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01:13 < treefrob> is there any mechanism for arranging to be notified when certain file operations are performed? I mean something similar to Linux's inotify
01:14 < Bradipo> You mean like inotifywait?
01:15 < pardis> kqueue(2)
01:15 < Bradipo> Found in inotify-tools
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01:21 < thrig> entr is a userland tool for that
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01:27 < Bradipo> Is entr in base?  I typically use inotifywait from the inotify-tools package.
01:29 < treefrob> Bradipo, yes, exactly like that :) thanks
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09:04 < aiub> does anyone know how i can use DRM/KMS framebuffer and OSS4 audio system libraries? i wanna use them on OpenBSD in a C program
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09:05 < aiub> like (im comming from linux) and like i used asoundlib (alsa's lib) and libdrm and xf86drm stuff 
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09:12 < MsInput> aiub: there's a manpage for sndiod - which might lead to other informative docs
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09:13 < aiub> MsInput: im asking for the kernel level audio subsystem sndiod is the sound server and that depends on the audio drivers and stuff 
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09:14 < humm> you can use the sndio library to talk to the device nodes directly
09:14 < MsInput> I was hoping maybe sndio.h could offer you some clues
09:15 < humm> and for libdrm: use libdrm
09:15 < IcePic> ports have lots of audio libraries also, those could help with portability I guess
09:18 < aiub> humm: ye i seem that works and is there 
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09:20 < aiub> i found it its <soundcard.h> 
09:21 < IcePic> libao from ports seems to cover a lot of sound systems, including OSS and sndio-on-obsd
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09:22  * Ove_ got a patched kernel from IcePic that made the er-4 go vroom vroom in terms of RX performance.
09:22 < Ove_> Muchos speed, such ppps
09:22 < Ove_> *pps
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09:27 < dlg> oh?
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09:27 < Ove_> About ~200 Mbit/s extra
09:27 < Ove_> soft-lro patch for cnmac
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09:28 < aiub> IcePic: yeah but i don't wanna use that i was just looking up their source code to confirm yk 
09:29 < Ove_> from this: https://pastebin.com/sMYm1qrc to https://dpaste.com/4PNV6WQ55
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10:52 < aiub> nvm found it in /usr/x11r6 
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14:41 < mischief> hooray, the changes for rclone mount got merged
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16:07 < thrig> years ago you served my father in the rclone wars?
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16:10 < lts> Tool for more civilized times
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16:10 < thrig> these are your father's ()
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16:13 < mischief> thrig: did you fix your nextcloud?
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16:16 < thrig> never did run any of these cloud city things
16:17 < mischief> oh, that was vortexx, whoops
16:17 < mischief> no caffiene yet
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18:54 < replooda> thrig: What's your equivalent, if any, to the cloud city things?
18:54 < replooda> Greetings, everybody.
19:04 < oldlaptop> scp is handy
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19:23 < thrig> not sure what cloud software is for, and don't see much use for it, so you'd need to be more specific
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19:27 < mischief> he's just asking if you store data on more than one computer, and if so, how do you access that data from another computer
19:27 < mischief> no cloud needed
19:28 < replooda> Providing privately-hosted services to one's family, such as document editing, file hosting and so on.
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19:29 < lts> Hokey cloud software and modern containers are no match for a good bare metal solution at your side, kid
19:30 < replooda> Myself, I default to ssh tunnels, so I don't know much about cloud stuff either.
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19:42 < thrig> rsync, git, scp, stuff like that
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20:34 < replooda> thrig: Yes, just the same here.
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22:03 < mischief> is there a 'mini pc' that has a pci slot for an intel x710 card or so? most machines i looked at totally lack full pci slots, and dont have e.g. 4x 10g copper nics onboard
22:04 < mischief> my odroid-h2 is feeling a bit long in the tooth
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22:13 < dg> mischief: some of the lenovo tiny PCs have the ability to install a pcie riser, typically the higher end ones, I have a thinkstation of 7th gen intel era
22:15 < dg> I got the riser and the card off aliexpress, it's only a two port one as anything bigger wasn't going to fit, it also required a bit of bending the pcie bracket (if you get a supported card they have custom backplates)
22:16 < dg> (card identifies as: ix0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82599" ...)
22:18 < mischief> what model?
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22:19 < dg> the pc or the nic?
22:19 < mischief> these types of things are obviously too small https://ebay.us/m/aJ6DYK and these kinds of things are too big https://ebay.us/m/kh7wNd, for me
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22:20 < dg> it's one of those tiny ones
22:20 < dg> looks like the smaller link, it's "p320 tiny"
22:20 < mischief> how does that fit a pcie card
22:21 < mischief> for reference, my odroid-h2 looks like this (photo from many years ago) https://i.imgur.com/DiIdnHz.jpeg, i'd like to keep a similar size...
22:21 < mischief> except with 4x 10g nics.
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22:23 < dg> i can't find a good picture but it does, I suspect you'd need bigger for 4x 10g though just to get the coolin
22:23 < dg> +g
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22:24 < dg> if you want to spend more there's https://www.servethehome.com/minisforum-ms-01-review-the-10gbe-with-pcie-slot-mini-pc-intel/ (servethehome have a bunch of reviews of this class of machine)
22:24 < mischief> purportedly intel x710-t2l has lower tdp/cooling requirements than other nics/previous gens
22:26 < mischief> i'm hoping to avoid sfp since i have no optical or sfp transcievers and dont really want to invest if i dont have to
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22:35 < dg> yeah, that would be nice, the -t2l is only 2 port though?
22:35 < dg> from looking at photos some of the t2l are smaller form factor, but the t4l look like they wouldn't fit
22:36 < dg> still a bit much on ebay to buy and chance it
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22:41 < dlg> mischief: 10g over cat6 is more power hungry than 10g with sfp+ modules
22:41 < dlg> an x710-t4 is probably your best before for quad 10g on a single low profile pcie card
22:43 < dlg> i do like the look of the minisforum ms-01 or ms-a2 for building a beefy but portable network appliance out of though
22:43 < mischief> ah right yes, i meant x710-t4l
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22:45 < dg> https://www.servethehome.com/intel-x710-t4-quad-port-10gbase-t-nic-review/ "This is far from a low-power card. [...] consistently get this card to pull around 24W which is in-line with the specs [...]"
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22:46 < dg> so 6w per port ish
22:46 < mischief> yea, so i'd like a small machine that can fit the x710-t4l and nothing else :)
22:47 < mischief> i suppose i could rebuild my old custom ryzen 5950x machine and change the gpu for the nic but that seems overkill
22:48 < sibiria> jetway makes mATX- and mini-ITX boards with PCI ports still. they got a lot of niche stuff
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22:54 < sibiria> mischief: won't the new H4 and the new netcard with 4 x 2.5G ports be enough?
22:57 < mischief> was hoping to get 10g
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23:25 < puffybuf> I'm amazed how well the emulator in -base works once I figured out how to install debian over serial
23:25 < fro> what
23:25 < puffybuf> emulator virtual machine whatever
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23:26 < mischief> vmd
23:26 < sibiria> hypervisor
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