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02:25 < pardis> ssm_: thank you for mentioning duskOS, this is relevant to my interests and I had not heard of it before
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09:54 < moviuro> sorry, my logs have failed me. I recently discussed here unbound(8) listening on multiple rdomains, and the proposed solution was to use some pf magic. I found out how to do that (pass in on $some_if inet proto { tcp udp } to (self) port domain rdr-to ($other_if) rtable $unbound), but I also opened a Feature Request to the unbound dev team: https://github.com/NLnetLabs/unbound/issues/1393
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15:48 < LinuxRenaissance> test
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15:50 < byteskeptical> icles
15:50 < phy1729> byteskeptical: grow up
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15:54 < madr> phy1729: try to let a little fun into your life
15:55 < phy1729> Just not in this channel
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16:07 < Bradipo> Looking for clever way in vi to do something like this...
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16:08 < Bradipo> ":g/pattern/y" followed by a "p" somewhere else such that it pastes all lines that matched that.
16:08 < Bradipo> Unfortunately it only pastes the last line...
16:08 < humm> can you use m inside g?
16:08 < humm> or t
16:09 < phy1729> Use an upper case register to append
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16:10 < Bradipo> Hmm, ok, that sounds promising.
16:11 < phy1729> Guess they aren't called registers in vi(1)
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16:13 < humm> I think :g/pattern/t/somewhere else/ ahould just work
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16:17 < byteskeptical> I think you may be able to :g/pattern/t$ 
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16:32 < byteskeptical> phy1729: I'm trying but point taken
16:37 < Bradipo> phy1729: No, they aren't, but I understood what you meant.
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16:54 < Bradipo> humm: Yes, what is t ?
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16:54 < Bradipo> I looked at vi(1) and wasn't able to find what command that is...
16:55 < Bradipo> byteskeptical: Yes, that works to place the matched text at the end of the file...
16:55 < phy1729> t is an alias for copy
16:56 < Bradipo> Ahh, it's pu[t]
16:56 < Bradipo> lol, I was looking in the t (alphabetically), but it's actually the pu[t] command.
16:56 < Bradipo> So the command is in the p's.
16:57 < Bradipo> Oh, no, I'm wrong...
16:57 < Bradipo> That [t] isn't the command abbreviation, it's just the tail end of the pu command.
16:57 < Bradipo> No wonder it's so stinky.
16:57 < phy1729> it's under copy
16:58 < Bradipo> Ok, let me look.
16:58 < Bradipo> It is indeed.
16:59 < Bradipo> Still, I wonder why I cannot yank into a buffer.
16:59 < Bradipo> It seems to yank just the last match of the /range/
16:59 < Bradipo> Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
17:00 < Bradipo> Oh, yank is probably happening one at a time, and not appending.
17:00 < Bradipo> I need a way to append to the buffer.
17:02 < Bradipo> Or, maybe I've found a bug...
17:03 < Bradipo> It seems from the documentation that want I want should be accomplished simply by doing: :g/^1/ya o
17:03 < Bradipo> The documentation clearly states:
17:03 < Bradipo>      [range] ya[nk] [buffer] [count]
17:03 < Bradipo>              Copy the specified lines to a buffer.
17:04 < Bradipo> "copy the specified *lines*"
17:04 < thrig> except g happens multiple distinct times
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17:04 < Bradipo> Hmm.
17:04 < Bradipo> That's kind of what I was wondering...
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17:05 < Bradipo> So we need a YA[NK] that appends to the buffer instead of overwriting the buffer. :-)
17:07 < Bradipo> What I really want is: :g/range/d
17:07 < Bradipo> And then to be able to use p to put the deleted lines somewhere else.
17:08 < Bradipo> I guess the closest I can get at this point is to mark some lines, use: :'a,'bg/pattern/t/somewhere/ and then :'a,'bd
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17:11 < phy1729> :g/^1/y A
17:11 < phy1729> or I guess you were putting it in o so /y O
17:11 < Bradipo> Is that a thing, or just wishful thinking?
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17:12 < phy1729> "Buffers named `a' through `z' may be referred to using their uppercase equivalent, in which case new content will be appended to the buffer, instead of replacing it."
17:12 < byteskeptical> Bradipo: what phy1729 suggests with the capital will work
17:12 < Bradipo> I was just looking through the man page for that, lol.
17:12 < Bradipo> Sweet!
17:13 < Bradipo> Ok, no need to patch vi after all.  Thanks.
17:13 < Bradipo> I still think vi(1) is the best editor.  Sometimes one has to draw out it's virtues, but they exist.
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17:14 < phy1729> https://www.ele.uri.edu/faculty/vetter/Other-stuff/vi/009.part1.html is a classic and iirc where I first learned the uppercase thing
17:19 < Bradipo> This is also why I cannot use vim... too many things that I use don't work correctly.
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19:20 < MsInput> mistakes were made... I ran out of space on my vps, it was all logs. I deleted everything in /var/log/ .... I think I should not have done that because now some services seem really unhappy 
19:21 < supaman> MsInput: restarting the services does not make them happy?
19:22 < MsInput> so far I've tried rebooting the vps and the only log showing up again is pflog
19:22 < phy1729> Did you mess with /etc/syslog.conf?
19:22 < MsInput> nope just removed the entire contents of /var/log/
19:22 < SiFuh>  : > /var/log/<MF huge log file>
19:23 < SiFuh> Since the log file is being used, it is best to truncate and not remove them completely
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19:24 < MsInput> yeah... mistakes were surely made... I mean... the good news is that it's not Mission Critical Life Will Be Horrible Now levels of bad
19:24 < MsInput> it's just ... I'd rather not start fresh haha
19:25 < lts> Would you have a moment for our lord and saviour newsyslog and its log rotation?
