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ZZZzzz…] 00:31 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:32 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 00:36 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has joined #openbsd 00:38 -!- winq [~winq@user/winq] has quit [Quit: .] 00:38 -!- winq [~winq@user/winq] has joined #openbsd 00:42 < deepesttoaster> thanks for the feedback mischief and dg, and sorry for stepping away abruptly. 00:44 < deepesttoaster> status is active, and traffic flows through to the vlans that use that physical interface for their vlandev which I'm pretty sure wouldn't work if the phsyical interface was down 00:47 -!- burley [fc32d5b940@user/burley] has left #openbsd [#openbsd] 00:49 -!- \3dbott[dot]com [~join_3dbo@72.53.254.201] has joined #openbsd 00:51 -!- einyx [~einyx@201.pool85-55-189.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:51 < dlg> deepesttoaster: my guess is you're blocking the external to nextcloud packets as they leave the router 00:52 < dlg> if you tcpdump -nvei pflog0, or tcpdump -nver /var/log/pflog, do you see the block out rule being hit for packets going to your nextcloud server? 00:53 -!- Poltawer [~xt003@user/Poltawer] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1] 00:54 < dlg> remember, connections going through a routing firewall will go through pf twice, once going into the router, and again when they leave the router 00:54 < dlg> i see you have this rule: 00:54 < dlg> pass in on egress inet proto tcp from {, , , , } to (egress) port { 80 443 } rdr-to $nextcloud 00:54 < dlg> which lets the packet into the firewall 00:54 < deepesttoaster> let me add log to a bunch more rules I don't see anything being logged as blocked currently 00:55 < dlg> but i dont see a "pass out" rule that will let the packets leave the firewall 00:55 < deepesttoaster> 16:34:48.501813 rule 26/(match) [uid 0, pid 36434] pass in on em0: [rewritten: src 71.233.151.148:25574, dst 192.168.1.25:80] 71.233.151.148.25574 > .80: S [tcp sum ok] 1408398422:1408398422(0) win 29200 (DF) (ttl 104, id 29685, len 52) 00:55 < dlg> yep, thats the first input run through pf 00:56 < dlg> you need something to let it out of the firewall too 00:57 < deepesttoaster> I didn't have one before and it worked, not sure what a new pass out rule would look like. I tried several things yesterday and none of the pass out rules I tried worked, likely because I'm doing it wrong. 00:57 < dlg> if you had "set skip on em0" or something like that, it would do the same job 00:58 < deepesttoaster> I don't suppose there's a simple "log everything" rule I could put in instead of adding log to each line 00:58 < dlg> no, sorry 00:58 < mischief> i cheat with a blanket pass out 00:58 < deepesttoaster> didn't figure. 00:59 < dlg> just to be sure, "route get 192.168.1.25" looks like it's facing the right interface too? 00:59 < deepesttoaster> route get returns interface vlan10 01:00 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:02 < dlg> oh noes 01:03 < mischief> who is peer and why did they do this to deepesttoaster :( 01:03 -!- kx10 [~kx@2600:4040:2678:9600:aa74:8659:362b:f367] has joined #openbsd 01:04 -!- owl_prince [~kvirc@user/owl-prince:09317] has joined #openbsd 01:08 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 01:10 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has joined #openbsd 01:12 < deepesttoaster> dlg, thank you!!! adding logging to all the block rules helped me find what was blocking and what I was doing wrong with my pass out rules I had tried. mischief again, thank you as well for your time and help <3 01:12 < deepesttoaster> pass out log on $vlan10 from any to any keep state 01:13 < deepesttoaster> That ultimately solved my problem. I'm not sure if I should try and restrict that down from any/any but right now functional is what I want more than anything else XD 01:16 < mischief> hot tip from 2 years younger dlg https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/1c2hkl0/comment/kzaxw4r/ 01:16 < dlg> yep 01:17 < dlg> another trick i like to use is tags 01:17 < dlg> so it would be something like 01:17 < dlg> pass in on egress inet proto tcp from {, , , , } to (egress) port { 80 443 } rdr-to $nextcloud tag nextcloud 01:17 < dlg> pass out on vlan10 tagged nextcloud 01:18 < deepesttoaster> yeah, I saw tags come up a fair amount in some of the research but I set that aside as a nice to have cosmetic thing. 01:18 < deepesttoaster> I'm starting to see it as much less cosmetic and much more troubleshooting necessity 01:18 * dlg nod 01:19 < dlg> i think getting the "pf runs twice" idea right is important first though 01:19 < deepesttoaster> mischief: <3 I found that earlier today but couldn't figure out how to integrate that knowledge in a useful way at the time. I'll probably revisit it in a day or two when I've come back down from this XD 01:19 < dlg> the other thing i see people struggle with is routing 01:19 < deepesttoaster> wait what? pf runs twice? 01:20 < mischief> the ol in out 01:20 < dlg> yes 01:20 < deepesttoaster> oh, you mean the traffic hits pf in both directions because it's two separate packets? 01:21 < Bradipo> No, because it's two separate directions. 01:21 < dlg> i wrote this down somewhere 01:21 < dlg> gimme a sec 01:21 < Bradipo> rules are evaluated in and out. 01:21 < dlg> https://mild.embarrassm.net/~dlg/openbsd-bits/net/firewall-intro.html 01:21 < deepesttoaster> OH! The packet comes in on an interface and pf checks for if it's allowed, then pf checks again where to send it out? 01:22 < dlg> that's 90% right 01:22 < deepesttoaster> I would have envisioned that as a single process 01:22 < Bradipo> From the man page: Each time a packet processed by the packet filter comes in on or goes out through an interface, the filter rules are evaluated in sequential order, from first to last. 01:22 < dlg> it's the routing table that decides where it's going to go 01:22 < dlg> pf runs after that to see if it's allowed 01:23 < deepesttoaster> brb picking my jaw up off the ground 01:23 < deepesttoaster> like that's super obvious once explained but also why didn't I intuitively figure that out 01:23 < dlg> i dont think it's super obvious until it is explained 01:24 < Bradipo> Did you read the PACKET FILTERING section? https://man.openbsd.org/pf.conf#PACKET_FILTERING :-) 01:24 < Bradipo> Second paragraph. 01:24 < dlg> the network stack is a black box until you get some bitter experience 01:24 < Bradipo> That's possibly true. 01:24 < deepesttoaster> Bradipo: yes, I read that. I can't say I understood all of it the first few times I read it lol 01:24 < Bradipo> Trial and error is a good teacher I guess. 01:24 < deepesttoaster> dlg: yes! and I'm a systems guy not a network guy so it's even more of a black box. 01:25 < dlg> did my link above make sense? 