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04:43 < calciume> https://thelounge.calciu.me/uploads/3e0a40ea0bbea0f5/image.png been having eye strain issues so I put the openbsd man pages on my e-reader >:)
04:43 < calciume> https://thelounge.calciu.me/uploads/4ba35be5dc307038/image.png Even the table of contents works!
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05:13 < deimosBSD> I have a silly question about httpd.conf, can I do something like this? directory { index index.(html|txt) }. I clearly cannot because index expects a string, but I want httpd to look for index.html or index.txt in /var/www/htdocs
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05:42 < mischief> deimosBSD: it's a fixed string. sorry.
05:42 < deimosBSD> yeah, i just read the source
05:42 < deimosBSD> i'll just work around it with a different location
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07:52 < moviuro> IcePic: FYI, pflogd now workign as expected -rw-------  1 root  wheel  214075 Feb 27 08:51 pflog
07:52 < moviuro> thanks!
07:53 < IcePic> moviuro: happy to help
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14:27 < jab> I'm trying to figure out how to use httpd so that hurdos.com is static, except for the store ( hurdos.com/store ), which is WordPress.  I've got WordPress set up locally, and hurdos.com.local/store/wp-admin/index.php works just fine.  But hurdos.com.local/store/wp-admin/ shows forbidden.  and hurdos.com.local/store/  also shows forbidden.  hurdos.com.local/store/index.php lets me download the php file instead of running it...I'm 
14:27 < jab> guessing that somehow "directory index index.php" is not being honored.  What am I doing wrong ?
14:27 < jab> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/9bf9fc30  
14:28 < jab> Wordpress is at /var/www/htdocs/hurdos.com/store/
14:29 < jab> maybe I'll try a request rewrite
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14:34 < mischief> you need to use fastcgi in a location block
14:35 < jab> that's there.  :)
14:35 < jab> in the paste that I posted.
14:36 < mischief> tbf i didnt read it
14:36 < IcePic> boo
14:36 < jab> and I know it works, because hurdos.com.local/wp-admin/index.php works.
14:36 < mischief> but, you need to pass variables to fastcgi.. it knows nothing of 'directory index'
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14:37 < jab> I'll read up on the fastcgi spot now to try to figure it out.  thanks.
14:37 < jab> I'm reading man httpd.conf obviously
14:42 < mischief> is that the only server block you have?
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14:49 < jab> no.  I can share the whole file if you like.
14:49 < jab> every file in there is just served locally.  It's not a server.  It's what's on my laptop. 
14:50 < Bradipo> But you're using httpd as a server on your laptop.  It has a server block.
14:51 < Bradipo> https://man.openbsd.org/httpd.conf#Servers
14:51 < jab> Bradipo: I mean to say that it is a server...but it's only serving locally.
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14:53 < jab> full httpd.conf https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2812d426  
14:55 < Bradipo> And your concern is with lines 28--40?
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14:56 < jab> yup! 
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14:56 < Bradipo> Does it work?
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14:58 < jab> hurdos.com.local/ is all a static website.  but hurdos.com.local/store is all wordpress.  hurdos.com.local/wp-admin/index.php  works.  but hurdos.com.local/store/index.php doesn't work.  The browser just downloads index.php
15:00 < Bradipo> Have you restarted httpd after making any changes?
15:00 < jab> yup.
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15:02 < jab> weird now /wp-admin/index.php isn't working anymore, but it was before.
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15:05 < jab> nevermind, /wp-admin/index.php works again. 
15:06 < jab> I'm going to try fiddling with wordpress' permalinks settings.
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15:09 < jab> well messing around with the permalinks I think I found a solution.
15:10 < jab> hurdos.com.local/store/index.php/store/ now works.  it looks weird, but whatever.
15:10 < jab> well maybe it didn't work...
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15:24 < jab> maybe I'll try store.hurdos.com.local
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15:26 < jab> well store.hurdos.com.local works
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15:31 < jab> here's the httpd.conf that I'm using now
15:31 < jab> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/7e8aac55 
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16:13 < mischief> jab: might help if you run httpd with httpd -ddvv or so in a root shell and watch the output
16:14 < jab> I could try that I suppose.  I was trying httpd -d before... 
