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connection] 00:45 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:46 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 00:50 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 00:52 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 00:53 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 00:55 < deimosBSD> cation: what hardware has the com0/console issue? 00:58 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Client Quit] 00:58 -!- fixou [~fixou@82-65-227-98.subs.proxad.net] has joined #openbsd 00:59 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 01:02 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Client Quit] 01:04 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 01:04 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 01:09 -!- freakazoid332 [~frkazoid3@2603-900b-46f0-b390-4a1d-0f01-a761-0d94.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:11 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 01:14 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@172.83.160.179] has quit [Changing host] 01:14 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has joined #openbsd 01:17 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:18 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 01:18 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:19 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has joined #openbsd 01:19 -!- frkazoid333 [~frkazoid3@2603-900b-46f0-b390-b95f-c3d3-aa00-a670.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined #openbsd 01:20 -!- Bradipo [ty68jz9ii5@50.77.44.19] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:21 * oldlaptop intends to run apu4s until they won't run anymore 01:22 < byteskeptical> name checks out 01:22 < oldlaptop> it's newer than any laptop I'd pay good money for 01:23 < oldlaptop> (I think even including the one 'special' run of thinkpad T480s or whatever with decent keyboards) 01:23 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 01:25 < byteskeptical> lol hey I get it newer hardware definitely doesn't have the same attraction for me either though my line may be slightly not as old as your perhaps 01:26 * deimosBSD holds out for photonic quantum computers as the next purchase 01:27 < byteskeptical> I'll expect an arch port for openbsd from you then 01:29 < deimosBSD> though the physics of quantum state, the arch port will both exist and not exist at once 01:29 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30 < deimosBSD> although, I'd take a fully functional trusted execution environment vm/system in openbsd at this point 01:32 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has joined #openbsd 01:36 -!- lac [~lac@user/prettywellred] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1] 01:39 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:39 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 01:40 < cation> deimosBSD: Protectli VP2420 01:41 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has joined #openbsd 01:44 -!- hotsoup_ [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:48 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:48 < deimosBSD> one of the newer VP protectli models needs a bios chance to force it to use serial console without hdmi 01:48 < deimosBSD> s/chance/change/ 01:50 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 01:55 -!- sandmanXpuff [~sandmanXp@user/sandmanXpuff] has joined #openbsd 01:55 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 01:57 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 02:01 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit 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username-password authenticating HTTPS CONNECT proxy for openbsd, preferably one event-driven through kqueue instead of polling, what are the candidates? 09:11 -!- Rue_ [~rue@1-162-183-220.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.7.1] 09:11 < gtlwuc> would squid do? 09:12 < gtlwuc> or rather can i set up relayd/httpd for this, with or without custom components? 09:17 -!- hotsoup_ [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:18 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has joined #openbsd 09:22 -!- nnn [~txt@2a01:4f9:3b:3e66::21:82] has joined #openbsd 09:24 -!- vados [~vados@46-133-140-234.mobile.vf-ua.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:27 -!- Rue_ [~rue@1-162-183-220.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has joined #openbsd 09:29 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29 -!- jerryf_ [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #openbsd 09:29 -!- Rue_ [~rue@1-162-183-220.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:29 -!- Rue_ 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and matching rdns works. make sure your tld is "approved" (org net com) or you'll get spamlisted. corpomail is shit 11:14 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14 < morpho> that is not too bad 11:14 < ssm_> you'll also need to dkim sign (see opensmtpd-filter-dkimsign port) all mail routing outbound through your server, and set up dmarc 11:14 < morpho> thought the sittuation was much worse 11:14 < ssm_> it's not as bad as people make it out to be, but it's still annoying 11:15 < morpho> is that what you do 11:15 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 11:15 < ssm_> yes 11:16 < ssm_> static ip and rdns are the big "gatekeeps" for corpomail. if you don't care about corpomail, you can host just fine on residential connections 11:16 < morpho> i have the vps but no domain 11:16 < morpho> yet 11:17 -!