01:25 < mischief> bitter, cheating and lazy experience is why i ended up with blanket pass out 01:25 < deepesttoaster> I haven't read the whole thing yet, but the high level 1-7 makes sense yeah 01:25 < deepesttoaster> mischief: <3 that's my kind of "good enough" 01:26 < mischief> https://github.com/mischief/ansible/blob/master/roles/router/templates/pf.conf.j2#L23 01:27 -!- raj [uid72176@user/raj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:27 < mischief> good enough if you're careful with what you receive to forward and the packets your machine generates itself 01:28 < Bradipo> Hopefully you never have to deal with rdomains and rtables. :-) 01:28 < deepesttoaster> yeah, I don't want a blanket pass out though because I do want the IoT vlan to not make it outside because I have devices that I don't trust. They haven't actually done anything to warrant that lack of trust but why allow them the opportunity. 01:29 < Bradipo> But if you block in on the IoT vlan, they can never make it to out. 01:29 < deepesttoaster> yeah I kept seeing rdomains and rtables show up and secretly hoping you guys here would save me from learning that 01:29 < mischief> my use cases are perhaps fortunately not complicated enough for rdomains/rtables 01:29 < Bradipo> I don't think you'll need rdomains for this particular setup. It has some uses, but they tend to be a bit esoteric (at least my case was). 01:30 < mischief> also, of course you can preempt pass out with block out quick rules if particular traffic needs to be snuffed 01:30 < deepesttoaster> wait, you have if statements and for loops in your pf.conf? 01:30 < deepesttoaster> what kind of madness is this? 01:30 < mischief> ansible/jinja 01:31 < deepesttoaster> oh, I haven't touched ansible and don't intend to 01:31 < deepesttoaster> granted that's how I felt about docker for the longest time and I'm about to deploy 2 more docker containers in the next few weeks... 01:33 < deepesttoaster> I'm pleasantly surprised at how little cpu usage there seems to be with all the rules having log on them right now. 01:34 < mischief> its fine, i was just lazy and kept editing stuff on disk and not keeping the ansible in sync. for one machine, its maybe overkill 01:34 < mischief> (ansible that is) 01:37 < Bradipo> Anyone here ever use tlsc? 01:37 < Bradipo> From: https://github.com/younix/ucspi 01:38 < dlg> i dont think you'd need rdomains unless you want the router to appear as multiple independent computers or routers on the network 01:38 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:6b00::1c19] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:41 < mischief> Bradipo: doesn't socat do this just fine? 01:41 < Bradipo> Well, maybe, I haven't tried. 01:42 < Bradipo> Will socat take an existing socket, negotiate TLS on it, and then exec() a new process? 01:42 < Bradipo> tlsc can be used in exec chains to enable TLS on proceses that normally just read/write stdin/stdout, etc. 01:42 < dlg> Bradipo: interesting 01:42 < pardis> Bradipo: I have used tlsc once, I think 01:42 < pardis> worked fine even if it feels a bit clunky as an interface 01:43 < Bradipo> I'm usint tlss successfully, but I'm getting an error with tlsc. 01:43 < pardis> I don't remember much about it, it was years ago 01:43 < Bradipo> Error is coming from LibreSSL I think. 01:43 < Bradipo> tlsc: tls_connect_fds: server name indication failure 01:43 < Bradipo> I could try socat if it works better. 01:43 < pardis> are you giving it -n? 01:43 < Bradipo> Yes. 01:44 < Bradipo> Without -n I get a different error. 01:44 < mischief> socat can inherit fds, and exec subprocesses 01:44 < mischief> can do just about anything with fds really 01:44 < mischief> what are you trying to do 01:45 < Bradipo> Well, actually, I take that back, if I give a -n that is bogus, I do get an error: 01:45 < Bradipo> tlsc: tls_handshake: name `abc' not present in server certificate 01:45 < Bradipo> Which is what I would expect. But if I give -n the valid hostname, then I get the SNI failure. 01:45 < Bradipo> mischief: If you're not familiar with chainloaders or exec chains... 01:46 < Bradipo> Basically you have tcpclient connect a TCP/IP socket up, then it execs another process which inherits the FDs. 01:46 < Bradipo> In this case tlsc will inherit the FDs and negotiate TLS on them and then it calls the "next" process in the exec chain. 01:46 -!- XZDX [~xzdx@2601:404:ce00:b795:214:51ff:fe83:9855] has joined #openbsd 01:46 < Bradipo> That "next" process is unaware that it's communicating over a network or a TLS enabled network, it just talks as if it were on stdin/stdout. 01:47 < Bradipo> So, if socat can negotiate TLS and then spawn another process with FDs attached to the TLS, that would work, sure. 01:47 < Bradipo> I thought I had looked at socat once and determined that it didn't have the right capability. 01:48 -!- XZDX [~xzdx@2601:404:ce00:b795:214:51ff:fe83:9855] has quit [Changing host] 01:48 -!- XZDX [~xzdx@user/XZDX] has joined #openbsd 01:48 < Bradipo> socat can "listen", but I don't need a listener. 01:48 < Bradipo> I need a plumber. 01:51 < mischief> dont think socat can run tls on an inherited fd, but it can listen or exec and dial out (with ssl) 01:52 < mischief> why cant you socat tcp4-listen:1234 openssl:foo.com:443 and make your program dial 127.0.0.1:1234 01:52 < Bradipo> Right, like I said, I don't need a listener... just a plumber. :-) 01:54 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.163.30.193] has joined #openbsd 01:54 -!- kx10 [~kx@2600:4040:2678:9600:aa74:8659:362b:f367] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:54 < mischief> well, conveniently it's not a long program to write 01:54 < mischief> go forth and hack 01:55 < Bradipo> Hahaha, well the error is coming from LibreSSL. 01:56 < Bradipo> Specifically: https://github.com/younix/ucspi/blob/9435993f47af23a98464beee872e412aec295e5c/tlsc.c#L184 01:57 < Bradipo> Well, and tls_error() is https://man.openbsd.org/tls_error 01:57 < Bradipo> So what part of SNI is failing... that I don't know. 01:57 < mischief> odd considering the employment of the author 01:58 < Bradipo> The other of tlsc or of libtls? 01:58 < mischief> ucspi 01:59 < Bradipo> I may just try a different USCPI interface. 01:59 < Bradipo> This is one that's in ports so I thought I would try it. 02:02 < mischief> to be clear: you exec process X, do tls on fd 0, pipe, fork/exec process Y, Y does io on pipe and X does tls io between fd 0 and pipe? 02:05 < Bradipo> tcpclient opens a TCP/IP connection to host/port, it then sets up fd 6 for reading from the socket and fd 7 writing to the socket, and then calls exec(newproc). 02:06 < Bradipo> newproc could just be something as simple as "cat" 02:06 < Bradipo> Thus enabling cat to communicate on the network via the fds. 02:06 < mischief> some process has to do tls and it cant be the exec'd child here, so you need fork and pipes 02:09 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.163.30.