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01:09 < jmcunx> vortexx: was away.  running emacs and I do 'M-x shell'.  I tried this on Linux and NetBSD, same issue
01:09 < jmcunx> I do not use vi mode in emacs
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01:19 < jmcunx> mischief: I cannot get into github, but the maintainer is on USENET comp.unix.shell, when time permits I will retest and post that group
01:19 < Bradipo> jmcunx: Who needs github anyway!
01:19 < thrig> microsoft?
01:20 < jmcunx> neither do I :)
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03:47 < Bradipo> If I have a command that produces output that contains 0x00 (aka \000) characters in the output, is there a way to handle that sensibly in the shell?
03:48 < Bradipo> e.g. OUTPUT=$(command); printf '%s' "$OUTPUT"
03:48 < Bradipo> Will that preserve any binary data?
03:50 < pardis> I susped there is no way to assign it to a variable because iirc environment variables are stored as null-separated internally, and shell variables are very closely related to environment variables
03:50 < pardis> s/susped/suspect/
03:50 < pardis> you would probably have to pipe it directly to whatever program you want to handle it
03:50 < Bradipo> What seems to be happening is that null characters are being stripped entirely, while the rest of the string is left intact.
03:51 < Bradipo> e.g. DATA=$(printf 'a\0b\0c\0d\n\0'); echo "$DATA" | hexdump -C
03:51 < Bradipo> Produces: 00000000  61 62 63 64 0a                                    |abcd.|
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03:52 < pardis> that seems about as reasonable as one could expect for something ultimately stored as a C string
03:52 < Bradipo> Hmm, so maybe this is a job for a co-process...
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03:53 < Bradipo> I need to be able to capture the output and send it out as-is if there are no errors, but otherwise produce different output.
03:54 < Bradipo> D=$(command 2>&1) && { printf "$D" } || { printf "something else and $D" }
03:55 < Bradipo> So in other words, if command exits successfully, have the output go to stdout directly, or if it exits with an error, print out some other data and include the output.
03:55 < Bradipo> I'm trying to avoid writing it in C. :-)
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04:07 < Bradipo> Perhaps with a co-process, I can have the first process be the co-process and if there is no error, just cat <&p >&1
04:08 < Bradipo> If there is an error, do something else...
04:11 < Bradipo> Of course, then I cannot use #!/bin/sh and must use #!/bin/ksh
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04:35 < Bradipo> Hmm, I don't seem to be able to get the exit status of a co-processes.
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05:14 < Bradipo> Guess I'll have to get "clever" with sed and tr...
05:14 < Bradipo> Something like:
05:15 < Bradipo> D=$(command | sed -e 's/#/-=HASH=-/g' | tr \\0 \#)
05:15 < Bradipo> Then on output, reverse the smashing of the data.
05:16 < Bradipo> printf '%s' "$D" | tr \# \\0 | sed -e 's/-=HASH=-/#/g'
05:17 < Bradipo> Maybe I should choose a more random string than -=HASH=-
05:17 < Bradipo> But I find it unlikely that this will be in the output produced by command.
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05:26 < Bradipo> Or maybe just avoid sed and use: tr "\000" "\001"
05:26 < Bradipo> Since it's even less likely that 0x01 will be in the data.
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07:13 < rnkn> I'm getting an error when trying to send an API request from my Mojolicious app: "Can't connect: service not supported for ai_socktype at ..."
07:13 < rnkn> seems isolated to OpenBSD
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07:37 < rnkn> figured it out
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16:28 < lts> rnkn: please do share what was the answer
16:30 < lts> https://0x0.st/Pcj9.jpg is not nice
16:32 < bombuzal> lol
16:37 < thrig> xkcd://979
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16:39 < lts> ^
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18:00 < thrig> hmm, |||| is a valid ex command (if there are enough lines in the file)
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18:07 < Bradipo> thrig: I've never used |... I guess it moves the cursor to a column position?
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18:10 < thrig> it's a separator, so you can do append|foo or chain commands
18:13 < thrig> also I said "ex command" not keys for visual mode
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19:55 < luna__> hi
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21:02 < jrmu> where can I find the definition for clock_t ? I need to know how many bits it contains
21:06 < phy1729> include/time.h:typedef  __clock_t       clock_t;            sys/sys/_types.h:typedef        __int64_t       __clock_t;      /* ticks in CLOCKS_PER_SEC */
21:07 < jrmu> ok so 64 bit signed int? thanks phy1729 
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21:28 < polarian> https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/fosdem/2026/k3201/YTYUAH-openbsd-router.av1.webm <--- Recording is up for my talk at FOSDEM 
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21:44 < deimosBSD> go you
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21:44 < stuart> Neat :)
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21:48 < deimosBSD> I have to use the mp4 flavor of the video for it to work
21:49 < phy1729> mpv 'https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/fosdem/2026/k3201/YTYUAH-openbsd-router.av1.webm'   works here
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