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00:26 < puffybuf> I want to try combining multiple wireguard wg interfaces with aggr. Maybe I can speed up my VPN speeds.
00:27 < pardis> a wg(4) device is not an ethernet interface so that likely won't even work
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00:30 < mischief> puffybuf: what throughput do you get?
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01:12 < dg> puffybuf: yeah aggr isn't going to work, ecmp could work potentially
01:14 < dg> (a quick search finds me somoene making it work on Linux: https://blog.muthuraj.in/2020/06/high-throughput-site-to-site-vpn-using.html)
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02:29 < puffybuf> hmmm latest iwx driver changes seems to break my laptop internet
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03:02 < dwayneiam> Anyone here member of sdf?
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03:08 < thrig> maybe
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03:18 < dwayneiam> thrig: lol
03:19 < dwayneiam> I just logged in. I had account since 2010
03:20 < dg> puffybuf: yes, I'm getting failure loading firmware on AX201 too
03:21 < dwayneiam> i will be 100% openbsd soon
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03:22 < fro> ok
03:23 < dwayneiam> 2 laptops 1 raspbery pi 4 b 
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03:24 < dwayneiam> one more to go. Beelink t4. 
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03:26 < dwayneiam> fro: you should respond "ok thats awesome, glad to have you with us"
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03:30 < dwayneiam> fro: are you anti bsd?
03:30 < litl> if you're running -CURRENT 7.9 - chromium browsers are broke as of the last 2 snapshots. ungoogled-chromium and iridium: GPU process isn't usable. Goodbye. Trace/BPT trap. GPU process exited unexpectedly: exit_code=32512. a lot of Failed to open /dev/null messages and Network service crashed or was terminated, restarting service. dooble is my backup and is working. just a heads up.
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03:32 < litl> dwayneiam: it's nice to see you're still around and that's super cool to hear.
03:33 < dg> litl: make sure you've done pkg_add -u
03:33 < litl> i have a laptop and a chromebook and have openbsd running on both of them.
03:33 < litl> dg: i always do when i sysupgrade -s. i still have a habbit of sysmerge and then i do a pkg_add -D snap -uvi
03:34 < litl> should i just do a pkg_add -u without the rest?
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03:34 < thrig> pkg_add -uUＵ
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03:35 < dg> that pkg_add should be enough
03:35 < dwayneiam> thrig: is a good dude
03:36 < dwayneiam> thrig: is fro ok?
03:36 < dg> there was also some discussion on the lists that the files in /etc/ungoogled-chromium might not be in sync with /usr/local/share/examples/ungoogled-chromium
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03:39 < dg> oh actually maybe a new enough version of ungoogled-chromium hasn't been pushed yet
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03:40 < dg> or my mirror is not up-to-date
03:40 < dg> you can potentially add /dev/null to some of the unveil files to fix this, but then you also don't get future package changes to those files, so it might be better to wait
03:40 < dwayneiam> dg: is fro a retarded bot?
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03:42 < dwayneiam> i dont care? fro 
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03:43 < dwayneiam> I will
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03:44 < dwayneiam> fro: ok
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03:55 < lts> phy1729: ^
03:56 < phy1729> dwayneiam: don't harass people
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04:53 < litl> dg: thanks for your input dg :-) i might reinstall and not run CURRENT until i'm good enough to understand more to troubleshoot.
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04:53 < litl> i rarely have issues with CURRENT, when i do it's usually when the devs are prepping for next release
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04:54 < litl> 7.9 just hit <= 1 week
04:55 < litl> ungoogled-chromium has had issues building, i think it's pulled from freebsd ports. i check freshports when it's not available on openbsd and it won't be building on freebsd either
04:56 < litl> dooble always seems to work and is very lightweight. paired with nextdns for content blocking it's not too bad but it would be my main go to if it had content blocking support built-in
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05:00 < dg> 7.9-beta, not 7.9 yet
05:00 < litl> ye that's what i ment. current just got onto 7.9
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09:07 < avemestr> I'm running 7.8 release. I've had a bit of brokenness with ungoogled-chromium as well with latest syspatches and such. Always fixed with pkg_add -u. Yesterday I noticed a new pkg_readme saying /etc/ungoogled-chromium/unveil.main was changed.