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:09 < Bradipo> I haven't even gotten to TLS yet. :-) 02:09 < Bradipo> If newproc is just "cat" then obviously there is no TLS. 02:10 < Bradipo> But if newproc is tlsc, then tlsc will negotiate TLS and fork()/exec() the new process as a middle-man. 02:10 < mischief> if its just this then socat can do it 02:10 < Bradipo> I don't think so... 02:10 < Bradipo> I looked at socat many times for this functionality---either I don't understand the documentation, or it's not obvious to me. 02:11 < mischief> mischief@beast.home.arpa:~ $ socat - tcp4-listen:12345 02:11 < mischief> hello cat! 02:11 < mischief> hello cat! 02:11 < mischief> mischief@beast.home.arpa:~ $ socat tcp4:127.0.0.1:12345 exec:cat 02:11 < Bradipo> I don't want socat to open any fds... 02:11 < Bradipo> It needs to inherit already existing fds and communicate over them. 02:11 < Bradipo> It should not "listen". 02:12 < mischief> it can inherit fds 02:12 < mischief> see the FD: option 02:12 < Bradipo> Yes, I have seen that... I don't think it works, but I'll check again. 02:13 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:6b00::1c19] has joined #openbsd 02:14 < Bradipo> This should be easy enough to test... 02:19 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:21 -!- matteocavestri0 [~matteocav@host-79-54-163-116.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openbsd 02:22 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 02:22 -!- matteocavestri [~matteocav@host-62-211-129-39.pool62211.interbusiness.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:22 -!- matteocavestri0 is now known as matteocavestri 02:26 < Bradipo> So a typical unencrypted invocation looks like: 02:27 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:27 -!- jitter [~jitter@user/jitter] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:28 < Bradipo> mischief: printf "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n" | tcpclient -vRHl0 -- offblast.org 80 /bin/sh -c 'cat >&7; exec cat <&7' 02:29 < Bradipo> That will dump what's on port 80 unencrypted. 02:29 < Bradipo> Oops, I got a typo there. 02:29 < Bradipo> mischief: printf "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n" | tcpclient -vRHl0 -- offblast.org 80 /bin/sh -c 'cat >&7; exec cat <&6' 02:29 -!- jitter [~jitter@149.233.183.120.dynamic-pppoe.dt.ipv4.wtnet.de] has joined #openbsd 02:29 -!- jitter [~jitter@149.233.183.120.dynamic-pppoe.dt.ipv4.wtnet.de] has quit [Changing host] 02:29 -!- jitter [~jitter@user/jitter] has joined #openbsd 02:30 < Bradipo> Now, in theory, with socat, I should be able to take those FDs and it will do SSL, right? 02:30 < Bradipo> printf "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n" | tcpclient -vRHl0 -- offblast.org 443 /bin/sh -c 'exec socat FD:6 FD:7' 02:30 < Bradipo> Right? But it just hangs. 02:31 < Bradipo> tcpclient reports connected, no problem. 02:31 < Bradipo> But then socat doesn't do anything apparently. 02:32 < ssm_> any fun non-x86 hardware (laptops or similarly portable) to use -current openbsd on? I know of loongson and powermac already. mnt reform is dream device but currently unaffordable. pinebook pro looks maybe interesting, but pine64 has made questionable decisions (charging circuit on OG pinephone is software controlled, partnering with manjaro), and their hardware quality (buttons) fail very quickly in my 02:32 < ssm_> experience 02:33 < Bradipo> Or maybe I need to do something like: socat STDIN FD:6 ? 02:34 < Bradipo> Nope. 02:34 < Bradipo> I've never been able to figure out if socat can be used in this fashion. lol. 02:34 < mischief> Bradipo: socat will copy between those fds 02:34 < mischief> maybe you wanted socat - exec:cat 02:35 < Bradipo> Hmm... 02:35 < Bradipo> I suppose, I could try that. 02:36 < Bradipo> exec socat exec:cat exec:cat <&6 >&7 02:36 < Bradipo> Doesn't work. 02:36 < Bradipo> Because socat want's 2 addresses. 02:37 -!- \3dbott[dot]com [~join_3dbo@72.53.254.201] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:38 < ssm_> can't find this on the arm64 plat.html, only the OG pinebook. price seems pretty good; I'm aware of the current lack of drivers except basic display out for mali gpus. https://pine64eu.com/product/14-inch-pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-ansi-us-keyboard/ 02:38 < ssm_> ah well, out of stock anyways 02:39 < Bradipo> I'll be back later. 02:39 -!- Bradipo [~Bradipo@50.77.44.19] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:40 -!- mover [~hischild@user/mover] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:42 < oldlaptop> ssm_: There are some fairly interesting riscv64 boards (micro-ATX or some similar standard form factor). I don't think you're going to find anything portable worth bothering with. 02:43 < oldlaptop> (and I'd be inclined to lump the pinethings in as "not worth bothering with" at this point) 02:45 < mischief> riscv will probably slowly ursurp arm, but its still fallen into the same vendor trap arm did 02:45 < oldlaptop> That seems to be why pine is letting their arm stuff stagnate (?) 02:45 < oldlaptop> (waiting for godot^Wriscv) 02:45 < mischief> with 3 riscv machines to my name, i can say they are still not very good 02:46 < ssm_> mischief: I doubt it unless performance per watt shoots up fast. the jh7110 is terrible, and what came next wasn't much of an improvement to my knowledge 02:46 < ssm_> like early 2010's arm performance bad 02:47 < mischief> its not fast, but they are coming along 02:47 < oldlaptop> realistically, to the extent not-amd64 machines are going to be practical tools at all (at least in the context of a channel named #openbsd), they're not going to be portable 02:47 < oldlaptop> perhaps that will change sometime 02:48 < oldlaptop> (now, I'd impose a further requirement that any clamshell "laptop" must have a trackpoint - that seems likely to rule out pretty much everything, probably even including so-called "thinkpads" in the medium term) 02:49 -!- owl_prince [~kvirc@user/owl-prince:09317] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:51 < rtj> I messed my pinebook pro up trying to make it boot obsd. User error for sure. I need to attempt to revive it. 02:51 < rtj> Thanks for reminding me. 02:53 -!- jgh [~jgh@hellmouth.gulag.org.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:54 < mischief> eswin EIC7700X for openssl speed dsa 02:54 < mischief> sign verify sign/s verify/s 02:54 < mischief> dsa 1024 bits 0.000712s 0.000532s 1404.7 1881.0 02:57 < ssm_> 11th gen intel: 100dsa 1024 bits 0.000117s 0.000107s 8548.6 9333.9 02:57 -!- rueda [~rueda@2404:9400:3:0:216:3eff:fee1:7d67] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:57 < ssm_> extrenuous 100 on dsa for some reason 02:57 -!