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00:27 < ff104> cmus is great
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00:35 < tux0r> sure is
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02:36 < sandmanXpuff> cmus is hte best music player
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07:47 < zbcm> aucat is the best music player
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08:34 < IcePic> zbcm: .au was the best format, everything you ever needed for your sun4m boxes
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08:43 < vortexx> IFF Audio was nice too, on Amigas
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10:06 < zbcm> Something like this https://commie.io/#3QeE5RI9
10:09 < zbcm> shame the headphone jack on my laptop broke. I only have one ear
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10:17 < avemestr> Time for some usb-connected headphones?
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10:18 < zbcm> I'd rather replace the port
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12:07 < largedevonne> What algorithms are available for disk sector encryption?
12:08 < sibiria> for the regular full-disk encryption, only aes-xts. for virtually mounted disk images, only blowfish (not recommended these days)
12:08 < largedevonne> No SPRP?
12:08 < sibiria> "only aes-xts"
12:09 < largedevonne> Will they accept a patch to include other, more secure, algorithms?
12:10 < sibiria> right off the bat i'd say "unlikely" but who knows
12:12 < largedevonne> Does OpenBSD have something analogous to dm-crypt on Linux?
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12:12 < largedevonne> Or just the crypto framework?
12:13 < largedevonne> It's one thing just adding another algorithm, and another refactoring an entire code base...
12:13 < sibiria> virtual disk nodes can employ encryption (blowfish, as mentioned) and the softraid driver has a crypto discipline, the aes-xts gizmo used for full-disk encryption
12:13 < sibiria> they aren't entirely comparable but that's what's part of the base system
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12:15 < sibiria> the full-disk encryption (via softraid) is horrendously slow as it is. i think that's a very pressing concern that some of the core developers have raised in the past
12:16 < sibiria> and that thing is still running off of aes-ni, i think
12:16 < morpho> if you have a vps with full disk encryption
12:16 < morpho> can the vps owner see your shit?
12:17 < largedevonne> Assuming they can see your memory...
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12:17 < sibiria> technically they could fish the key out of memory and go about it that way, or just mess with your bootloader and install a keylogger to get the password
12:17 < morpho> like whats the use-case beyond forgetting your password and getting locked out of all your data
12:17 < largedevonne> My use case is encrypted removable storage
12:18 < sibiria> you'd also have to enter the password via virtual console each time, or provide a virtual key disk, so... they have that going for them if they really want to break into your VPS
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12:18 < sibiria> in the past i ran a system that booted unencrypted but used softraid to open up an encrypted volume with all the services/configs/data after boot. messy, but it's another option
12:19 < largedevonne> yeah, and you can provide the key via ssh
12:19 < sibiria> that was done over ssh which provides a slightly trickier setup for a host to break into - though absolutely not impossible
12:19 < largedevonne> but that's assuming the host can't look into the guest's memory
12:19 < largedevonne> which is rather unlikely
12:20 < sibiria> even with AMD-SEV a determined attacker on the host can fiddle around
12:20 < sibiria> like, just disabling SEV for your guest..
12:20 < largedevonne> I actually own the hardware, so not much concern there...
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12:24 < IcePic> when running on SomeoneElsesComputer, you need to consider if they can migrate your instance from host A to host B so that your VPS continues to run, but is not deleted on src Host A, only frozen for inspection. A bit like a broken teleporter that sends you to remote machine but doesn't destroy the source of you, so now there exist a copy
12:25 < sibiria> proxmox can snapshot a running VM without much noticable interruption
12:25 < sibiria> pretty sure vmware can, too
12:26 < largedevonne> Is the kernel using AES-NI?
12:26 < sibiria> it is
12:27 < largedevonne> So, can I use vector extensions (AVX2 mostly) for my code?
12:27 < sibiria> i believe avx256 is supported now since a few years back. not sure about avx512
12:28 < largedevonne> The one thing I need from AVX512 is vector rotate left
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12:29 < sibiria> 7.6 enabled avx-512
12:30 < largedevonne> Like, would folks be interested in disk encryption with ChaCha20 and Poly1305?
12:32 < sibiria> i know i would
12:32 < largedevonne> It's an actual super-pseudorandom permutation. So one bit difference in the 4KiB sector changes everything
12:33 < morpho> yeye
12:34 < morpho> what about quantum encryption? i was going to go to a talk on post-quantum-decryption at dc
12:34 < morpho> what did i miss
12:36 < largedevonne> Damn, it seems like I would have to change a lot of softraid_crypto
12:37 < largedevonne> And rewrite something like bioctl
12:38 < sibiria> morpho: for one, we're missing a large-enough quantum computer
12:38 < sibiria> needs to be larger than your cryptographic key, and even then it's not certain it will cause any useful damage
12:39 < sibiria> even if you turn a 256-bit cipher inside out and reduce its key to effectively 128 bits, you're still faced with the problem of needing an infinite amount of energy to attack it
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12:40 < largedevonne> right, but if you talk quantum computers you must talk multi-user security. Because no one is building a quantum computer for targeted attack
12:41 < largedevonne> And 128-bit security for multiple users is not that comfortable
12:42 < sibiria> we have no idea what the guys in the Fort Meade kaaba is up to
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12:49 < morpho> lol, fort maede does look like kaaba
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12:51 < morpho> there seems to be a few pcb`s that provide a quantum encryption?