16:14 < jab> but I think I've got it working fairly well with store.hurdos.com.local.
16:14 < jab> thanks though!
16:15 < jab> I am pretty excited to be running WordPress on openBSD.  
16:15 < jab> first timer here.
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16:35 < eea> a whole wordpress on openbsd in openhttpd?
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16:36 < eea> pics/wiki/confs or it didn't happen ;)
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16:44 < jab> it's all running locally at the moment.
16:44 < jab> is there a good upload this free pic site somewhere ?
16:44 < jab> actually I might have an idea...
16:45 < jab> actually I'm gonna try to get more work done.  You'll see it at store.hurdos.com  at some point.
16:48 < Bradipo> I haven't found a decent place for pasting pics.
16:48 < Bradipo> You could try https://0x0.st/
16:50 < Bradipo> Seems the site isn't happy though.  A lot of HATE on it.
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17:14 < sibiria> imgur.com works
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17:15 < Bradipo> imgur.com requires account, no?
17:15 < sibiria> they never required an account
17:16 < Bradipo> Oh, well, last time I tried, it wasn't obvious how to upload without one.
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17:16 < Bradipo> Besides, imgur has all kinds of garbage on it, who needs that.
17:16 < sibiria> big green [+ new post] button in top left
17:18 < pardis> imgur only works if you're not in the UK
17:19 < pardis> and if you don't intend for anyone in the UK to see your images
17:19 < sibiria> "only", as if UK was the world
17:19 < sibiria> but yeah they had to shut down there for a lot of reasons
17:19 < pardis> I would expect few people sharing images on an IRC channel would plan to exclude a population of 69 million, doesn't need to be the whole world
17:19 < sibiria> imo imgur has become a politicized extremist cesspool, but all the same it still works great for non-brits to anonymously share images quickly
17:20 < sibiria> i'd expect the same. and also that nowhere near the full 69 million citizens are britain hang out in here in this channel
17:20 < sibiria> of britain*
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17:20 < mikewilzn> I always forget you can actually browse imgur
17:22 < thrig> pretty sure imgur turned into a javascript app at some point
17:22 < sibiria> something like that. they used to have a simple API for uploading images, but i'm not sure if it's available still
17:23 < sibiria> was a single POST with multipart form-data, response contained direct link to the image ec.
17:23 < sibiria> etc.*
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17:27 < dansa> I have https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/ in my /etc/installurl. When I now try to use pkg_add or pkg_info, I get "https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD//7.6/packages/amd64/: no such dir". What I have done wrong? Or perhaps---what have I not done?
17:28 < sibiria> you may have landed on a mirror that simply no longer exists. using the CDN can be hit-or-miss sometimes
17:29 < sibiria> just try another one
17:29 < ivdsangen> maybe you need a specific mirror that has 7.6
17:30 < sibiria> ah, yeah, that could be it too. not all of them keep more than current and previous
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17:35 < Bradipo> dansa: You can remove the extra slash at the end of your installurl string. :-)
17:37 < Bradipo> That won't likely eliminate the 404, but at least it will clean up the URL.
17:40 < eea> a federated free pastebin all powered by pf/relayd/openhttpd/perl running on openbsd 
17:40 < eea> somebody stop me, that sounds like fightin words
17:40 < sibiria> do it
17:40 < eea> i have some openbsd servers on the internets... ipv4 and ipv6
17:40 < eea> who wants in on the revolution?
17:41 < mischief> eea: i have that, but lua, and no perl or httpd (just relayd)
17:41 < dansa> Thanks, Bradipo, sibiria and ivdsangen. I found https://openbsd.as250.net/pub/OpenBSD to work. I guess I've taken a step towards being left in the past?  Should I upgrade to 7.8?  This is a home system.
17:41 < eea> mischief: you and me should have a coffee...
17:41 < mischief> i suppose it's also not 'federated'
17:42 < sibiria> dansa: thou shalt always be up-to-date
17:42 < eea> federated, like a rag tag bunch of misfits running sane servers in a poorman's CDN
17:42 < dansa> Yes, sir! (I gotta obey if you talk to me with this bible language.)