- rueda [~rueda@2404:9400:3:0:216:3eff:fee1:7d67] has joined #openbsd 03:00 < mischief> ryzen 2700u, which is about 6yr old and slow as poop 03:00 < mischief> dsa 1024 bits 0.000174s 0.000160s 5739.3 6254.8 03:02 < ssm_> "ryzen" and "slow" don't go together in my head. old 03:03 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.183] has joined #openbsd 03:03 < oldlaptop> "it's all relative" only takes you so far 03:04 < mischief> bonus round 03:04 < mischief> my intel J4115 openbsd router (odroid-h2) 03:04 < mischief> dsa 1024 bits 0.000423s 0.000343s 2366.7 2913.0 03:05 < mischief> and gentoo linux ryzen 7950x on my desktop 03:05 < mischief> dsa 1024 bits 0.000058s 0.000044s 17140.4 22895.8 03:06 -!- raj [uid72176@user/raj] has joined #openbsd 03:06 < mischief> i think riscv is about on par with older mips and lower end arm, but it remains to be seen if ipc/clock speeds get better and if vendors get their shit together 03:07 < mischief> i have a spacemit k1 machine too, but its offline right now. its probably close to the eic7700x 03:08 < mischief> the only truly neat thing about the eswin eic7700x is that it supports the riscv h (virtualization) extensions, which from my casual perusing doesn't seem too common yet 03:09 < mischief> unfortunately openbsd for riscv hangs in qemu, didnt figure out how to get it to work 03:15 -!- Bradipo [~Bradipo@50.77.44.19] has joined #openbsd 03:19 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.183] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:27 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has quit [Quit: "Bockchu!"] 03:30 -!- itchy [~itchy@user/itchy] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:32 -!- itchy [~itchy@user/itchy] has joined #openbsd 03:52 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.149] has joined #openbsd 03:53 -!- zip100- [~zip100@185.209.196.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:00 -!- jtt [~jtt@user/jtt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- jtt [~jtt@user/jtt] has joined #openbsd 04:06 -!- SiFuh_ [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:07 -!- SiFuh_ [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has joined #openbsd 04:13 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.183] has joined #openbsd 04:16 < Bradipo> Are there environment variables that influence how LibreSSL does things? 04:20 -!- rain0r [~rainer@p200300e2ef02be00c8d7a1fffe483d6c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:22 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has joined #openbsd 04:22 -!- rain0r [~rainer@p200300e2ef02be00c8d7a1fffe483d6c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 04:24 -!- CosmicDJ [~CosmicDJ@p200300e24f341a0102e04cfffe01e7ab.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:25 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.183] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:27 -!- CosmicDJ [~CosmicDJ@p5de69283.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 04:30 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:32 -!- Z_O [~zero@user/Z-O/x-2536656] has joined #openbsd 04:33 < mischief> am i missing something with libinotify-kqueue/inotify-tools? i dont get any events for an individual file 04:34 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has joined #openbsd 04:34 < mischief> touch /tmp/x; inotifywatch /tmp/x & echo foo >> /tmp/x; rm /tmp/x # no events 04:47 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:48 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 04:54 < mischief> nevermind, the brain worms must be getting to me 04:54 < mischief> inotifywait -m /tmp/x works 05:00 < Bradipo> I usually do it in a loop. 05:00 < Bradipo> while :; do inotifywait /tmp/x; do something; done 05:02 < Bradipo> That second do is obviously not part of the command. :-) 05:03 -!- owl_prince [~kvirc@user/owl-prince:09317] has joined #openbsd 05:05 -!- boonet [~boonet@user/boonet] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:18 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.219] has joined #openbsd 05:21 -!- nature [~nature@64.137.144.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:23 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:24 < mischief> behold, version 2 of my script to ban ssh bruteforcers using the lua bindings i wrote for pf https://0x0.st/s/OuovFtokEXj0e1KX_YzOHg/PbVs.lua 05:27 < mischief> i fixed this guys lua inotify bindings, was just broke before. seems fine now https://github.com/mischief/linotify 05:28 < Bradipo> That 0x0.st site does strange things when documents expire or are invalid. 05:28 < Bradipo> For example: https://0x0.st/s/OuovFtokEXj0e1KX_YzOHg/PbV.lua 05:28 < Bradipo> Looks like some kind of crash. 05:29 < mischief> i am 90% certain it just just a funny 404 page 05:29 < mischief> indeed 05:29 < mischief> https://git.0x0.st/mia/0x0/src/branch/master/templates/404.html 05:29 < Bradipo> Ok, sure enough. 05:31 < mischief> one of these days i will write and host the $nth paste site for myself and keep it running, but not today 05:31 -!- tribaal [~tribaal@ubuntu/member/tribaal] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 05:32 -!- tribaal [~tribaal@ubuntu/member/tribaal] has joined #openbsd 05:32 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.219] has joined #openbsd 05:33 -!- OnASnoopPhone [~OnASnoopP@user/OnASnoopPhone] has joined #openbsd 05:35 -!- dastain [~dastain@2a00:d880:6:262::45a3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:43 -!- dastain [~dastain@2a00:d880:6:262::45a3] has joined #openbsd 05:43 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has joined #openbsd 05:43 -!- hotsoup_ [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:46 -!- aiub [~aiub@user/aiub-1:38606] has joined #openbsd 05:51 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.147.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51 -!- crb [~crb@2001:5a8:45c2:6300:3d9b:c2a8:8956:a660] has joined #openbsd 05:54 -!- adip [~adip@c145-48.icpnet.pl] has joined #openbsd 06:04 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Quit: bye] 06:08 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@2001:fb1:7c:6640:b4b7:b5b:38d6:bba7] has joined #openbsd 06:11 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has quit [Quit: nicht dran zu denken] 06:12 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has joined #openbsd 06:19 -!- eki [~eki@88-148-144-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:21 -!- aiub [~aiub@user/aiub-1:38606] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24 -!- owl_prince [~kvirc@user/owl-prince:09317] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:25 < szilard> mischief: i use a similar script but mine uses sh instead. 06:25 -!