--- Log opened Thu Jan 22 00:00:16 2026
--- Day changed Thu Jan 22 2026
00:00 < Bradipo> tcpdump -n -v -i vlan5
00:01 < Bradipo> Does traffic pass between the 2 VLANs/subnets when pf is not enabled?
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00:02 < deepesttoaster> hmmm so I only see arp requests and sstp rstp config items
00:02 < deepesttoaster> 16:01:25.810300 arp who-has 192.168.5.12 tell 192.168.5.1
00:02 < deepesttoaster> 16:01:26.154139 SSTP RSTP config flags=3c<LEARNING,FORWARDING> role=DESIGNATED root=8005.d4:ad:bd:38:7a:80 rootcost=0 bridge=8005.d4:ad:bd:38:7a:80 port=48 ifcost=128 age=0/0 max=20/0 hello=2/0 fwdelay=15/0
00:03 < deepesttoaster> I've not disabled pf, pretty sure that will break my internet access and everything?
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00:04 < Bradipo> Depends on how things are working through pf.
00:04 < JetpackJackson> Is there a way to copy the results and dependencies of a port out of a VM to a Computer that doesn't have internet access?
00:04 < Bradipo> USB thumbdrive?
00:05 < deepesttoaster> I guess I'll pfctl -d and see what happens. Might drop and be back XD
00:05 < Bradipo> Before you do that...
00:05 < Bradipo> Can you ping devices on each VLAN from OpenBSD?
00:05 < deepesttoaster> and yeah, to get stuff from a vm without network access thumbdrives are the most convenient
00:05 < deepesttoaster> No, OpenBSD can't ping things within the vlans
00:06 < JetpackJackson> deepesttoaster, Bradipo: ok thanks
00:06 < deepesttoaster> things on the lan and in wireguard can ping openbsd including the openbsd IP's for the gateway of the different vlans
00:09 < Bradipo> Oh, so from the LANs you can ping OpenBSD?
00:10 < deepesttoaster> only from the main LAN not from the vlans
00:10 < Bradipo> JetpackJackson: Does it have 0 network access?
00:10 < deepesttoaster> also from the wireguard vpn but I'm not sure how much of wireguard is working is just because wireguard is magic lol
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00:15 < Bradipo> So if you start a PING from a device in the LAN to your OpenBSD, do you see the traffic in tcpdump?
00:23 < JetpackJackson> Bradipo: correct, the WiFi chip doesnt work on openbsd
00:23 < deepesttoaster> If I start a ping from <lan> to OpenBSD I get ping replies. If I ping from <vlan5> to OpenBSD I do NOT get ping replies. Neither shows up when I tcpdump monitoring vlan5 even if I ping the IP OpenBSD has for the interface of vlan5
00:24 < Bradipo> If you aren't seeing the packets with tcpdump... are you sure you don't have another device with the same IP on it?
00:25 < Bradipo> Is <lan> not another VLAN?
00:25 < deepesttoaster> I was right until I was typing the reply to you... if that's the case I'm going to go cry in shame...
00:26 < deepesttoaster> <lan> is the subnet associated with the em1 interface itself
00:28 < Bradipo> Shouldn't that be another VLAN?
00:28 < Bradipo> I don't know the answer to that... :-)
00:29 < Bradipo> But it's working I suppose...
00:30 < Bradipo> But you aren't able to PING 192.168.5.1 from the VLAN 5 network?
00:30 < deepesttoaster> Confirmed that there is no other device with that IP
00:30 < deepesttoaster> correct, not able to ping 192.168.5.1 from the vlan5 network
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00:31 < Bradipo> Which is odd, because you're seeing the traffic in tcpdump.
00:31 < Bradipo> 16:01:25.810300 arp who-has 192.168.5.12 tell 192.168.5.1
00:32 < Bradipo> Well, I guess that's your OpenBSD router sending out a packet.
00:32 < deepesttoaster> that who has is an arp request from 5.1 isn't it?
00:32 < deepesttoaster> so it's seeing the arp request from itself and not seeing a reply
00:32 < Bradipo> And the switch is configured correctly for the VLAN tagging?
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00:33 < neophyte> where is 5.12
00:33 < Bradipo> Because I'm not sure how you can have a LAN subnet on em1 and also a VLAN subnet on a VLAN...
00:33 < Bradipo> That means em1 is plugged into a non-tagged port?
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00:34 < Bradipo> Presumably 5.12 was on vlan5 since that's where had tcpdump running.