09:08 < avemestr> (Just my observations related to the previous discussions about b0rken ungoogled and updates)
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09:45 < vortexx> avemestr: yeah there's an ongoing discussion over at ports@ about that
09:45 < vortexx> lots and lots of plumbing going on at the moment
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10:31 < beauby> Doing `vnconfig vnd0 install78.img && mount /dev/vnd0a ./mnt`, I can see a non-empty `mnt/bsd.rd` (18465885 bytes) but `hexdump -C mnt/bsd.rd` yields nothing, neither does `dd if=mnt/bsd.rd`. Any idea what might be happening? I verified the checksum of the `install78.img`
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10:42 < vortexx> beauby: it'd help if you explained what you're trying to achieve
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10:44 < sibiria> beauby: what does "yield nothing" mean?
10:45 < sibiria> try use an absolute path, just to be sure you're pointing at the correct thing
10:45 < sibiria> i.e. /mnt and /mnt/bsd.rd
10:45 < sibiria> in case it's some cwd hiccup
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10:50 < beauby> vortexx: I am patching the ramdisk for unattended install. I succeeded doing it with the `miniroot78.img` image, but when I attempt to do the same on the `install78.img`, it fails. sibiria: by "yields nothing" I mean it doesn't output a single line for hexdump, and it says "0 bytes transferred" with dd (`file mnt/bsd.rd` does not output anything either)
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10:51 < beauby> I gave it a shot with absolute paths but same results
10:51 < beauby> (By "patching the ramdisk for unattended install, I mean adding a `/auto_install.conf` to the ramdisk)
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10:53 < sibiria> that just sounds like you accidentally overwrote the file
10:53 < sibiria> zapped it, zero bytes long
10:54 < sibiria> bsd and bsd.rd in the miniroot and full installer are a few mb each
10:55 < beauby> But `ls -lh` still says 17.6M (this is the arm64 image), and I am consistently getting this behavior when downloading it fresh
10:56 < beauby> I also tried downloading a fresh `install78.img` and mounting the `a` partition readonly just in case, but I observe the same thing
11:00 < sibiria> arm64 has a different dir structure
11:01 < sibiria> doesn't it boot from the install kernel inside the tree?
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11:08 < beauby> sibiria: Do you mean vs the DOS/MBR partition? If so, yes, that's my understanding
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11:10 < beauby> What I find surprising is that I can get the thing to work end-to-end with the miniroot image (for which I can successfully `rdsetroot -x` the `bsd.rd`. Are there fundamental differences between the images (install78 and miniroot78) beyond extra files for install78?
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11:12 < sibiria> not that i know. the former is a full installation medium, the latter a ramdisk kernel relying on network
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11:19 < vortexx> mh I can reproduce for the hexdump -C with the arm64 install78.img. amd64 install78.img works, it's quite odd
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11:21 < vortexx> but I am able to copy a file in there and umount. Remounting works and the file is still there
11:21 < vortexx> beauby: just copy over your autoinstall.sh and see if it works?
11:21 < beauby> vortexx: thanks for giving it a shot, that rules out a bunch of possibilities. Any chance the install image for arm64 is botched?
11:21 < sibiria> it's not
11:21 < vortexx> doubt it, we're 5 months since release and plenty of people use the arm64 port
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11:22 < vortexx> we haven't had a single person raise an issue about the install78.img
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11:22 < sibiria> which is why i asked, doesn't it boot from the ramdisk kernel inside the tree
11:22 < sibiria> meaning /7.8/bsd.rd or whatever the path is
11:22 < beauby> sibiria: One thing that's a bit odd is the gid of bsd/bsd.rd is 2000 in the install78 image, and not in the miniroot
11:23 < beauby> vortexx: Are you able to `rdsetroot -x` the `bsd.rd`?