- eki [~eki@88-148-144-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openbsd 06:26 < szilard> No inotify tho. 06:26 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has joined #openbsd 06:30 < mischief> well, sure, one can just use tail as my previous incarnation did 06:30 < mischief> tail uses kqueue, which libinotify-kqueue also does 06:31 < mischief> just scratching an itch 06:37 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:39 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.38.239] has joined #openbsd 06:41 -!- Xenguy_ [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has joined #openbsd 06:41 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has joined #openbsd 06:41 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has joined #openbsd 06:42 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #openbsd 06:44 -!- nanosleep_ [~igneous_@59.153.243.190] has joined #openbsd 06:44 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:46 -!- nanosleep [~igneous_@user/nanosleep] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48 -!- ixc [~ixc@user/ixc] has joined #openbsd 06:50 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.38.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:51 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.38.239] has joined #openbsd 06:55 -!- cr4sh0v3rrid3 [~cr4sh0v3r@user/cr4sh0v3rrid3] has quit [Quit: Gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please ask me to wait.] 07:00 -!- mtoy [~mtoy@user/mtoy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:02 -!- mtoy [~mtoy@user/mtoy] has joined #openbsd 07:02 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.117.38.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:03 < quinq> ♬ juuust the iiiitch ♫ 07:05 -!- fixou [~fixou@212.114.19.0] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 07:10 -!- fixou [~fixou@485888601.box.freepro.com] has joined #openbsd 07:15 -!- cr4sh0v3rrid3 [~cr4sh0v3r@user/cr4sh0v3rrid3] has joined #openbsd 07:17 < IcePic> "its just a three line diff" 07:17 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@2001:fb1:7c:6640:b4b7:b5b:38d6:bba7] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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probably? 15:45 < sibiria> as is the requirement to handle different operating systems in a different way 15:45 < sibiria> the sprawly behaviors of the IP stacks of the 1990s aren't entirely with us anymore 15:46 < mischief> in my short test freebsd, netbsd and linux do not match 15:46 -!- loganaden [~logan@197.225.44.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:46 < mischief> openbsd seems to match, as does windows xp 15:52 < mischief> well that's a shame 15:54 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.163.30.162] has joined #openbsd 15:58 < sibiria> "crimes against net neutrality avoided - barely!" 15:58 -!- zenstoic [uid461840@id-461840.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 15:59 -!- loganaden [~logan@102.163.30.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:02 -!- sonya [~nightwolf@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has joined #openbsd 16:06 < ssm_> mischief: be the {patch,change} you want to see in the {file,world} 16:08 -!- user_with_nouser [~user_with@user/user-with-nouser:54838] has quit [Quit: 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Best to download manually the package and then add it. 17:34 < vortexx> (which reminds me we never raised this issue on a mailing list (should that be bugs@ ports@ or misc@ ?) 17:35 < lts> Not many people running jdk-21 and/or stable and/or OpenBSD (pick what you like best) 17:36 -!- paulf [~paulf@146.122.203.34] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:37 < maxmocha> thanks vortexx... yeah, agreed. i might raise this issue on the mailing list if i can figure that part out. i know that jdk-21 and jdk-25 are supposed to be available but neither show up. i've fixed this in the past and got them both to show up using pkg_info.... that resolution escapes me now. i may just download it and install it manually. this is literally to appease my 5 year old daughter to play minecraft on MY computer, because minecraft on 17:37 < maxmocha> her computer is boring 17:38 -!- nologin [~nightwolf@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38 < RobbieAB> maxmocha: Is it play minecraft on your computer or play minecraft with you? (home minecraft servers for the win) 17:39 -!- nologin [~nightwolf@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has joined #openbsd 17:39 -!- jerryf_ [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #openbsd 17:39 < maxmocha> both. she likes to tell me all about what she is doing when she is playing 17:39 -!- CryptLab [~NSA@2a0d:5600:6:108::2e] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:40 < RobbieAB> Set up a home server and play it with her! 17:40 -!- CryptLab [~NSA@2a0d:5600:6:108::2e] has joined #openbsd 17:41 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:41 < maxmocha> i do have a home server... and it runs a 1.21 version so that is why i'm stuck on this issue... i also have linux and freebsd installed and can run it from there, but i'd prefer to get this going on openbsd 17:41 -!- riceandbeans [~zach@user/riceandbeans] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42 -!- riceandbeans [~zach@user/riceandbeans] has joined #openbsd 17:42 < maxmocha> fyi, minecraft version 1.21+ requires jdk-21... not sure if that number is purposeful or accidental 17:42 < RobbieAB> I suspect accidental. 17:42 < RobbieAB> I probably need to rebuild my home server again soon. 17:51 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has joined #openbsd 17:51 < maxmocha> well... i just looked up the jdk packages in the cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD repo... and both jdk-21 and jdk-25 are listed there, but my system isn't seeing them... figures 17:52 -!- yclept [~yclept@user/yclept] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 17:52 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 17:54 < deepesttoaster> thank you vortexx <3 17:54 -!- hotsoup_ [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:56 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@66.154.176.34] has joined #openbsd 17:58 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 18:04 < maxmocha> FYI, i did download it manually from https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/amd64/ 18:05 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has joined #openbsd 18:05 < maxmocha> and was able to install it easy enough with pkg_add ./jdk-21.0.10.7.1p0v0.tgz 18:06 -!- rootnode [~rootnode@user/rootnode] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-171-96-192-83.revip8.asianet.co.th] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:06 -!- rootnode [~rootnode@user/rootnode] has joined #openbsd 18:07 -!