributors like sticking with your contribution until its ready 10:52 < librecat> i hope more newer programmers find good foss projects to fit-into 10:52 < librecat> because foss is a super-fulfilling way to grow your skillset 10:52 < librecat> cgnarne: also working on this forked openbsd made me like the original more lol 10:53 < librecat> i learned about the disk and partition tools today 10:53 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has joined #openbsd 10:53 < librecat> fdisk, disklabel, ffs-tools 10:54 < librecat> i used dd and miniroot78.img to have a working boot and used the 3 tools to make a 1gb ffs2 partition to do any kind of kernel testing :) 10:58 < IcePic> librecat: building obsd things with a "foreign" compiler is not really a smart idea, given that obsd does add obsd-specific features to its builds, so you get something that is less obsd even if it runs 10:58 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:59 < librecat> IcePic: thanks for the tip, i will insist that the team uses openbsd llvm 11:00 < librecat> Before i played with gcc i tried a build using whatever openbsd-current came with and it worked first try 11:00 < librecat> interms of compiler errors 11:00 < IcePic> I think people should be free to do whatever they like with source code given out freely of course, but it doesn't take a lot of misunderstandings before someone with a wrongly-built binary (ie, lacking obsd-specific ELF sections for instance) to start reporting it as obsd faults 11:01 < librecat> i just had to supress warnings because with a 2 person kernel team our fork is still based on 7.0 11:01 < librecat> I think that old ancient kernel combined with compilers way newer is the reason for so much breakage 11:01 -!- jupiter126 [~jupiter12@ip-83-99-113-79.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01 < librecat> I was suprised it didnt instantly reboot from some exception 11:01 < IcePic> I don't think the obsd team cares what anyone does with the source, but if it in any way leads to bogus error reports or "there is a zomg-nasty bug in openssh -> look here on rhel!" that eats attention then it is a different matter 11:02 -!- jupiter126 [~jupiter12@ip-83-99-113-79.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openbsd 11:02 < IcePic> ((and to be specific, they care as far as the 2-clause license says you can care) 11:02 < librecat> IcePic: i think the team had purposefully changed the elf format to prevent that from being possible before 11:02 < IcePic> it is not to prevent forks or alien compiles, it is to add features needed at ld.so time 11:03 < IcePic> before the main() is even run 11:03 -!- ln43 [~luni@user/ln43] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:03 < librecat> IcePic: i think hyperbolabsd is different enough for a user to differentiate 11:03 -!- vados [~vados@178-133-60-106.mobile.vf-ua.net] has joined #openbsd 11:04 < IcePic> librecat: in the history of forks from obsd, that is not necessarily true. Might be true as of now for hyperbola 11:04 < librecat> The core team decided to not deal with fixing the openbsd libc and make a adaptation of musl instead 11:04 < librecat> IcePic: i understand your concerns and feel bad 11:05 < librecat> i think only thing i can do for my favorite project is to provide enough documentation to not make users think about going to openbsd for help 11:05 < librecat> but with the current roadmap only the kernel will be openbsd-based 11:05 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has joined #openbsd 11:06 < librecat> the userspace will be fully modular 11:06 < librecat> and using non-openbsd components like bsdutils fork for coreutils 11:06 < librecat> or musl fork for linc 11:06 < librecat> But i think the old notions will stay lingering in users 11:06 < librecat> if you have a suggestion for me please say 11:07 < IcePic> there are some low hanging fruits, like "make sure sendbug doesn't imply you should send to *openbsd.org" and so on to look out for 11:07 < librecat> IcePic: we dont use openbsd userspace:) 11:07 < librecat> at all 11:07 < librecat> userspace is custom built 11:07 < librecat> i think i know something to do 11:07 < librecat> i can replace the entire kernel build system 11:08 < librecat> that way the kernel build process also doesnt have any relation 11:08 < librecat> i think in general redoing work instead of adapting from openbsd will pay off as less users assuming its simillar enougj 11:09 < librecat> i am more motivated to make hyperbola kernel build on macos because then i will be able to strip out all openbsd specific tools 11:10 < librecat> Ok thanks for advice 11:11 < IcePic> well, I only have some of the history from having seen a few forks pass by and seeing all the 'mistakes' that were done 11:11 < librecat> More you would like to list? 11:12 < mischief> there was bitrig for a short time 11:14 < librecat> Hmm maybe general lesson is: do not fork a massive project without proper expectations 11:14 < librecat> It might feel good to say you hard forked linux kernel 11:14 < MsInput> for a moment i thought that someone said bitwig and I thought "no way someone got bitwig to run on openbsd!" lol 11:15 < librecat> But if you dont put proper effort behind that fork you only cause trouble 11:15 < ssm_> bitrig did what it was supposed to. I think. considering we have fuse and clang now 11:15 < ssm_> I wasn't around for it and only know the wikipedia article 11:15 < librecat> i trust the determination of hyperbola 11:16 < librecat> But will anybody use something less usable than dragonfl 11:16 < librecat> i dont think so 11:16 < librecat> nobody even uses the gnu/linux-libre version anymore 11:16 < librecat> To them it makes sense to fork 11:17 < librecat> but to users it makes no sense to fork 11:17 < ssm_> meh I'll put my cards in fourth machines and 9front. I just love stack programming! 