11:23 < vortexx> beauby: let me try
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11:24 < beauby> sibiria: I am getting the same behavior with `/mnt/7.8/arm64/bsd.rd`
11:24 < vortexx> Bus error (core dumped)
11:25 < vortexx> same as you
11:25 < beauby> vortexx: Yeah same here
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11:25 < sibiria> the file inside the tree exists and has actual data, in my case. but it is odd that the two files in the root have size but no actual data
11:26 < sibiria> you could have a look at the 7.7 image to see what's going on there
11:26 < beauby> let me try install77
11:26 < dg> what's the link count and maybe try ls -il -- some of those are hard links
11:26 < sibiria> it might be as simple as some file system trickery and hard links
11:26 < vortexx> rdsetroot: /mnt/bsd.rd: not an elf <-- that's doing the same rdsetroot -x on the amd64 install78.img
11:27 < sibiria> fdisk/disklabel did throw a notification about the image
11:28 < vortexx> ls -li /mnt/bsd.rd
11:28 < vortexx> 4 -r-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  4804509 Oct 12 21:18 /mnt/bsd.rd
11:28 < vortexx> that's amd64
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11:29 < vortexx> 520 -rw-r--r--  3 root  2000  18465885 Oct 13 02:49 /mnt/bsd.rd
11:29 < vortexx> arm64
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11:33 < vortexx> going to test sparc64
11:33 < dg> on a snapshot install79.img doing rdsetroot -x bsd.rd works fine, but also not for me on arm64 install78.img (haven't tried booting it though, it still has a 7.8 directory inside it)
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11:36 < beauby> sibiria: I am able to `hexdump -C` the 77 image
11:36 < beauby> (well, not the image itself, but the bsd.rd in the image)
11:36 < beauby> and rdsetroot -x works as well
11:36 < sibiria> does sounds like a hiccup with the 7.8 image. that said, it works fine for me. i have a running installation made from it
11:37 < sibiria> 7.8/arm64
11:37 < vortexx> mount_ffs: /dev/vnd0a on /mnt: Device not configured <-- sparc64 is even better :)
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11:40 < dg> it could be possible for the filesystem to be somehow corrupt so the kernel can't read the kernel off it, but the bootloader can
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11:43 < vortexx> rdsetroot: /mnt/bsd.rd: not an elf <-- i386 install78.img
11:44 < vortexx> │4 -r-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  4056803 Oct 13 00:30 /mnt/bsd.rd
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11:46 < dg> yeah, it's getting 0 bytes when it calls read(), ktrace looks like this:
11:47 < dg>  19188 hexdump  CALL  read(0,0x727f3858000,0x4000)
11:47 < dg>  19188 hexdump  RET   read 0
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11:47 < dg> read shouldn't be returning 0
11:47 < dg> beauby: I think this is worth a bug report, even if it's a one off it would be good that someone can check other releases aren't affected
11:48 < sibiria> *** NERVOUS NSA NOISES ***
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11:49 < beauby> dg: Sounds good, I'm on it
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11:51 < vortexx> going to test 7.9-beta so compare
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11:53 < vortexx> rdsetroot -x on the arm64 install79.img works
11:53 < dg> vortexx: i think the i386 is a red herring, it's just gzip'd, if you decompress it then rdsetroot works
11:53 < dg> the better test is whether hexdump -C fails
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11:54 < vortexx> dg: ok
11:55 < vortexx> dg: hexdump -C works
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12:02 < dg> possibily more interesting is does sha256 -c SHA256 report any errors (except missing files)
12:02 < dg> INSTALL.arm64 is also empty but shows a size, at least for me
12:05 < vortexx> dg: (SHA256) BOOTAA64.EFI: MISSING
12:05 < vortexx> (SHA256) BUILDINFO: OK
12:05 < sibiria> in the install.img or the miniroot?