- memset_ [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 18:08 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@66.154.176.34] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:08 -!- grain77 [~grain77@user/grain77] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08 -!- grain77 [~grain77@user/grain77] has joined #openbsd 18:08 -!- colin [~breavyn@user/breavyn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@66.154.176.34] has joined #openbsd 18:08 -!- schalken [~schalken@117-118-178-69.gci.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:09 -!- colin [~breavyn@user/breavyn] has joined #openbsd 18:10 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-171-96-192-83.revip8.asianet.co.th] has joined #openbsd 18:10 -!- schalken [~schalken@117-118-178-69.gci.net] has joined #openbsd 18:10 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@66.154.176.34] has quit [Client Quit] 18:14 -!- housemate [~housemate@202.7.248.67] has quit [Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/] 18:15 -!- housemate [~housemate@202.7.248.67] has joined #openbsd 18:15 -!- housemate [~housemate@202.7.248.67] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31 -!- unixpro1970 [~unixpro19@67.170.89.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31 < riceandbeans> Can I make my donation to OpenBSD only count towards release songs? 18:32 < riceandbeans> I miss them. 18:32 < riceandbeans> I already donate monthly, but I want the release songs to come back :( 18:34 -!- kroovy [~kroovy@195.52.26.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:35 -!- unixpro1970 [~unixpro19@67.170.89.46] has joined #openbsd 18:37 -!- zenstoic [uid461840@id-461840.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:39 < lts> Supporting ^ totally 18:39 < lts> Though they can only come from the heart, not from money 18:39 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.158.110] has joined #openbsd 18:41 -!- maxmocha [~spydermoc@24.235.91.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41 -!- memset_ [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:42 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 18:42 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@98.209.54.19] has joined #openbsd 18:43 -!- jetpackj- is now known as jetpackjackson_ 18:44 -!- CosmicDJ [~CosmicDJ@p5de69283.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: reboot] 18:44 -!- stuart [~stuart@2001:4090:a241:817f:8cd5:35f8:1494:1e2f] has joined #openbsd 18:46 -!- kroovy [~kroovy@62.27.227.244] has joined #openbsd 18:50 -!- CosmicDJ [~CosmicDJ@p200300e24f37af0102e04cfffe01e7ab.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 18:52 -!- awalwashig [~user@user/awalwashig] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55 -!- loganaden [~logan@105.235.158.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:02 -!- memset_ [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 19:02 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04 -!- maxmocha [~spydermoc@24.235.91.46] has joined #openbsd 19:12 -!- maxmocha [~spydermoc@24.235.91.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13 -!- bba [~bba@user/bba] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:19 -!- ivdsangen [~ivo@83-82-34-145.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:21 -!- jleh [jla@user/jleh] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:23 -!- psydroid2 [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has joined #openbsd 19:25 -!- bluto [~bluto@user/bluto] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:28 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@176-133-210-176.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: connection reset by purr] 19:30 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has joined #openbsd 19:39 -!- memset_ [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:39 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 19:40 -!- uwharrie [~uwharrie@user/uwharrie] has joined #openbsd 19:42 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:43 -!- zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.198] has joined #openbsd 19:47 -!- sweatiest is now known as sweat 19:50 -!- memset_ [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 19:54 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:55 -!- memset_ [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 19:55 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:55 -!- vados [~vados@89-209-16-162.mobile.vf-ua.net] has joined #openbsd 19:57 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:06 -!- housemate [~housemate@202.7.248.67] has joined #openbsd 20:06 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@rsa59-h05-176-133-210-176.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #openbsd 20:12 -!- maxmocha [~spydermoc@24.235.91.46] has joined #openbsd 20:14 -!- housemate [~housemate@202.7.248.67] has quit [Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/] 20:14 -!- dlock23 [~dlock23@user/dlock23] has joined #openbsd 20:20 -!- mover [~hischild@user/mover] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:21 -!- paulf [~paulf@2a01:cb15:8545:7700:62cf:84ff:fe81:caec] has joined #openbsd 20:22 -!- vados [~vados@89-209-16-162.mobile.vf-ua.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:22 -!- housemate [~housemate@202.7.248.67] has joined #openbsd 20:27 -!- klsrqm [~klsrqm@user/klsrqm] has joined #openbsd 20:28 -!- franks2 [~franks2@user/franks2] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:28 -!- Guest4013 [~franks2@user/franks2] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:29 < klsrqm> is anyone available for some relayd.conf sorcery? 20:29 < tux0r> ha, i'm glad that my relayd almost works! 20:30 < mischief> please hold for the next available customer service representative 20:30 * klsrqm is bobbing his head along to the elevator music on the phone 20:31 < klsrqm> tux0r: yeah; same, mine works *now* but I need to tweak it, without BIG breakage... 20:31 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:35 -!- kn [~kn@2a00:1370:80a6:6043:5d7:5b9f:ed1:47cf] has quit [Quit: kn] 20:35 -!- dlock23 [~dlock23@user/dlock23] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:38 -!- makr [~textual@2a00:f2a:e08e:b880::7e11:f111] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:38 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@rsa59-h05-176-133-210-176.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: connection reset by purr] 20:39 -!- RobbieAB [~robert@user/RobbieAB] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:40 -!- makr [~textual@94.207.161.5] has joined #openbsd 20:40 -!- RobbieAB [~robert@user/RobbieAB] has joined #openbsd 20:41 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@176-133-210-176.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #openbsd 20:41 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@176-133-210-176.