19:25 < phy1729> In general if you remove something you shouldn't you can "upgrade" to the same version, but it sounds like you shouldn't need that.
19:26 < SiFuh> MsInput: You can find the culprit and edit syslog.conf which phy1729 referred to or find out why it is filling up and try to solve the issue there.
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19:26 < MsInput> well it's empty now and I know why it was filled
19:26 < SiFuh> lts: newsyslog -F   :-)
19:26 < MsInput> I just was a bit too heavy handed
19:26 < MsInput> "who cares it's just logs I never look at"
19:27 < SiFuh> MsInput: I did that once years and years ago but after I deleted it even though the log didn't exist it solved nothing and was still chewing up more and more space.
19:28 < MsInput> oh in this case I know what's wrong - it was all bot spam hitting me and I enabled sshguard and it caused _more_ logging
19:28 < SiFuh> MsInput: My server logs just go straight to a line printer.
19:28 < MsInput> I do see in syslog.conf
19:29 < supaman> its a bit baffling that only pflog is showing up, no /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon which should appear on boot
19:29 < MsInput> I mean... I see the names of logs in there, so I could probably just touch those
19:29 < MsInput> supaman: yeah I thought those would just reappear
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19:30 < SiFuh> MsInput: Not everything PF does needs to be logged 
19:30 < MsInput> SiFuh: yeah... and authlog need not be so verbose tbh
19:30 < MsInput> it's not like I was learning anything from it
19:31 < MsInput> I think I'll go through syslog.conf and try adding some empty log files
19:31 < SiFuh> I have OCTV (Which I call them) that are suppose to be CCTV. Ever camera and the DVR spam every second the firewall. So I just put their entire VLAN on silent. No logging.  
19:32 < sibiria> imo logging blocked packets is like looking out the window to keep an eye on who walks past on the street. pointless effort except in some extreme case
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19:32 < SiFuh> sibiria: Agreed
19:33 < SiFuh> sibiria: Besides, I've got an OCTV that does that :-P 
19:33 < phy1729> When I got really bored I'd watch the pflogs and send emails to abuse contacts. It's not a terribly productive use of time.
19:34 < SiFuh> Heh
19:35 < sibiria> exhausting, even
19:36 < MsInput> my goal was to try blocking spam bots, but in hindsight... 
19:36 < MsInput> lessons learned
19:36 < thrig> the logging might go to a rrd database or other such summarizing thingymabobber
19:36 < SiFuh> sibiria: I don't need to look out the window. OpenBSD launches a small C program that opens the cameras on my desktop. :-P
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19:37 < SiFuh> MsInput: You can block and no log. 
19:38 < sibiria> drop, forget, be happy
19:38 < MsInput> well yeah but I thought having logs I could keep a list of top offenders or something haha... yeah lessons learned. still learning more right now
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19:44 < SiFuh> MsInput: You did reboot right?
19:44 < MsInput> yep 
19:44 < MsInput> adding /var/log/{messages,daemon,authlog,secure} did allow some services to start starting... hahaha that's... something
19:45 < SiFuh> Okay. Basically what I understand is by removing the log files that are being used by a particular process it doesn't do much because the inode is still active. 
19:45 < SiFuh> Hence truncating is your better option.
19:46 < MsInput> right. honestly I could have just got rid of the zipped older logs, that would have sorted out my space issue at least long enough to do more looking around
19:47 < SiFuh> Well, what's done is done. Just keep it in mind in case it ever happens again.
19:48 < MsInput> indeed!
19:49 < MsInput> I had just recently started using radicale and I guess it's better that I figured out some things before I began relying on it heavily
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19:55 < MsInput> well hey I got radicale back up so that's somethin
19:55 < MsInput> gonna take some more poking before I get gitea back 
19:57 < SiFuh> Wonder what ever happened to passstab. He hasn't been back since his firefox issue with out hardware acceleration.
19:57 < supaman> oh, were you on the mailing list asking about using OpenBSD as a backup server?
19:58 < MsInput> not I - haven't been on a bsd list in decades 
19:58 < supaman> ok
19:59 < MsInput> I can't even blame misinputs for this one, I typed it on purpose
20:00 < MsInput> thanks y'all - hooray for learning lessons the hard way... story of my life tbh haha
20:07 < Bradipo> Is there a decent way to boot an ISO image from DHCP/PXE/tftpd ?
20:10 < supaman> Bradipo: first step might be to read man pxeboot (don't know myself, but seems simple enough)
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20:27 < MsInput> if anyone was wondering - pkg_add is nothing short of magical, I was able to reinstall gitea - the reinstall had some issues, but pkg_add kept a partial install (called partial-gitea) and when I was able to resolve those issues I could finish the install
20:27 < MsInput> the reinstall put the logs back in order as they needed to be and now my service is back 
20:33 < MsInput> and luckily since I only ruined /var/log, all my stuff was still where it needed to be in order for the service to run. when in doubt, read an OpenBSD man page. if I ever got a tattoo that might be it
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21:03 < cgnarne> Bradipo: look at ipxe https://forum.ipxe.org/showthread.php?tid=3728
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22:44 < Bradipo> cgnarne: Yeah, that posting is from 2012... hopefully it's still relevant. :-)
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23:55 < ssm_> update on blurry x11 integer scaling: switched from using monitor modes to running `xrandr --output blah --scale 2 --filter nearest` at the start of xenodm/Xsetup_0, and everything is nice and crispy now :)
23:55 < ssm_> s/2/0.5/
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