- jds [~jds@user/jds] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:18 < sibiria> ssm_: i don't think the TLD really has any bearing in practice on systems spamlisting a domain or sender. at least i've never encountered this myself, or read about it being a thing 11:18 < ssm_> it is a thing, and it's the only thing raising my spam score and I get spamlisted. 11:18 < ssm_> my tld is .work 11:19 < sibiria> what entity is listing you and with what explanation? 11:19 -!- jds [~jds@user/jds] has joined #openbsd 11:19 -!- spikewall [~spikewall@dynamic-077-002-254-181.77.2.pool.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:20 < ssm_> PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD from spamassassin 11:22 -!- spikewall [~spikewall@dynamic-095-117-173-027.95.117.pool.telefonica.de] has joined #openbsd 11:22 < ssm_> also FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD_FP 11:22 < ssm_> https://www.mail-tester.com/test-y5tjpxr33&reloaded=1 11:23 < sibiria> is it a default list with spamassassin or custom set at the receiving MX? 11:24 < ssm_> I don't know how to check that for gmail/protonmail, nothing for spam in the headers so I'm just guessing 11:32 < sibiria> would indeed be pretty atrocius if spamassassin themselves keep a default list for this 11:32 < sibiria> damning, even 11:42 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47 -!- cobra_ [~cobra@user/Cobra] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:47 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:47 -!- cobra [~cobra@user/Cobra] has joined #openbsd 11:48 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 11:51 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:6b00::1c19] has joined #openbsd 11:56 -!- cupnoodle [~molidae@2401:4900:6294:99cd:567c:f5a0:5356:17c7] has quit [Changing host] 11:56 -!- cupnoodle [~molidae@user/cupnoodle] has joined #openbsd 11:56 < cupnoodle> Hello,Im tring to boot up Openbsd in qemu with these parameters https://bpa.st/X3SGM, but after calculating the disk size it pauses without any output. I have tried setting "consdev com0" in dropdown terminal but it returns with no such command. 11:58 < klsrqm> can you try adding a graphical output interface for now, at least with curses? would help 11:58 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:6b00::1c19] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:59 -!- grimpeux [~grimpeux@modemcable116.16-178-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:59 < klsrqm> you may need to redirect openbsd output to console too 11:59 < klsrqm> "set tty com0" on the OpenBSD boot prompt 12:00 < IcePic> I would try without virtfs, not sure if directory sharing is supported 12:00 < klsrqm> If you can mount the OpenBSD installer and edit /etc/boot.conf on it; you might want to add these two lines: 12:00 < klsrqm> stty com0 9600 12:00 < klsrqm> set tty com0 12:04 -!- izder456 [~izder456@2a13:e3c1:400e:1337::664] has joined #openbsd 12:04 -!- franks2 [~franks2@user/franks2] has joined #openbsd 12:09 < cupnoodle> Thankyou, I tried the method recommende without nographic and swithcing it to com0 but the installer is stuck now with the output "switching output to com0" 12:09 < klsrqm> iirc you should be able to view com0 output in the QEmu console? 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Also why use the worst of the file systems out there by default? On OpenBSD you have FFS1/2, ext2fs, and even ntfs. no need to mess with fat/exfat which introduces a host of permission problems 14:28 < vortexx> (ntfs is readonly) 14:29 -!- sdds_ [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 14:30 < IcePic> I think for writes at least, usb on obsd will be more "sync" than async, which might look like poor performance unless you benchmark with "test-cmd ; umount /dev/sdX" aswell, so that all OSes that pretend-write to the stick actually has to flush the data to the drive and not just leave a few gigs in ram write buffers 14:30 -!- sdds_ [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 14:33 < morpho> im building a file server and only have 1 drive slot 14:34 -!- franks2 [~franks2@user/franks2] has joined #openbsd 14:34 < morpho> does ext2 work natively, i thought it went through fuse fs 14:34 -!- izder456 [~izder456@2a13:e3c1:400e:1337::664] has joined #openbsd 14:35 -!- cupnoodle 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kris_ [~kris_@user/kris-:46098] has joined #openbsd 15:07 < sibiria> openbsd has software raid 0, 1 and 5. i recommend avoiding all of it 15:08 < IcePic> its not very hard to make network backups to 1-2-3 other devices somewhere over the net 15:09 < IcePic> probably better than raid-1/5 if you want to rescue data on disk loss 15:12 -!- jds [~jds@user/jds] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13 -!- jds [~jds@user/jds] has joined #openbsd 15:15 -!