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00:51 < treefrob> thrig and afresh1: thanks
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01:38 < yang3> Hello, I am unable to find information if OpenBSD is running on OLPC (One Laptop Per Child) arm laptops?
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02:03 < thrig> some folks post dmesg to sites
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02:22 < mischief> yang3: hows your lemote?
02:23 < mischief> hm, maybe i should revisit openbsd on the clockwork pi
02:24 < mischief> uconsole
02:31 < yang3> mischief hi, I havent powered the lemote in a couple of months now, I got some other vintage hardware in between, a few SBC's and a Nintendo DS lite (which supposedly runs custom Linux DS OS)
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02:32 < yang3> yeeloong is making "lots" of noise during compilation time
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02:32 < yang3> the fan is not perfect, its a known error
02:32 < yang3> so I don't like to have it powered on a lot
02:32 < thrig> spinny disks had the advantage of letting you know when they were failing sometimes
02:33 < yang3> yes
02:33 < yang3> i have HDD inside
02:33 < yang3> or maybe i placed an SATA SSD inside, i dont remember
02:33 < yang3> it still makes the fan go loud, when the CPU goes up while compiling
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04:40 < spuos> ok I just spent 2 hours trying to get networking working how I want and I have had no luck 
04:41 < spuos> all I want to do is have my normal lan interface and another one coexist 
04:41 < spuos> on the same subnet 
04:42 < spuos> but for some reason even the obsd firewall won't let me ping the client on the second network 
04:42 < spuos> despite the fact it clearly gave it an ip 
04:42 < rnkn> in lieu of a bouncer, I'd like to run the catgirl IRC client in a loop inside tmux on my server. is this a bad idea? https://paste.sr.ht/~rnkn/987251a85f2cf5d7fdb40b9d34aaf57a841b10ee
04:42 < spuos> is there a way to give them the same ip without adding latency like the bridge interface
04:43 < spuos> or anything else 
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04:57 < mischief> the latency of bridge/veb is pretty minimal
04:59 < mischief> my lan latency to my openbsd gateway using veb is about 300 microseconds, and it's not even a fast machine
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05:14 < spuos> back
05:14 < mischief> spuos: since you missed it
05:14 < mischief> the latency of bridge/veb is pretty minimal
05:14 < mischief> my lan latency to my openbsd gateway using veb is about 300 microseconds, and it's not even a fast machine
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05:15 < mischief> perhaps you could get away with using multiple rdomains but this seems like a silly thing to want
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05:50 < rnkn> if I'm allowing untrusted (or semi-trusted) unprivileged users on a server is there a way to log their shell commands e.g. like doas logging?
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06:04 < mischief> rnkn: not really no
06:05 < quinq> rnkn, have a look at accton
06:06 < rnkn> mischief: thanks, yeah I kinda just want to trust users and rely on OpenBSD's security, not police everyone
06:06 < rnkn> quinq: yep, got that enabled
06:07 < quinq> ok
06:08 < quinq> What's the actual thing you're trying to avoid?
06:08 < quinq> (or things)
06:08 < quinq> I'd say chroot them, that'll avoid several type of issues
06:11 < mischief> when i ran a shell server i trusted most of the users to not do anything terrible, but i did have some binaries set -x and quota on, among others
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06:12 < rnkn> quinq: I don't really know, I'm building an artist portfolio site with shell access, which will be paid (i.e. credit card provided) so I can't imagine anything too malicious, but everyone I tell this too says something about security
06:12 < rnkn> mischief: which binaries?
06:13 < rnkn> (I mean everyone on IRC)
06:13 < mischief> its been too long for me to remember, it was like 10 years ago
06:13 < rnkn> ah
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06:16 < thrig> credit card processing probably should be through a different system, at least
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06:22 < rnkn> thrig: oh of course, it's via stripe, I'm not gonna keep any CC details
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06:27 < quinq> rnkn, I'd say chroot then
06:28 < rnkn> quinq: do I then give everyone their own ksh binaries?
06:29 < rnkn> and probably mg, vi, tmux
06:29 < rnkn> hmm, seems it would become unweildy
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08:13 < rnkn> I've set user /home quotas with edquota -t quotauser rnkn, which are reported accurately with the repquota /home command, but the quota command still says "Disk quotas for user rnkn (uid 1000): none"
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08:29 < IcePic> rnkn: perhaps a silly question but did you quotaon(8) the fs?
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08:41 < rnkn> IcePic: I did. also tried mount -u. if I doas edquota rnkn I see the correct quota amounts
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09:51 < supaman> do I have any options in OpenBSD if I want to read an external HDD that (attached via USB) is uses the Linux LVM system? doesn't seem like OpenBSD can read that disk directly and I don't think I can hardware pass that USB to a VM that runs linux.
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09:52 < supaman> is my only options to boot of a Linux USB if I want to read this disk from my laptop that only has OpenBSD running?
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09:59 < IcePic> probably, yes
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10:05 < supaman> ok, thanks, just wanted to get a second opinion :-)
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14:42 < polarian> vortexx: thats cool!
14:42 < polarian> I still want to see if I can pick up an APU2 for networking 
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14:54 < supaman> only used APUÃ's are available from now on, it stopped being produced sometime last year I think when AMD pulled the plug on the CPU it uses.
14:56 < supaman> in case you didn't know ;-)
14:56 < sibiria> nice with ~3 NICs on them, but pretty sluggish machines all in all
14:56 < supaman> yeah, not built for speed
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19:43 < sibiria> anyone who knows how cputime in login.conf behaves? does it alter scheduling to reduce CPU time allotment, or is it a form of accounting that puts the user on hold completely when the usage limit is reached?
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19:56 < sonya> sibiria: as it's Type is 'time' it's documented in $ man login.conf right above AUTHENTICATION section..
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20:07 < sibiria> yes, but it doesn't explain whether the behavior is scheduling or accounting. it looks like accounting, but no apparent information on what happens when the limit is crossed
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20:17 < sibiria> i suppose ultimately it's forced into segfault
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20:35 < mischief> sibiria: possibly SIGXCPU, which i've seen on linux before with realtime scheduling, i but didn't check the openbsd kernel code
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22:12 < thrig> have a program chew up cpu then put limits on it, see if other user processes are affected, etc
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