11:17 < ssm_> (9front isn't stack programming) 11:18 < librecat> I think the effort is respectable 11:18 < librecat> But the project itself is just not realisti 11:18 < librecat> only 3 developers is just not enough to have forks of some of the biggest codebases in the world 11:19 < librecat> this makes it fun to work on 11:19 < librecat> But unusable 11:20 < librecat> Unless its very uniquely good and assuming they can keep paying for atleast 1 developer it will take atleast 5 years to get off the ground 11:22 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:22 -!- hygo [~hygo@152.249.153.187] has joined #openbsd 11:47 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-115-87-152-48.revip4.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:50 < IcePic> bitrig, mirbsd, aeriebsd spring to mind 11:51 < IcePic> and the hard part is that you either just track upstream and you are basically not a fork but more a relabel, or you get to realize you own libc, compiler, kernel and all that, and that is a truckload of work 11:51 < IcePic> just release engineering is a lot, even if all other parts work fine 11:51 -!- rc [~rc@user/rc] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 11:52 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:52 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 11:55 < IcePic> and what I think a lot of those forks realize is that even if you make it fly somewhat, it is hard to keep a real edge that amkes anyone keep on using it for more than just a short test 11:56 < IcePic> that goes for stuff like Hurd too, you can install it in qemu and run "banner foo" and "ls" but it just feels like a "bad linux", so while microkernels sound fun and all that, it will take a while until your OS is so usable that people choose it over all the other existing options 11:57 < IcePic> you really have to bring something else than just "we string replaced openbsd to " 12:05 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has joined #openbsd 12:06 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@171.6.136.104] has joined #openbsd 12:11 -!- furudera__ [~furudera@user/furudera] has joined #openbsd 12:15 -!- typicat [~iam@user/typicat] has joined #openbsd 12:18 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:18 -!- baz [~baz@user/baz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18 -!- baz_ [~baz@user/baz] has joined #openbsd 12:20 -!- baz_ is now known as baz 12:31 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has joined #openbsd 12:44 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:46 -!- typicat [~iam@user/typicat] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:49 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:50 < Plasmoduck> cgnarne: Sorry for late reply. Yes I updated my bios and the problem persists. I have never had this problem with FreeBSD and Linux. Only after installing OpenBSD. 12:51 -!- Erhard [erhard@user/erhard/x-4737786] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:52 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 12:53 < cgnarne> hmm. then maybe ask on the mailing lists. the chance that someone can help you or has an idea what is happening is probably higher there. 12:53 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has joined #openbsd 12:56 -!- fasecx [~fasecx@79.117.202.144] has joined #openbsd 12:56 -!- Erhard [erhard@user/erhard/x-4737786] has joined #openbsd 13:00 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has joined #openbsd 13:04 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1] 13:10 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:19 -!- mtoy [~mtoy@user/mtoy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:20 -!- mtoy [~mtoy@user/mtoy] has joined #openbsd 13:27 -!- MsInput [~MsInput@user/MsInput] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1] 13:32 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:45 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:53 -!- vados [~vados@178-133-60-106.mobile.vf-ua.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:59 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@171.6.136.104] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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OpenBSD doesn't allow mixing UEFI with MBR or BIOS + GPT. You need MBR partitions for BIOS and GPT for UEFI. Please redo the install and see if it works any better? 16:05 -!- ZLima12_ [~zlima12@user/meow/ZLima12] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:08 -!- duckworld [~duckworld@user/duckworld] has joined #openbsd 16:12 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 16:13 -!- k2patel [~k2patel@user/k2patel] has joined #openbsd 16:16 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.109.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:20 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 16:24 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24 -!