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00:36 < deepesttoaster> em1 is plugged into a trunk port, that switch port wouldn't tag the traffic, but 5.12 being on a different switch port with only vlan5 should be tagged?
00:36 < deepesttoaster> em1 is in switch port ge1/0/48
00:36 < deepesttoaster> 5.12 is in ge1/0/5
00:37 < Bradipo> So if em1 is plugged into a trunk port... how does em1 have a LAN?  native vlan?
00:38 < Bradipo> I'm just wondering how em1 works at all if it's plugged into a trunk port and you aren't using a separate vlan ID for that subnet.
00:38 < Bradipo> em1 is in a switch port that is a trunk.  What VLAN is em1 on?
00:39 < deepesttoaster> It should be vlan1 the default
00:39 < Bradipo> VLAN5 is 192.168.5.1... what's the IP that you're using on em1 and what VLAN is it supposed to be on?
00:39 < deepesttoaster> 192.168.1.1 is em1
00:39 < Bradipo> I guess I'm wondering why you didn't configure /etc/hostname.vlan1 for that...
00:40 < Bradipo> At any rate, you cannot even ping on VLAN 5... so that needs to be resolved first I imagine.
00:40 < Bradipo> Also, take what I say with a grain of salt because I haven't actually ever configured OpenBSD on a trunk port. :-)
00:41 < deepesttoaster> I take everything you say as gospel, you are the king of the internet ;-)
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00:46  * Bradipo looks for a managed switch...
00:48 < deepesttoaster> I can try changing em1 to have no IP and create an explicit vlan1
00:49 < deepesttoaster> probably going to drop while I test a few things...
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03:18 < Bradipo> deepesttoaster: Any luck?
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14:57 < vortexx> I need to mount via webdav protocol a share on an openbsd box, what are my options?
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15:06 < miah> cadaver seems to be the only option
15:07 < jca> cadaver doesn't seem to act like a fuse filesystem
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15:09 < jca> NetBSD has a wdfs port, FreeBSD has a webdavfs port
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15:09 < jca> but wdfs seems unmaintained
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15:14 < mischief> vortexx: rclone!
15:17 < vortexx> mischief: last time I looked rclone can't mount webdav shares on OpenBSD
15:18 < vortexx> looking at cadaverm that can't do it either
15:18 < vortexx> s/cadaverm/cadaver
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15:26 < vortexx> Error: unknown command "mount" for "rclone"
15:30 < mischief> hmmmmm
15:33 < thrig> just use zfsctl to load it up
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15:35 < k0ga> win 16
15:35 < k0ga> ups
15:36 < mischief> it might work with a small patch, i'm checking
15:36 < jca> that would be nice!
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15:38 < mischief> it builds with just this https://0x0.st/s/rk67C_RJMLetycJ9AE0IvA/PP_I.diff
15:38 < mischief> let me see if i can mount sshfs with it or something
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15:43 < mischief2> that was unfortunate
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15:43 < mischief2> i think i oom'd my router building go crap
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15:45 < jca> oops
15:46 < mischief> rclone:/usr/lib/libfuse.so.2.0: undefined symbol '__sF'
15:46 < mischief> thats not good
15:46 < mischief> oh, somehow i have a stale library file
15:47 < IcePic> was some fuse commits just recently
15:49 < jca> libfuse.so.2.0 is pre opaque FILE, 2025/07/16
15:49 < mischief> oh dear
15:49 < mischief> its hard coded
15:49 < mischief> https://github.com/winfsp/cgofuse/blob/7d90b099247151dd4faf198cd53ad433f0ae9932/fuse/host_cgo.go#L193
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15:50 < mischief> let me see if i can fix that
15:50 < jca> ewww.  should be dlopen("libfuse.so").
15:53 < mischief> well thats some progress, now fuse_mount: Permission denied
15:54 < jca> the issue is that mounting fuse filesystems is restricted to root, like all mounts since kern.usermount disappeared.  which makes fuse, ahem, less useful than it could be...
15:54 < jca> still your fix would be valuable
15:55 < jca> now, patching go ports is often hit-and-miss...
15:56 < vortexx> it would be most appreciated if you can get it working!
15:57 < vortexx> my use is : I turned on encryption on my nextcloud instance, which means that my previous way of accessing it's data via NFS no longer works. Only webdav enables decrypted access to the files, which I need for my boxes that use minidlna to cast the video files of the nextcloud
16:00 < mischief> it works, i think
16:00 < mischief> the mount is empty though
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16:03 < mischief> jca: what hardware is the riscv64 machine using for your build reports?