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12:06 < vortexx> tail -n 1 INSTALL.arm64 https://www.OpenBSD.org/report.html
12:06 < vortexx> this is the install79.img for arm64
12:06 < vortexx> I can test the install78.img too
12:07 < sibiria> ok. all of this is a bit befuddling still, as i have two setups installed from the 7.8/arm64 miniroot. "task failed successfully"
12:07 < beauby> sibiria: The miniroot doesn't exhibit the issue for me
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12:07 < sibiria> ok that would explain my end of it i suppose
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12:09 < vortexx> tail -n 1 INSTALL.arm64 returns nothing on the arm64 install78.img
12:09 < vortexx> (SHA256) bsd.rd: FAILED
12:09 < vortexx> some stuff returns OK some doesn't
12:10 < vortexx> it could well be the image is mangled
12:11 < vortexx> let me fire up virt-manager and do an arm64 7.8 install
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12:15 < vortexx> then again maybe not because that requires doing some research on how to get a working config that'll install
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12:17 < beauby> Any suggested category for the `sendbug` report?
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12:18 < sibiria> category: muerte y destruccion
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12:28 < ForeverNoob[m]> Hello, this is my 3rd attempt at configuring my Mullvad WG VPN setup on my OpenBSD client using rdomains. I'm reading this article: https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-10-09-openbsd-wireguard-exit.html - But I don't understand whether 3.3 and 3.4 partain to the client or the server. So which one is it?
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12:36 < IcePic> ForeverNoob[m]: 3.3 reads like the server at home, so you can wg into it and exit via your home internet. Same goes for 3.4
12:37 < ForeverNoob[m]> Ah ok, thanks.
12:37 < dg> if you just want a single client device of a vpn service, you don't need to do those
12:38 < ForeverNoob[m]> Yeah I just have 1 client connecting to a WG endpoint.
12:38 < ForeverNoob[m]> (Or rather, that I would _want_ to connect hehe)
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13:02 < aaronm04> I wrote something on how to run Electrum, in case anyone here is struggling with that: https://iforgotmy.name/articles/2026-03-12-electrum-on-openbsd.html
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13:02 < ZHuangZi> ForeverNoob[m]: when I setup several WG on dromains, tcpdump was my friend. 
13:03 < ZHuangZi> *rdomains ;) 
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13:14 < phy1729> I quite like making an rdomain with the only if being a wg if and then putting your user session in that rdomain via login.conf, but I'm a bit biased.
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13:15 < ZHuangZi> phy1729: I didn't know we could drop users into rdodmain.  That is cool. 
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13:28 < ForeverNoob[m]> Yeah tcpdump sounds pretty handy. Always used Wireshark more though, so I should probably brush up on my tcpdump foo.
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13:33 < ZHuangZi> I like wireshark if I have a GUI.  when working from termina on the router as WG server you can still use tcpdump to capture a file, then transfer to computer with wireshark.  I find it quicker to do a quick tcpdump and see if the packets are getting to the right rdomains etc.   
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13:49 < aaronm04> Wireshark is great for in-depth analysis of your packets
13:50 < aaronm04> It can do conversation tracking: following TCP (or other protocol) sessions
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16:33 < beauby> Actually dg there is a thread on the bugs@ mailing list where people have issues installing from the install78.img arm64 (but not miniroot78.img) image (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=176842278807488&w=2)
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16:36 < lts> Joke's on them, I hadn't yet even rebooted all boxes from the last need-reboot-syspatch
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17:39 < FenderQ> why did OpenBSD push this pledge tmppath change into -stable?