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12:51 < morpho> https://semiconductor.samsung.com/news-events/tech-blog/s3sse2a-hardware-pqc-locks-in-security-for-the-quantum-era/
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14:15 < flaxarn> UserNotFound, Can you not fix your stupid network and power save wifi crap? 500 times per day you ping-pong in and out of channel
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14:17 < morpho> lmfao
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14:18 < zbcm> just ignore it on your client or bouncer
14:18 < morpho> how? lol
14:19 < flaxarn> I prefer not specific ignore pattern for one user and I keep eye on join / quit for some peoples I talk to
14:19 < morpho> UserNotFound: fix your wifi
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14:21 < flaxarn> Its like looking at a confused old person stuck in a revolving door
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14:32 < quinq> https://man.openbsd.org/xenodm.1 oops
14:33 < quinq> (500 Internal Server Error)
14:33 < oldlaptop> man.bsd.lv is up, but still stuck at 7.0
14:34 < ff104> he's got connection issues but your troubles are wrose. every irc client has a nicklist, and libera has friends list / notifications. https://termbin.com/178a
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14:35  * oldlaptop wonders how well man.cgi is doing with the scraperbot test - maaaaaaybe a sign the answer is "not perfectly"
14:35 < quinq> Yeah ^^
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16:58 < flaxarn> ff104, Irssi don't have nick list unless install a third party module. Settings you show look like weechat, I dont use it. But Irc itself has general notify function. At some point join / part flood is anyway too much
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17:03 < thrig>   activity_hide_level = "QUITS JOINS PARTS MODES TOPIC NICKS"
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17:13 < avemestr> Or weechat: /filter add joinquit * irc_join,irc_part,irc_quit *
17:13 < ff104> yea was just an example, i can't imagine suffering my chat filled with join/spam log just in case i saw somebody i knew join or leave... i never see any of those message
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17:14 < flaxarn> I cant filter all it out, then I dont get my flaneur fix!!!
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21:34 < izder456> net/abaddon got imported today
21:34 < izder456> now discord users of openbsd can rejoice
21:34 < izder456> :)
21:35 < izder456> https://codeberg.org/OpenBSD/ports/commit/b641edbaaccdb15c2df28ac94b0936a91037d17b
21:35 < izder456> a native discord client has been imported to openbsd's ports tree
21:35 < izder456> whoops, didn't need to paste the second part
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21:37 < sibiria> sweet
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21:45 < ssm_> ports have been tainted. also should be in www not net I think
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22:09 < morpho> https://webauthn.io/
22:09 < morpho> has anybody used this? it queries me for a hardware key but i dont own such a thing
22:09 < morpho> is there any mechanism for obsd to interact with this?
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22:11 < quinq> It has web in its name
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22:15 < dg> morpho: be more specific? webauthn is an api that usually sits on top of FIDO/U2F keys, there's fido(4) and something like chrome will support the pure web part
22:16 < dg> but if you don't have a yubikey/u2f compatible hardware key then I don't know if the software / tpm backed versions will work
22:16 < dg> there isn't really tpm support and I think some of that in chrome also depends on google's web services which might not work in chromium
22:17 < morpho> so you dont need a hardware key? but there is software emulation in chrome, which does not work on openbsd
22:19 < dg> sort of, it's partly software but chrome uses the TPM chip (assuming your device has one, but most do thesedays) to actually keep the credential secure
22:20 < morpho> would it be handy to have an obsd tool to handle this
22:21 < morpho> like even if it is just software, and exposes itself to the fifo interface
22:23 < morpho> it doesnt seem too hard, there is enough cryptographic tools in base
22:23 < dg> there's doing it, and doing it securely
22:24 < morpho> its no different from ssh keys no?