- vados [~vados@178-133-60-106.mobile.vf-ua.net] has joined #openbsd 16:24 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has joined #openbsd 16:24 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 -!- lavaball [~lavaball@31.204.155.215] has joined #openbsd 16:29 -!- hygo [~hygo@152.249.153.187] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3] 16:38 -!- Kruppt [~Kruppt@user/Kruppt] has joined #openbsd 16:44 < k2patel> Happy New Year!!! 16:45 < buinb> Thank you! Such beautiful colors 16:46 < phy1729> The festivities are/(were) in #libera-newyears 16:49 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 16:55 -!- ln43 [~luni@user/ln43] has joined #openbsd 17:02 -!- xse [~xse@krkrkr.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02 -!- xse [~xse@krkrkr.org] has joined #openbsd 17:12 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has joined #openbsd 17:18 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:21 -!- bigato_ [~bigato@170.81.149.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:25 -!- vezhlys [~Andrius@cl-78-158-15-20.fastlink.lt] has joined #openbsd 17:29 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30 -!- jadi [~jadi@node-1w7jr9quqz0secfnvnf4moxbt.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #openbsd 17:37 -!- NashRespect [~NashRespe@user/NashRespect] has joined #openbsd 17:38 -!- NashRespect [~NashRespe@user/NashRespect] has left #openbsd [] 17:38 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.95] has joined #openbsd 17:38 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has joined #openbsd 17:38 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 17:43 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:2b00::1c19] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:46 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:54 -!- padeksist [~padeksist@2001:16e0:207:de00:ee7c:8599:cebf:a8f7] has joined #openbsd 17:54 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 17:55 -!- ipod420 [~solo@user/ipod420] has joined #openbsd 18:01 -!- def [~feeeee@aannecy-651-1-433-239.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:02 -!- padeksist [~padeksist@2001:16e0:207:de00:ee7c:8599:cebf:a8f7] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1] 18:03 -!- vezhlys [~Andrius@cl-78-158-15-20.fastlink.lt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04 -!- vezhlys [~Andrius@cl-78-158-15-20.fastlink.lt] has joined #openbsd 18:09 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.95] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10 -!- earthwormjim [~earthworm@user/earthwormjim] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:15 -!- Poltawer [~xt003@user/Poltawer] has joined #openbsd 18:27 -!- oxzi [~oxzi@marohu.lurk.space] has quit [Quit: WeeChat] 18:27 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:34 < SiFuh> Heh I have in my fstab some entries for /usr /usr/local and /usr/local/X11R6. Two each. One said rw and the other says ro. When I comment out the ro (Which is below the rw) it mounts it ro, ignoring the comment '#'. But if I move the commented line above the rw one, it mounts as rw. 18:34 < SiFuh> During bootup that is 18:35 < IcePic> man fstab says # should be ignored 18:36 < IcePic> at least if it is the first char of the line 18:37 < SiFuh> It should be 18:37 < SiFuh> But I noticed a few months back but never really bothered with it. So yeah, really curious now 18:39 -!- r0ss [~r0ss@2a06:5906:1e14:4900:60ae:289e:e50:1359] has joined #openbsd 18:41 < r0ss> Hi - I'm trying to create some custom mime types in my httpd conf but failing to make any difference - I'm on 7.5 can anyone point to a conf snippet that is working for them? Thanks! 18:41 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:43 -!- ln43 [~luni@user/ln43] has quit [Quit: Connection severed.] 18:47 -!- oxzi [~oxzi@marohu.lurk.space] has joined #openbsd 18:53 -!- a2800276 [~a2800276@freeshell.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:55 < byteskeptical> r0ss: care to share what you have now? 19:02 -!- Lucas_ [~Lucas@moon.lgv5.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 19:07 < r0ss> server "example.com" {alias "www.example.com" listen on * port 80 } types { application/atom+xml atom xml text/html html htm ... application/edn txt } 19:07 < r0ss> whoops hit return on that by accident - was in the process of putting it in some kind of pastebin - sigh 19:09 -!- derpadmin [~Anonymous@78.240.142.149] has joined #openbsd 19:10 < r0ss> https://pastebin.com/5S6ecsAT 19:12 -!- Lucas_ [~Lucas@moon.lgv5.net] has joined #openbsd 19:12 -!- derpadmin [~Anonymous@78.240.142.149] has quit [Client Quit] 19:12 < byteskeptical> technically within the three line limit but assuming your formatting is compelete just move it out of the server block to the top of your conf file, check it with `httpd -n` 19:14 < byteskeptical> not sure what you think your hiding but incomplete information begets incomplete solutions 19:18 -!- ln43 [~luni@user/ln43] has joined #openbsd 19:19 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:2b00::1c19] has joined #openbsd 19:23 -!- ivdsangen [~ivo@94-209-18-79.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:30 -!- Lotsen [~lotsen@user/Lotsen] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31 -!- Lotsen [~lotsen@user/Lotsen] has joined #openbsd 19:33 -!