17:40 < FenderQ> almost 10 patches in under a month
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18:04 < morpho> FenderQ: security update? is that unusual
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18:07 < deimosBSD> https://www.openbsd.org/errata78.html compared to https://www.openbsd.org/errata77.html or any prior release
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18:11 < morpho> depends on how you look at it
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18:12 < morpho> i think there is a bit of a culture in foss to lie that things are better than they are. But the alternative is these bugs go undocumented and fixes not submitted
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18:15 < deimosBSD> Releases: 59  │  Average: 15.2  │  Max: 45  │  Total: 898, if did my xan/math right
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18:20 < morpho> which release had 45 fixes
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18:29 < deimosBSD> 6.0
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18:31 < deimosBSD> i really need to fix my paste site to serve up utf-8 by default, otherwise one gets messes like this, https://agglutino.zw.is/txt/85drmcbt/
18:33 < deimosBSD> here, actual ascii-only, https://agglutino.zw.is/txt/vs16if7p/
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18:43 < ssm_> doe relayd relays support selectors for different ports on the same address, or will I need to create another loopback device and listen on that?
18:44 < ssm_> I've been eyeslopping the manpage for n time and I don't think it's a thing
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18:50 < ssm_> pseudo-config for what I'm trying to do https://x0.at/lRma.txt
18:50 < ssm_> s/listen on <table>/listen on $if/
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19:05 < mischief> yes you can run different ports on the same ip/table
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19:15 < Bradipo> deimosBSD: agglutino.zw.is doesn't resolve.
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19:35 < deimosBSD> it's ipv6 only
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19:37 < thrig> 2001:ahexoddessey
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19:54 < mischief> thrig: time to change that password!
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20:02 < Bradipo> mischief: I think he's poking fun at IPv6.
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20:03 < Bradipo> Of course many of the characters in 2001:ahexoddessey are not hexadecimal.
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20:04 < thrig> well you try writing an oral epic poem using only hex characters
20:05 < ssm_> mischief: trouble is protocols don't support a port option on `forward to` directives, unlike relays
20:05 < ssm_> so I can just forward to a table which holds addresses, not ports, so I can't select a port in the protocol or relay\
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20:07 < morpho> i just use pf to forward different ports to different internal Ips
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20:13 < ssm_> to avoid an xy, what I'm trying to do is to relay with a layer 7 application proxy connections to "/private/" on port 443 to a daemon running on port localhost 8080. otherwise continue to localhost port 80
20:14 < ssm_> s/connections to/requests for/
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20:30 < deimosBSD> 2001:A:C0DE:FAD:FED:DECA::F
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22:03 < ssm_> hmm, maybe I could match in to 127.69.69.69 port 8080 rdr-to 127.0.0.1
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22:17 < morpho> ssm_ i have my lo blocked but whitelist a few ports like that
22:18 < morpho> probably quite naively, but it works
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22:21 < sibiria> you shouldn't block traffic on the loopback interface
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22:26 < thrig> normally, though one might have user-specific rules so that a user can only do loopback traffic
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22:32  * ssm_ just wants to select ports in relayd but relayd only speaks in addr :< (or I'm dumb)
22:35 < Bradipo> What are you using?  Redirections?  Relays?  TLS Relays?
22:35 < Bradipo> For Redirections: forward to <table> [port number] options ...
22:36 < Bradipo> Seems to allow forwarding to a specific port.
22:37 < ssm_> Bradipo <to avoid an xy, what I'm trying to do is to relay with a layer 7 application proxy requests for "/private/" on port 443 to a daemon running on port localhost 8080. otherwise continue to localhost port 80> https://x0.at/lRma.txt
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22:38 < ssm_> problem I run into is you can't actually set port in protocol like I did in that txt
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22:43 < ssm_> if path == /private/ relay localhost:8080 else relay localhost:80
22:44 < morpho> i you can have per user rules no?
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22:51 < Bradipo> I don't know what "an xy" is.
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22:51 < ssm_> trying to do something way harder/wrong when there's a much simpler solution
22:52 < uwharrie> https://xyproblem.info
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23:51 < vortexx> 022: SECURITY FIX: March 15, 2026   All architectures <-- yet another pledge erratum, and this one came from the future
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