17:42 < mischief> /usr/games/fortune | curl --data-binary @- https://p.offblast.org/
17:42 < dansa> I'll look into how to do it. Thanks a lot.
17:42 < mischief> it's missing a lot, but i wrote it in a day or so
17:43 < Bradipo> dansa: You'll want to upgrade to 7.7 first.
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17:47 < dansa> Bradipo: thanks for the precious information.
17:48 < dansa> It's a home system I spent an entire vacation setting it up. I want to care for it like a baby---which is why I usually don't look forward to ugprades. :>
17:48 < uwharrie> what issues have you had upgrading in the past?
17:48 < dansa> (You know, to upgrade.)
17:48 < Bradipo> Yeah, I know what you mean.  OpenBSD upgrades are usually not a big todo.
17:48 < dansa> With OpenBSD none. But I was a Windows user.
17:49 < dansa> It's just that any change gets me worried.
17:49 < Bradipo> You don't have to upgrade, you just won't get a lot of help if you're on older versions.
17:49 < Bradipo> I have a server that is still running 7.2
17:49 < eea> dansa: welcome to sanity then... every 6 months like clockwork super easy... syspatch,sysupgrade,reboot,syspatch,pkg_add -u 
17:50 < eea> every once in awhile config syntax may shift.. sysmerge gets thrown in with clear instructions
17:50 < Bradipo> dansa: If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?
17:50 < dansa> eea sounds optimistic and Bradipo not so much
17:51 < dansa> Yeah---I'm like that. Why change if I'm all happy?
17:51 < eea> dansa: that is my literal experience with openbsd since v5.3
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17:51 < dansa> eea: sounds great; thanks for sharing that.
17:51 < Bradipo> Depends on the system.  My laptop I upgrade more regularly.
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17:52 < dansa> Yeah---this is a home system (a work system, sort of).  It's not a server.
17:52 < Bradipo> The one caveat is that you need to check release notes before you upgrade.
17:52 < dansa> That's pretty good info too.
17:52 < Bradipo> Sometimes things that you depend on might not get built with a specific release for various reasons.
17:52 < dansa> I tell you what---I can wait for another release.
17:53 < Bradipo> You can find a mirror that hosts 7.6 packages, and then you'll be fine.
17:53 < Bradipo> I'm sure I'm a heretic for not pushing the latest.
17:53 < Bradipo> But it really isn't that bad.
17:53 < Bradipo> I mean it's not that bad to upgrade.
17:53 < dansa> I found one: https://openbsd.as250.net/pub/OpenBSD
17:54 < Bradipo> 7.6 isn't too far behind.  Once you get behind 7--8 releases then it becomes a challenge to upgrade and more of a big todo.
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17:54 < dansa> I'll upgrade, but I'll just wait a bit more.
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18:20 < systemdsucks> https://www.pcgamer.com/software/operating-systems/a-new-california-law-says-all-operating-systems-including-linux-need-to-have-some-form-of-age-verification-at-account-setup/
18:20 < pe> lol
18:20 < systemdsucks> i wonder how can they force openbsd to comply with this stupidity
18:21 < phy1729> Let's avoid politics please
18:22 < Bradipo> California is also passing "laws" that make it so 3d printers have to phone the government to see if the model that it is printing is "approved".
18:22 < systemdsucks> phy1729: it's quite relevant
18:22 < phy1729> No really. Politics isn't topical here.
18:22 < systemdsucks> ok let's keep the head in the sand
18:23 < phy1729> Or another channel I'm sure you can find one with alis
18:23 < Bradipo> There's #openbsd-social but it's unlikely that any discussion will accomplish anything.
18:23 < systemdsucks> don't know wtf is alis
18:24 < phy1729> It's a services bot /msg alis help
18:24 < Bradipo> Haha, never heard of alis.
18:24 < systemdsucks> good to know
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18:28 < deimosBSD> i'm guessing some talking head brought up the topic and now people are asking about it
18:30 < phy1729> Please drop it.
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18:35 < Bradipo> deimosBSD: Streisand effect?
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