- witcher [~witcher@2001:4090:e007:9581:1d95:bc50:66d1:7f29] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:19 < vortexx> morpho: well it's mostly installing and configuring linux on people's computers and doing workshops on various internet subjects, the first one was on privacy online, the next will be on password manager best practices I think 15:19 < vortexx> (we've only just begun down the path of workshops) 15:21 < vortexx> there's always altroot as well, although I've never used that. 15:21 -!- hitest [~hitest@user/hitest] has 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ssm_: sounds like missing intermediaries, which the browsers sometimes bring along themselves 15:27 -!- Bradipo [r0vfoh6k0o@50.77.44.19] has joined #openbsd 15:27 -!- mikewilzn [~mikewilzn@user/mikewilzn] has joined #openbsd 15:34 -!- klsrqm [~klsrqm@user/klsrqm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35 -!- gtlwuc [uid621242@user/gtlwuc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:36 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@rsa59-h05-176-133-210-176.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #openbsd 15:37 < vortexx> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#altroot there we go 15:38 -!- euphores [~SASL_euph@user/euphores] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:39 -!- root4 [~kayvlim@user/kayvlim] has joined #openbsd 15:41 -!- klsrqm [~klsrqm@user/klsrqm] has joined #openbsd 15:41 -!- jab [~user@user/jab] has joined #openbsd 15:42 -!- ivanbu [~weechat@93.176.165.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:50 -!- ivanbu [~weechat@93.176.165.202] has joined #openbsd 15:50 < ssm_> IcePic: I generated csr and ext files per ssl(8), swapped out for a self-signed certificate, made sure it worked, moved it out of the way, and regenerated certs with acme-client; but I still get error 20 15:52 < sibiria> is the root ca in the bundle? 15:52 < sibiria> are the certs in the correct order? 15:53 < sibiria> the necessary order is leaf, intermediates, root ca 15:53 < Bradipo> error 20? 15:54 -!- zcram [~zcram@user/zcram] has joined #openbsd 15:56 < ssm_> this is my tls line in relayd.conf `tls { keypair howdoesmycode.work ca file "/etc/ssl/cert.pem" no tlsv1.2 }` adding ca file directive doesn't change behavior 15:57 < ssm_> Bradipo: Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate), bloatbrowsers work fine, ftp(1) and s_client throw this 15:58 < sibiria> your cert, not the system bundle 15:58 < sibiria> i.e. the one referenced by "keypair" 15:59 -!- rain0r [~rainer@p200300e2ef226e00c8d7a1fffe483d6c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:59 < ssm_> relayd.conf says that should be pulled in by keypair unless I'm reading it wrong 16:00 < sibiria> your cert file needs to contain not your just leaf but also the intermediates and ideally also the root ca 16:00 < sibiria> a so-called "full-chain cert" 16:00 < sibiria> not just your* 16:00 < ssm_> I see, I have that installed to a separate file, is it normal to install that to .crt? 16:00 < sibiria> that's how you create a full-chain cert 16:00 < sibiria> leaf, intermediates, root. in that order 16:03 < sibiria> that is, each signatory must come immediately after the cert it signed 16:03 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has joined #openbsd 16:03 -!- user_with_nouser [~user_with@user/user-with-nouser:54838] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:05 < vortexx> found my pledge problem: had to apply all syspatches in the proot made chroot! 16:05 < ssm_> makes sense, I think. moving *.fullchain.pem over *.crt did the thing. 16:05 < ssm_> guessing I can remove domain cert since I really just 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20:02 < vortexx> blame the various code bases 20:02 < aaronm04> ah I see. Thanks 20:03 -!- topcat001 [~topcat001@user/topcat001] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:03 < vortexx> it'd be nice if there was one true autoconf but... 20:03 < aaronm04> I'm just surprised there is enough incompatibility to justify 19 versions 20:04 -!- topcat001 [~topcat001@user/topcat001] has joined #openbsd 20:05 < sibiria> GNU 20:05 < aaronm04> gotcha 20:05 < sibiria> just GNU things 20:05 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 20:06 < aaronm04> right 20:08 < mischief> down with autotools 20:08 < mischief> i use meson in every project i write 20:09 < mischief> i wince every time i run a build and i see configure taking 3 minutes and running dumb as fuck subprocesses like 'sleep 3' 20:09 -!- itrsea [~itrsea@user/itrsea] has quit [Quit: itrsea] 20:09 < pe> I hope I won't have to touch Meson again. 20:09 < pe> (Autotools have passed me by.) 20:10 < mischief> pick your poison 20:10 < mischief> for me, meson is the easiest to drink 20:10 < mischief> cmake sucks and autotools sucks and everything else is a footnote 20:12 < mischief> vortexx: why does openbsd need multiple versions when other build systems do not? 20:12 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:14 < uwharrie> A glance at /usr/ports/devel/autoconf/*/patches/ would be informative 20:15 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 20:20 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:21 < uwharrie> My understanding is that after the pain of getting a specific version to even work, then fighting to figure out which available version properly runs for a package that need it, there's not a lot of desire to revisit that process for every new potential breaking autoconf+package version bump 20:24 -!