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 20:41 -!- uzuri [~uzuri@user/uzuri] has quit [Quit: zzz] 20:41 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@176-133-210-176.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #openbsd 20:43 < lts> klsrqm: https://dontasktoask.com/ 20:43 < lts> Please just ask and we'll try 20:45 < housemate> ask what? 20:45 < housemate> oh it wasn't addressed to me. 20:48 < klsrqm> thx. so the question is, i've got relayd set up as a https accelerator. there's a http server running on localhost:3000; relayd adds tls and serves it on the public ip. i would like to add a second domain that i would like to forward to :4000 the same way. i've got keypairs for each domain, but i cannot figure out how to do it. i get "listener defined twice" 20:50 < klsrqm> i have two tables, say and , both are { 127.0.0.01 }. the http protocol has some `match request heder "Host"` directives, forwarding to or . then i have two relays; almost identical, both listen on $public_ip port 443 tls; and one forwards to port 3000, the other port 4000 20:50 < klsrqm> but this yields a "listener defined twice" erro 20:55 -!- paulf [~paulf@2a01:cb15:8545:7700:62cf:84ff:fe81:caec] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:55 < mischief> you just need multiple forward directives in one 'relay' 20:55 * tux0r bookmarks lts' URL 20:57 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has joined #openbsd 20:58 -!- uncleyear [~ian@178.66.157.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- sweat is now known as sweatiest 21:00 < mischief> klsrqm: something like https://0x0.st/s/e1dnoSCegBE-RiDdUGasWg/PbUo.conf 21:02 < klsrqm> mischief: thanks! that's great, i was getting muddled up and was setting up separate relays for each. 21:02 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-171-96-192-83.revip8.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:04 < mischief> yea no can't do that 21:05 < klsrqm> mischief: yayy it works, except for sg broken with certs 21:05 < klsrqm> but! it work! 21:05 < klsrqm> *s 21:06 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has joined #openbsd 21:10 < stuart> Huh, is there no way to make sure the TLS SNI and Host header match before forwarding? 21:12 -!- EtherNet [~ethernet@user/ethernet] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:13 < klsrqm> relayd ought to automatically match "REQUESTDOMAIN:REQUESTPORT"; so for example `tls keypair "domain-a.com"` for domain-a.com listening on 443 should automagically use /etc/ssl/domain-a.com:443.crt 21:13 < klsrqm> it works for one domain but there's an error for the second one; it is likely an acmed misconfig on my end 21:13 -!- hygo [~hygo@189-68-13-22.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openbsd 21:13 -!- EtherNet [~ethernet@user/ethernet] has joined #openbsd 21:15 < mischief> klsrqm: did you put the new name in the alternative names block and rerun acme-client 21:16 < klsrqm> mischief: no; i just asked for a separate cert 21:17 < mischief> i have like 6 names in one cert lol 21:17 * mischief lazy 21:19 < klsrqm> these are for very different type of projects so i want to separate them hard :) 21:19 < klsrqm> lol forgot to change it from staging 21:19 < klsrqm> that's all 21:19 < klsrqm> :) 21:20 -!- tydes [~tydes@user/ttydes] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:20 -!- Flairylumo [~Flairylum@166.199.4.49] has joined #openbsd 21:21 -!- Flairylumo [~Flairylum@166.199.4.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26 -!- kn [~kn@2a00:1370:80a6:16b6:46d1:7b10:c3ee:f3af] has joined #openbsd 21:26 -!- uncleyear [~ian@178.66.157.161] has joined #openbsd 21:27 -!- Flairylumo [~Flairylum@166.199.4.49] has joined #openbsd 21:27 -!- Flairylumo [~Flairylum@166.199.4.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28 < klsrqm> thank you mischief, really helped 21:32 -!- stuart_ [~stuart@2001:4090:a241:817f:ec87:6a85:9aa5:c928] has joined #openbsd 21:32 < mischief> no problem 21:34 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 21:34 -!- psydroid2 [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:35 -!- stuart [~stuart@2001:4090:a241:817f:8cd5:35f8:1494:1e2f] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:43 -!- stuart_ [~stuart@2001:4090:a241:817f:ec87:6a85:9aa5:c928] has quit [] 21:47 < deepesttoaster> heh, just noticed at some point I ran out of space for sd0g which is /usr/X11R6 ... apparently it's a 508M partition (default during the install a while back) fun times 21:50 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:50 < klsrqm> what filled it up? 21:50 < mischief> getting tight 21:50 < mischief> /dev/sd0g 986M 855M 81.8M 92% /usr/X11R6 21:51 < deepesttoaster> my guess is sysupgrade not 100% sure 21:51 < deepesttoaster> /dev/sd0g 508M 494M -11.2M 103% /usr/X11R6 21:51 -!- nologin [~nightwolf@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52 < mischief> deepesttoaster: maybe you can find old junk with sysclean 21:52 < klsrqm> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on 21:53 < klsrqm> dev/sd3g 986M 433M 504M 47% /usr/X11R6 21:53 -!- owl_prince [~kvirc@user/owl-prince:09317] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:53 < klsrqm> what window manager / desktop environment are you using deepesttoaster ? 21:53 < deepesttoaster> klsrqm: I'm not. this is a headless system that I access either through ssh or through the com port 21:54 < klsrqm> well that's especially strange then 21:54 < klsrqm> something dumping core there? 21:55 < deepesttoaster> it's been in place upgraded from 6.something all the way to 7.8 it's probably past time for a clean install 21:55 < mischief> sysclean found some old junk for me 21:55 < klsrqm> noooo that's too cool to reinstall :D 21:56 < mischief> /dev/sd0g 986M 344M 592M 37% /usr/X11R6 21:56 < deepesttoaster> but really I just need this to last for a few more weeks. Have a new router inbound which will replace this aging APU2 21:56 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:6b00::1c19] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:57 < deepesttoaster> I haven't looked that closely yet to figure out what's there that shouldn't be. I'm tempted to install this "sysclean" and give it a try. 21:58 < mischief> it doesn't delete anything on its own, only print 21:58 < deepesttoaster> pipe to rm ;-) 21:58 < deepesttoaster> jk jk 21:58 < mischief> yes 21:59 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 < mischief> 'doas sysclean|grep /usr/X11R6|doas xargs rm -vf' 21:59 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 22:00 -!- shadowtux [~shadowtux@user/meow/shadowtux] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 22:00 < vortexx> deepesttoaster: syspatch may have installed replacement binaries that were slightly larger 22:00 < klsrqm> sysclean > junk.files; then keep what you want to keep (like it wants to delete /media for me which has all my music which is a nono); then feed that to rm -rf 22:00 -!