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01:30 < waks> According to: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Bridge "PF can be used to restrict what traffic goes through a bridge. Keep in mind, by the nature of a bridge, the same data flows through both interfaces, so filtering is only needed on one interface."
01:31 < waks> This is not the behaviour I'm seeing. In order to get my pf config to work I had to manually specify each bridge interface instead of just bridge0: https://bpa.st/GYAQ
01:31 < waks> When monitoring pflog if I tried to ping out to 1.1.1.1 for example I would see it blocking the request because it came from igc1, not bridge0
01:39 < mischief> try veb and filter on vport
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09:42 < sinvet> oldlaptop: heres I turned one book into audio, if you wanna talk about it come to #openbsd-social https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/9d3a4da8-818a-4aeb-a217-59deb8d2a068
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09:47 < quinq> I don't want to move to Switzerland
09:51 < cgnarne> but they have the best cheese
09:52 < quinq> Correction, they have *some* good cheese :)
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10:30 < anthk_> morning quinq 
10:36 < quinq> Hi anthk_ :)
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12:23 < librecat> gm everyone
12:23 < JetpackJackson> Hello
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12:38 < hmj6502> hiii
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13:51 < vortexx> quinq: pretty good cheeses in Switzerland, not the choice and variety that you get in France but still, better than nearly all other countries
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17:25  * oldlaptop is more impressed by Swiss computer-maintenance pocket tools
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17:30 < thrig> as used by https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/the-swiss-pikemen/
17:32 < quinq> jaja
17:34 < thrig> pikemen of course would be followers of Rob Pike
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18:04 < housemate> can containerised virtualisation be accomplished on bsd?
18:04 < housemate> like linux's lxcs..?
18:04 < sinvet> housemate: yeas but might be too slow for your taste
18:04 < housemate> I see.
18:04 < housemate> okay.
18:04 < housemate> thanks.
18:05 < sinvet> housemate: no worries, just not forget, slow is sometimes beneficial, especially in multiplayer FPS capped games. You just go in slowmo
18:06 < housemate> lol
18:19 < shinbeth> oldlaptop: yeah they are impressive
18:21 < quinq> Which one(s)?
18:21 < sinvet> swiss army knife
18:23 < quinq> I don't think that's what they're talking about
18:23 < quinq> Those are kiddies toys
18:26 < sinvet> quinq: Ducati made one even has gnomish defibrilator there, perhaps you are not looking at the right tools.
18:27 < sinvet> most best tool in default swiss army blade is nail care instrument
18:28 < sinvet> anyways I advise to stick to the rules and go to #openbsd-social, this channel is not for chitchatting
18:28 < quinq> Yeah if your idea of the best tool is a nail care blade, then I suppose we have different standards ^^
18:28 < quinq> Na don't worry, it's ok, no other conversation is going on right now, it's not preventing people to talk
18:29 < sinvet> Ducati one has a handsaw though if you catch my drift, most humble one is original swiss army blade
18:30 < quinq> I wouldn't call this a computer-maintenance tool, but then again we might have different standards :D
18:31 < sinvet> what if the computer has venomous vines around it and you dont even have handsaw > how do you enter disk drive encryption key if ze keyboard is all in vines ?
18:32 < quinq> Well, you take ayahuasca and dive deep into the computer circuitry
18:32 < sinvet> quinq: could work, but IMHO overrated or are you using flipper zero and wireless usb dongle to guess ze password while driving under the influence ?
18:33 < quinq> I could use the magnifier from the swiss army knife
18:34 < sinvet> quinq: am I the only one here who cares about ze rules ? /join #openbsd-social
18:36 < quinq> Yeah Walter, I don't see too much people complaining, also I'm not socializing
18:36 < quinq> But sure, let's stop there
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18:49 < shinbeth> quinq: dude there are ways, you don't wanna know about them and this is not Nam, there are rules
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20:22 < supaman> </offtopic>
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23:21 < deimosBSD> I have the dumbest pf problem, traffic in to allowed ports works fine. i can't get anything out from the server (like host example.com) lookups, ping6 to the router. 
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23:21 < deimosBSD> I have "pass out on $ext_if proto { tcp udp icmp6 } all modulate state" and $ext_if is defined as the only interface on the system (other than lo)
23:21 < deimosBSD> this is an ipv6-only machine
23:22 < deimosBSD> i can ssh into the host just fine. but i can't ssh out to another host
23:22 < deimosBSD> pflog shows nothing blocked
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23:28 < dg> have you enabled the ipv6 forwarding sysctl? (net.inet6.ip6.forwarding)
23:28 < sibiria> let neighbor-discovery messages in, or ipv6 usually won't work
23:29 < sibiria> neighbor advertisement, neighbor solicitation, and router advertisement
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23:30 < sibiria> that's icmp6 types 134, 135 and 136
23:30 < deimosBSD> indeed
23:30 < deimosBSD> let me paste the config somewhere sane
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23:31 < sibiria> will be coming from the link-local network
23:31 < deimosBSD> i use the same template pf.local everywhere. for some reason this isn't allowing packets out from the host, only in
23:31 < sibiria> it won't know where to send anything if neighbor-discovery isn't working
23:31 < oldlaptop> If you don't consider the /topic suggestions sane I'd be interested in suggestions
23:31 < sibiria> it's the ipv6 equivalent to ARP (roughly)
23:32 < deimosBSD> oldlaptop: it's more i can't see the whole topic ;)
23:32 < deimosBSD> dg: no
23:33 < sibiria> you shouldn't need to if you're not routing traffic from a LAN behind that machine
23:33 < sibiria> re: "the only interface"
23:33 < deimosBSD> that's my thought too, just a simple host
23:34 < sibiria> thus, let the necessary ND messages in
23:35 < sibiria> pass in quick on $ext_if inet6 proto icmp6 from fe80::/10 icmp6-type { 134 135 136 }
23:35 < sibiria> or so
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23:37 < sibiria> you might need to down/up (or netstart) the interface again to give it a hint to start discovery again
23:42 < vortexx> oldlaptop: were you thinking of the swiss army knife "cybertool" aka a pocket knife with quite a variety of screwdriver heads? Mine got picked up going through TSA, sadly
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23:43  * oldlaptop has wanted one of those for a while, but *has* done laptop motherboard swaps with the 58mm-frame Phillips
23:44 < vortexx> they've been around for circa 20 years, maybe more
23:44 < vortexx> I need to buy a new one
23:44 < vortexx> if just for the corkscrew as well as the screwdriver
23:45 < deimosBSD> after pfctl -F all -f /etc/pf.conf, now it's working
23:45 < vortexx> deimosBSD: deimosBSD: not certain about this but I think you need inet6 before proto if you're doing ipv6 only
23:45 < deimosBSD> quantum state problem or something ;)
23:46 < vortexx> or cosmic ray
23:46 < sibiria> if you omit the AF, the rule will expand to both inet and inet6 when possible
23:46 < vortexx> ah, wasn't sure about that. Thanks sibiria 
23:46 < vortexx> but if doing one AF only maybe it's best to be explicit
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23:56 < vortexx> if you're wondering, this is the swiss army knife in question: https://techstudio.ch/products/victorinox-taschenmesser-cyber-tool-l-39-funktionen-metallfeile-bit-schlussel-kugelschreiber-za
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23:56 < vortexx> does a whole lot more than just just cutting or screwing
23:57 < vortexx> although this one isn't in the sexy blue colour
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23:58 < vortexx> (it may have been discontinued, looking elsewhere)
23:59 < vortexx> and yes I have used this for changing hardware on OpenBSD systems
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