16:04 < jca> mischief: Hifive Unmatched.  but only one of them is up as we speak...
16:05 < jca> https://pbot.rmdir.de/38CRbRe7Z6HydAtVIb0OMQ this is for libfuse.  but there may another trick to enable "mount", isn't there?
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16:14 < mischief> jca: sorry, yes. see https://gist.github.com/mischief/43052f35ba6ecd7ebc935f598c3297f4
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16:15 < mischief> jca: i sent https://github.com/winfsp/cgofuse/pull/100 upstream for that
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16:16 < mischief> jca: ah yes, also it needs the build tag 'cmount'
16:17 < mischief> eg: go build -tags cmount
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16:26 < jca> mischief: well done for winfsp.  if you feel like it, please discuss the rclone-specific bits with $MAINTAINER and/or propose your fs.go diff upstream
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16:28 < mischief> bket: ^^
16:28 < mischief> unfortunately, the mount is just empty no matter what i've tried. will need debugging
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16:41 < vortexx> I haven't really tested fuse speeds on OpenBSD, is it enough for when for ex you mount sshfs or unionfs and you're watching a video off the mount?
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16:42 < vortexx> say 720p
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16:53 < jca> vortexx: there's only one way to know... as far as I'm concerned I wouldn't use OpenBSD -current for that
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16:54 < vortexx> jca: yes of course. I'll to reboot into OpenBSD, can't right now
16:54 < vortexx> s/I'll to/I'll have to
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17:16 < jca> looks like I can get ~15MB/s ith sshfs over lo0
17:16 < jca> s/ith/w&/
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17:21 < mischief> slow, but probably sufficient for most videos
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17:48 < mischief> i am baffled why rclone fuse doesn't work. the directory entries seem to go straight into the libfuse c api but never come out the other end
17:49 < mischief> i can see the file names in the log, and even cd into directories but no directory has any contents.. readdir just doesn't work :c
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17:56 < xse> there was some fuse stuff by Helg in the last few months on both tech and ports
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18:09 < vortexx> yeah some moving files around in /usr/include, amongst other things
18:15 < vortexx> oh lots of plumbing in kernel too, nice
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18:27 < mischief> :|
18:27 < mischief> okay, it works, but for reasons i do not understand
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18:36 < mischief> vortexx: can you try to build this branch? https://github.com/mischief/rclone/tree/openbsd
18:36 < mischief> you can check the diff here https://github.com/rclone/rclone/compare/master...mischief:rclone:openbsd?expand=1 and here https://github.com/winfsp/cgofuse/compare/master...mischief:cgofuse:openbsd
18:39 < mischief> (gmake GOTAGS=cmount to build)
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18:50 < SiFuh> I am done! Wife's computer automatically updated to Windows 11. She said she didnt' do it. It did itself. Asked me if I can fix it. No GPU, NFS mounts lost. Crashes less than 5 minutes into a movie. She's getting OpenBSD
18:52 < vortexx> mischief: do  I need to be on -current for that?
18:52 < mischief> vortexx: no, i am on 7.8 myself
18:53 < mischief> you do need gmake and go, however
18:54 < vortexx> I normally just build everything with dpb, I've completely forgotten how to patch a port's source before building
18:54 < vortexx> lol
18:55 < mischief> i'm not suggesting to use the port
18:55 < vortexx> going to stream in five minutes, I'll have to look at it tomorrow (I run irssi in a tmux session in a vm so I won't miss any comments)
18:55 < vortexx> ah ok
18:55 < vortexx> I have go and gmake as prebuilt packages on the build server
18:55 < IcePic> I run irssi in tmux too, but still manages to miss some conversations
18:55 < mischief> stream what?
18:56 < vortexx> a show I do on rumble with friends
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19:57 < mischief> i left a comment on https://github.com/rclone/rclone/issues/1727, hopefully my other PR gets merged and the rclone maintainer can merge his branch and it will just work on openbsd then
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20:16 < bket> mischief: thanks for the work! Lets see what happens upstream, fallback is doing it with local patches
20:17 < bket> that said, i only had a brief look at the proposed changed, and did not run tested it. Hope i can do that this weekend
20:17 < bket> *changes
20:18 < mischief> excellent
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23:17 < mischief> welp. somehow hung rclone and now both ls and rclone are stuck and unkillable. thats not nice :(
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