- shadowtux [~shadowtux@user/meow/shadowtux] has joined #openbsd 22:01 < vortexx> I just remove /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri* on headless boxes running out of space 22:01 < deepesttoaster> vortexx: that is my guess as well and probably was doing it for several upgrades and I just didn't notice because I don't use a WM/DE at all so never had a reason to encounter issues from it 22:01 < vortexx> klsrqm: proper procedure is to create /etc/sysclean.ignore with one folder or file per line of things that you added that must be kept 22:02 < vortexx> deepesttoaster: I used to use about 350Mb but that's far too small nowadays, and even 512Mb isn't enough 22:02 < vortexx> best go for 1Gb from now on 22:02 < deepesttoaster> purging the drivers is probably not a bad place to start 22:02 -!- ixc [~ixc@user/ixc] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:02 < vortexx> there's the least likely useful bits 22:03 < vortexx> I've never broken fontconfig and friends doing that 22:03 < deepesttoaster> heh, this thing's old, total storage is 16GB 22:03 < vortexx> so are my APU2s 22:04 < deepesttoaster> I guess I could take that extra 512 from /usr/share 22:04 < deepesttoaster> FWIW When I did this install I was very new to OpenBSD and linux so I just trusted the installers defaults for drive configuration 22:05 < klsrqm> vortexx: that's pretty cool, didn't know that, thanks 22:05 < vortexx> I have / /tmp /var /usr /usr/X11R6 /usr/local and /var/www/tmp on my APU6 22:05 -!- sjg [~sjg@user/sjg] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:05 < vortexx> on a 16Gb drive 22:05 < vortexx> klsrqm: it's from the manpage 22:06 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:06 < vortexx> you still have to check sysclean's output after each new version of OS upgrade because something might have slipped in 22:06 -!- adip [~adip@c145-48.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:07 < mischief> mercifully a respectable quantity of storage is pretty cheap these days 22:07 -!- sjg [~sjg@user/sjg] has joined #openbsd 22:08 -!- adip [~adip@c145-48.icpnet.pl] has joined #openbsd 22:12 < sibiria> i don't give /usr/X11R6 a label of its own. it uses the same permissions as /usr and can live in there just fine, unless you plan on building Xenocara on that system 22:13 -!- kc3zyt1 [~kc3zyt@user/kc3zyt] has joined #openbsd 22:13 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has joined #openbsd 22:13 -!- kc3zyt [~kc3zyt@user/kc3zyt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:13 -!- kc3zyt1 is now known as kc3zyt 22:13 -!- ExtraZero [~extrazero@user/ExtraZero] has quit [Quit: bye :3] 22:14 -!- ExtraZero [~extrazero@user/ExtraZero] has joined #openbsd 22:14 < deepesttoaster> heh, yeah be careful with sysclean, it wants to purge my pf and wireguard configs 22:14 -!- ExtraZero [~extrazero@user/ExtraZero] has quit [Client Quit] 22:14 -!- ExtraZero [~extrazero@user/ExtraZero] has joined #openbsd 22:15 -!- ExtraZero [~extrazero@user/ExtraZero] has quit [Client Quit] 22:15 < ssm_> see sysclean.ignore 22:15 < klsrqm> mischief: wait until Clammy Sammy decides he wants all the storage in the world too, NVME drives may yet be the next DDR5 ;) 22:15 < deepesttoaster> ssm_: yeah, you right <3 22:16 -!- ExtraZero [~extrazero@user/ExtraZero] has joined #openbsd 22:17 < ssm_> I never sysclean on -current, except when a snapshot upgrade moves between releases 22:17 < ssm_> even then it shouldn't really be necessary 22:17 -!- jonf_ [~jjf@163.5.171.92] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:17 -!- jonf [~jonf@163.5.171.92] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18 -!- ExtraZero [~extrazero@user/ExtraZero] has quit [Client Quit] 22:20 -!- ExtraZero [~extrazero@user/ExtraZero] has joined #openbsd 22:20 -!- jonf [~jonf@163.5.171.92] has joined #openbsd 22:20 -!- jonf_ [~jjf@163.5.171.92] has joined #openbsd 22:25 < mischief> sure, no need for ram. just use swap. 22:28 -!- owl_prince [~kvirc@user/owl-prince:09317] has joined #openbsd 22:28 < deepesttoaster> /dev/sd0g 508M 251M 232M 52% /usr/X11R6 22:28 < deepesttoaster> sysclean brought that down a bit 22:31 -!- Bradipo 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Anywhere.] 22:38 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.63.93] has joined #openbsd 22:38 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.63.93] has quit [Client Quit] 22:39 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.63.93] has joined #openbsd 22:41 -!- rc [~rc@user/rc] has joined #openbsd 22:42 < klsrqm> nice 22:42 -!- maxmocha [~spydermoc@24.235.91.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45 -!- owl_prince [~kvirc@user/owl-prince:09317] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:48 -!- djhankb93118359 [~djhankb@ip-208-113-164-68.nodes.dream.io] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49 -!- djhankb93118359 [~djhankb@ip-208-113-164-68.nodes.dream.io] has joined #openbsd 22:55 -!- librecat [uid714233@id-714233.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:57 < ssm_> mischief: well I need swap for my swap in case my swap runs out 23:01 -!- ublxi [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 23:04 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:04 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:6b00::1c19] has joined #openbsd 23:06 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 23:08 -!- keri_lee [~Keri@user/keri-lee:35304] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:09 -!- ublxi [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:11 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 23:20 -!- adip [~adip@c145-48.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:30 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #openbsd 23:30 -!- jerryf_ [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has joined #openbsd 23:36 < thrig> but who swaps the swappers 23:38 -!- Daze [~nobody@98.221.72.156] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45 -!- DebianSidUser [~quassel@185.9.78.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:45 -!- Daze [~nobody@98.221.72.156] has joined #openbsd 23:45 -!- DebianSidUser [~quassel@185.9.76.213] has joined #openbsd 23:48 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 23:48 -!- macabro [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:50 -!- DebianSidUser [~quassel@185.9.76.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:56 -!- DebianSidUser [~quassel@185.9.78.47] has joined #openbsd 23:58 -!- hotsoup_ [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has joined #openbsd 23:58 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Feb 04 00:00:08 2026