22:25 < dg> it's like taking the *-sk key variants, which can talk to actual hardware and adding some virtual interface to weaken them
22:27 < dg> chromeos does have https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform2/+/main/vtpm or there's other vTPM implementations
22:28 < dg> this is all definitely possible, but I wonder for what gain, buy a device for $20 (yubikey ones are more expensive, but there's cheaper webauthn only compatible ones)
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22:31 < sibiria> on openbsd and firefox, inserting my Titan key to the computer causes openbsd to completely freeze
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22:32 < sibiria> the one major issue with hardware keys is that you need to register two of them on every venue to prevent yourself from being locked out if you lose your key or if it breaks
22:33 < sibiria> and then you have your credentials spread out in two places
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22:34 < morpho> its better than passwords
22:34 < morpho> i also worry about losing my hardware key
22:34 < dg> this is what passkeys solves, but that depends on cloud services (maybe one of the self hosted password managers can help?) but I don't even know if that works on (non-chromeos/android) linux
22:35 < sibiria> i personally prefer passwords in a proper password manager (keepassxc) and 2FA on the side
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22:37 < morpho> i write them in a book
22:37 < morpho> lol
22:37 < morpho> they are encrypted with my handwriting
22:38 < dg> for me that isn't a reversible encryption
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22:39 < morpho> passwords in book, keys on computer
22:39 < fro> i couldn't write a password down because my handwriting is disgusting and i wouldn't know what i wrote looking at it later
22:40 < morpho> i guess anything would work
22:40 < morpho> like smell is good for memory
22:40 < morpho> just think of your passkey and smell a candle and you will associate the two
22:42 < morpho> dg: my laptop has a tpm chip in dmesg?
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22:45 < morpho> is that actually useful? is there any interest in it for openbsd storing ssh keys or whatever
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22:48 < sibiria> less useful on openbsd since it doesn't have any support for secure boot yet
22:49 < sibiria> (which is its main use case)
22:50 < morpho> huh, i may have mistaken what it does
22:51 < sibiria> can still use the TPM to store other arbitrary data
22:54 < dg> man tpm | grep -A2 C..A..V..E..A..T
22:55 < morpho> ah, would there be any security benefit to storing ssh or gpg keys on it?
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23:06 < thrig> man tpm | col -bx | grep -A2 CAVE
23:06 < morpho> yes i see there is no driver to do that yet
23:06 < sibiria> | tee 'abandon all hope ye who enter here'
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23:07 < morpho> but if there was no caveat to the driver
23:08 < sibiria> something someone (zelest) reminded me of the other days is that even if openbsd doesn't support secure boot, nor measured boot, you can still use secure boot to validate the openbsd EFI bootloader and run an FDE setup to keep the contents protected. it's not a perfect solution, but it complicates an attack
23:09 < sibiria> reasonably secure against a compromising the bootloader with a keylogger
23:09 < sibiria> -a
23:10 < zelest> You need to re-sign it after each sysupgrade though..
23:10 < sibiria> re-sign or just poke the sha256 sum into the efivars, if wanting to take a shortcut
23:11 < zelest> Mhm
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23:19  * oldlaptop mutters something about how "encrypting" the drive by creating ffs filesystems on it and installing OpenBSD in them probably does a fair bit to "complicate an attack"
23:19  * tux0r surely hopes the feds' law enforcement trojans just aren't openbsd-compatible
23:19 < sibiria> from the outside you can replace the EFI bootloader to capture the passphrase/key
23:20 < oldlaptop> "hit him with the $5 wrench until he tells us why my kali can't mount it"
23:20 < sibiria> which is where signing the EFI application with secure boot comes in
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23:21 < morpho> do you not go through self induced hypnotherapy to forget how to mount ffs drives on any other os
23:22 < morpho> you can hit me all you want, it will only make me forget more
23:23 < izder456> ssm_: other chat clients use net as their category. this isn't meant for the world wide web like a httpd or web browser is so i think its fine in net
23:23 < oldlaptop> morpho: Slightly more seriously: I doubt any means exists to mount ffs on Windows or OSX. (sorry. "macOS".) Most linuxes build their kernels without write support, and all 'mount /dev/sda27 /mnt' or whatever will do is print a helpful message in dmesg that you have to specify the "ufstype".
23:24 < oldlaptop> There's a knowledge gate there high enough to keep your little sister out.
23:26 < oldlaptop> (for that matter, I don't recall offhand whether it'll even be smart enough to pick the ufs driver without being told)
23:29 < morpho> hrmmm, so the tpm driver exists in the fido2 driver src
23:32 < morpho> how would i even start to make a driver to support gpg or w/e ( i know c )
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23:43 < dg> morpho: it's a large project, there's interfacing to the TPM hardware in a driver and probably a bunch of infrastructure to support that
23:43 < dg> e.g. gpg-agent can do tpm on linux, looking at how that works would be useful, but possibily a different architecture would make sense
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23:44 < dg> but it would probably make sense to not start with gpg, consider what the most minimal useful thing to support is
23:44 < morpho> signify?
23:45 < morpho> even just writing an ssh key
23:49 < morpho> just read whatever is on there off it
23:50 < dg> possibily, but tpms have limited space, so e.g. something like https://github.com/Foxboron/ssh-tpm-agent actually stores just one key in the tpm, then uses that to encrypt keys on disk (I think not actually used it)
23:51 < dg> https://tpm2-software.github.io would likely be a place to start reading, if the architecture diagram there doesn't put you off ;)
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23:57  * oldlaptop mutters something to the effect of "if that doesn't put you off, seek help!"
23:58 < thrig> https://www.savagechickens.com/2007/05/job-hazard.html
23:59 < morpho> sound over hdmi
23:59 < morpho> tpm key storage
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