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06:06 < cgnarne> mischief: https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-05-01-ipfs-openbsd-69.html
06:07 < mischief> indeed, i've read solene's blog and setup a similar thing as well.
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06:37 < rtj> Yeah her blog is off the chain. I'd love to throw her some coin if I was working and not poor.
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06:39 < rtj> I'd love to find a chick with a brain like that lol.
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06:40 < mischief> solene unfortunately left the openbsd world some time ago
06:40 < rtj> Ok sorry to hear that. I wish her the best! I hope she comes back.
06:40 < rtj> Thanks for the intel.
06:41 < mischief> https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2024-11-15-why-i-stopped-using-openbsd.html
06:41 < rtj> ty sir
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06:46 < cgnarne> hmm. i've never lost data with ffs, don't know what some people are doing. do i want a "better" fs for OpenBSD? sure. but, eh, works well enough
06:48 < IcePic> there is a point to journaling fs's, and that is that if you have a large fs with zillions of files and the computer crashes when you are not writing to it, on the next boot it can verify that the journal says its idle, so you can skip fsck
06:51 < cgnarne> something with snapshots that's not zfs would be nice
06:54 < IcePic> I think solaris had ffs with snapshots and journals at the end of solaris
06:55 < IcePic> but as with most things from sun, its probably cddl-licensed or so
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06:56 < rtj> There was an awesome post on @misc a few years ago. Dude rolled his own zfs like system with obsd. I'm sure it's on the mailing list archive. I'd try searching there too. 
06:56 < cgnarne> maybe someone gets around to finish the hammerfs Port and annoys theo into merging it
06:57 < rtj> Lot's of people have asked the same question. Might save you some time.
06:59 < oldlaptop> freebsd has had journals for (basically) ffs for quite a while - my loose understanding is that they think it wasn't worth the effort (for ffs, specifically)
07:00 < oldlaptop> (and being freebsd that "they" includes people like McKusick who, uh, know a thing or two about ffs)
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07:01 < IcePic> oldlaptop: yes, I think Kirk coded the sun version too
07:02 < IcePic> and fbsd tried to use snapshots for doing "late" fsck in parallel with normal boot, but at the time (with many having IDE disks for machines) the extra io was just costing too much perf
07:02 < IcePic> now, with nvmes and things, it may be totally different, but then again fbsd has zfs so..
07:03 < dg> rtj: is muxfs the one you're thinking of? it still has a warning to not use it on the github repo
07:04 < dg> (although -current has support for low level fuse APIs, which could be useful for things like this, but it's still fuse...)
07:04 < cgnarne> maybe those stories about data loss came from people who had softdep enabled.  because softdep WILL fuck your shit up eventually
07:04 < mischief> fuse has its own bugs
07:05 < mischief> i talked about a similar problem to this in irc while i was working on rclone a while back https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=177151611702601&w=2
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07:12 < rtj> dg: Yes! That sounds right thank you! Yes I remember he warned everybody. It was so cool that he shared it though. Thank you so much!
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19:19 < quinq> Is there a guide about relayd for simple humans?
19:20 < uwharrie> quinq: have you looked at https://mwl.io/archives/2954 ?
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19:21 < uwharrie> https://mwl.link/httpd-and-relayd-mastery.html is a better link
19:23 < quinq> Thank you, it's interesting though I was thinking about something not necessarily of ~250 pages :D
19:24 < uwharrie> it's not a "type this command/push this button and you're done" type program
19:24 < pardis> as someone who has wrestled with relayd configs on numerous occasions and still uses it when appropriate, if you want something easy to configure, I suggest pkg_add nginx
19:24 < pardis> relayd's config is very leaky, in terms of exposing implementation details of the program
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19:26 < quinq> Well, maybe something in the middle, uwharrie :)
19:26 < uwharrie> I'll second the nginx recommendation
19:27 < as400> https://2023.eurobsdcon.org/slides/eurobsdcon2023-joel_carnat-relayd.pdf is short and clear
19:30 < quinq> That looks very well like what I needed, thank you as400 
19:30 < quinq> And thank you uwharrie and pardis too of course :)
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19:41 < as400> quinq you're welcome
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19:41 < as400> recently I messing with relayd myself
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19:42 < as400> I wonder is it possible to add PROXY header to tcp relays https://www.haproxy.org/download/1.8/doc/proxy-protocol.txt
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20:42 < mischief> as400: there was a message on the mailing list about it recently
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