- fro [fro@humpty.dance] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37 -!- Kruppt [~Kruppt@user/Kruppt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:44 -!- fro [fro@humpty.dance] has joined #openbsd 19:51 < r0ss> @byteskeptical thanks for the heads up - I've moved it to the top and reloaded - but unfrotunately no change, have also removed the elided section in the types declaration: https://pastebin.com/5S6ecsAT 20:03 -!- ewig [~ewig@user/ewig] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:05 -!- Bamby72 [~Bamby72@host-95-238-27-28.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openbsd 20:07 -!- Bamby72 [~Bamby72@host-95-238-27-28.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #openbsd [] 20:08 -!- zcram [~zcram@user/zcram] has quit [Quit: Do the right thing.] 20:09 -!- abcba [~abcba@77.79.169.133.dynamic.ufanet.ru] has joined #openbsd 20:16 < byteskeptical> r0ss: no change to what? how or which mime type are you testing? what doesn httpd -n or rcctl -d restart httpd say? 20:19 < r0ss> httpd -n passes syntax ok, restart works fine but my curl -i tells me everything is application/octet-stream 20:22 < gipa> r0ss: did you try to move the types block at the end? (after the server block) 20:23 -!- nature [~nature@125.215.199.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:24 < r0ss> Yes I started with it at the bottom 20:25 < r0ss> I've also tried to import the /usr/share/misc/mime.types file - definitely doing something wrong 20:25 -!- abcba [~abcba@77.79.169.133.dynamic.ufanet.ru] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:25 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has joined #openbsd 20:26 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #openbsd 20:28 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EFBAD.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28 -!- moviuro_ is now known as moviuro 20:28 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EFBAD.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 20:30 -!- AbsolutelyFree [~Absolutel@user/AbsolutelyFree] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:30 -!- jonf [~jjf@dhcp-67-146-47-162.gobrightspeed.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:31 < thrig> https://thrig.me/tmp/types.txt 20:31 -!- jonf_ [~jonf@dhcp-67-146-47-162.gobrightspeed.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:32 -!- jonf [~jjf@163.5.171.92] has joined #openbsd 20:33 -!- jonf_ [~jonf@163.5.171.92] has joined #openbsd 20:36 -!- furudera__ [~furudera@user/furudera] has joined #openbsd 20:37 -!- jonf_ [~jonf@163.5.171.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37 -!- jonf_ [~jonf@163.5.171.92] has joined #openbsd 20:39 -!- mexen [uid495612@user/mexen] has joined #openbsd 20:40 -!- fasecx [~fasecx@79.117.202.144] has joined #openbsd 20:41 -!- MsInput [~MsInput@user/MsInput] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1] 20:44 -!- bountyht [arelor@triton.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openbsd 20:48 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:48 -!- stuart [~stuart@2001:4091:a245:836b:3827:5113:77a2:2984] has joined #openbsd 20:49 -!- bountyht [arelor@triton.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:51 -!- gh [~bob@user/gh] has joined #openbsd 20:53 -!- bountyht [arelor@triton.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openbsd 20:56 -!- vados [~vados@178-133-60-106.mobile.vf-ua.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:56 < vortexx> r0ss: is there any particular reason you haven't upgraded from 7.5? 20:58 < buinb> vortexx, not enough space anymore on /usr because of relink;p 21:01 -!- user_ [arelor@triton.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openbsd 21:01 < r0ss> no - purely lack of time/attention to it - no other reason I am aware of 21:02 -!- ln43 [~luni@user/ln43] has quit [Quit: Connection severed.] 21:03 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 21:04 -!- jonf__ [~jonf@dhcp-67-146-47-162.gobrightspeed.net] has joined #openbsd 21:04 -!- jonf___ [~jjf@dhcp-67-146-47-162.gobrightspeed.net] has joined #openbsd 21:04 < vortexx> might be better to upgrade if you can find a moment, there's been plenty of vulnerabilities in the last 18 months and your version no longer receives patches 21:04 -!- jonf_ [~jonf@163.5.171.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:05 -!- jonf [~jjf@163.5.171.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:05 -!- jonf__ is now known as jonf 21:06 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07 -!- user_ [arelor@triton.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Quit: Maintenance] 21:07 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #openbsd 21:07 < r0ss> thanks for the reminder 21:08 -!- grain779 [~grain77@user/grain77] has joined #openbsd 21:10 -!- grain77 [~grain77@user/grain77] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:10 -!- grain779 is now known as grain77 21:11 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 21:13 -!- bountyht [arelor@triton.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:14 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 21:15 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 21:16 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-58-11-158-108.revip2.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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