- zcram [~zcram@user/zcram] has quit [Quit: Do the right thing.] 20:31 -!- raj [uid72176@user/raj] has joined #openbsd 20:39 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:46 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 20:46 -!- guvnor [~42@user/guvnor] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:48 < vortexx> mischief: everyone has multiple version as far as I can tell 20:49 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has joined #openbsd 20:50 < vortexx> from FreeBSD: pkg search autoconf | wc 20:50 < vortexx> 6 41 432 20:50 < vortexx> ok they have less 20:50 < vortexx> but still 6 versions 20:52 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 20:54 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54 -!- akinji [~akinji@user/akinji] has joined #openbsd 20:55 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 20:55 -!- marcdimarco4 [~marcdimar@user/marcdimarco] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 20:59 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 21:04 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05 -!- znedw4542621 [~znedw@2400:a846:4040::bc0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06 -!- at_work_has_died [~at_work@user/at-work/x-5282331] has joined #openbsd 21:06 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 21:06 -!- znedw4542621 [~znedw@2400:a846:4040::bc0] has joined #openbsd 21:07 -!- at_work [~at_work@user/at-work/x-5282331] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:09 -!- at_work_has_died is now known as at_work 21:12 -!- zorone [~zorone@user/zorone] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:13 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 21:15 -!- znedw4542621 [~znedw@2400:a846:4040::bc0] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:16 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 21:18 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 21:21 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Client Quit] 21:23 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 21:23 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 21:25 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:26 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 21:27 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Client Quit] 21:27 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has joined #openbsd 21:27 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has joined #openbsd 21:28 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 21:28 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 21:29 -!- znedw4542621 [~znedw@2400:a846:4040:0:76eb:b370:c665:7c0c] has joined #openbsd 21:29 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 21:30 -!- zorone [~zorone@user/zorone] has joined #openbsd 21:31 -!- cobra [~cobra@user/Cobra] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:31 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EF807.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31 < supaman> huh, just upgraded my laptop to 7.8. After sysupgrade then xfwm4 crashed ... hmmm, ,what could be wrong? DOH! left to do the pkg_add -u and upgrade all ports, that fixed the problem. 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A bit heavy handed, but I see no need to accept traffic from China, Russia, etc. Depending on your location and whether or not Brazil is a country where your visitors might come from it could be an idea for you as well. 22:51 -!- jonf_ [~jjf@163.5.171.92] has joined #openbsd 22:52 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 22:52 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:10f9:6b00::1c19] has joined #openbsd 22:55 < sibiria> dg: synproxy is a simpler bet, and less prone to goof things up 22:56 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Client Quit] 22:56 < Bradipo> dg: perhaps your rules are just wrong? 22:56 < Bradipo> Also, you said "tcp connection" but didn't state which port/daemon. 22:57 -!- rc [~rc@user/rc] has joined #openbsd 22:57 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:57 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 22:58 -!- zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.251] has joined #openbsd 22:59 < sibiria> also, it really is totally fine to just move the sshd to another port to get rid of the majority of noise on the line 23:00 -!- dooder [~dooder@user/dooder] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 23:00 -!- szilard- [~szilard@1F2EFB4D.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 23:00 -!- dooder [~dooder@75-164-235-183.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #openbsd 23:00 -!- dooder [~dooder@75-164-235-183.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:00 -!- dooder [~dooder@user/dooder] has joined #openbsd 23:01 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has quit [Client Quit] 23:03 -!- UserNotFound [~User@38.244.136.108] has joined #openbsd 23:03 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EFA5C.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:03 -!- szilard- is now known as szilard 23:05 < beauby> I am getting a "Bus error (core dumped)" when attempting to `rdsetroot -x` the `bsd.rd` in the 7.8 arm64 install78.img, although it works fine on miniroot78.img. Any idea what might be going on? 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