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09:55 < minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
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09:56 < minall> I compiled a custom kernel without changes, just to set a specific flag: make -j2 COPTS+=" -DMSK_DEBUG", in order to activate the MSK_DEBUG flag in the msk(4) code that allows more verbose output. So that I can get more details on what this driver is doing in say, /var/log/messages or in any other place
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09:57 < minall> I 'make install' and now I am in the new kernel, however, I still cannot debug this driver, not sure if it worked. I also tried modifying the code of msk and defining it as 1 instead of 0, to pass the if, but that would give me errors like flag '#' results in underined behavior with 'd' conversion specifier... and format specifies type 'unsigned long ' but the argument has type 'struct mbuf *'
09:57 < minall> And of course I didn't wanted to change the code, so I did it with the compiler
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09:59 < minall> What am I missing?, how can I debug this driver better?. Where would I see the logs?... uname -a tells me that I am in the custom kernel so it did compile, now, I'm not sure if setting the flag is enough. And when I try to modify the code a little, those errors appear
10:00 < minall> I could debug even further and change C even, now I want to be sure that I am not missing anything as it is my first time trying to debug a driver like this. Perhaps there's something I missed
10:00 < minall> (As I found out that the driver sets its media to 1000TX and that makes the device work at first, but then crashes. Setting it manually at start time to 100TX like Linux does will fix all issues)
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10:03 < minall> Perhaps I should set an option to -DMSK_DEBUG? https://man.openbsd.org/options <- I'm reading
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11:59 < minall> Okay, I managed to recompile the kernel with MSK_DEBUG defined and mskdebug in the code set to 1
11:59 < minall> I wonder where should I see these messages... /var/log/messages?, dmesg? (I can't find where)
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12:09 < minall> According to this https://jcs.org/2022/02/16/ioctl, which is mostly the same I am doing of enabling debugging of a specific module, in this case on video. In my case on msk, it should be enough
12:09 < minall> Now, I don't see any information on the msk printing out messages or what it is doing
12:13 < mischief> perhaps there are no interesting debug messages
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12:25 < minall> mischief: I added a #define DEBUG in the pci.c in order to see if it reaches it... And added some more prints
12:25 < minall> I want to see any change at least... A print of the driver so that I can know I am in the right place
12:26 < minall> And well, where does this output go, /var/log/messages?, dmesg?... The above blog mentions this exact process but it doesn't mention where it is seeing this messages
12:27 < mischief> dmesg
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12:32 < cgnarne> minall: crank mskdebug up to 11
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12:36 < minall> On it cgnarne 
12:36 < minall> mischief: rebuilding kernel
12:38 < minall> Also, is there somewhere I missed (some manual I should read) that specified that the more you crank up the debug variable of a driver, the more messages they get?.. Or a specific part of the code
12:38 < minall> (Apologies if too simple of a question)
12:39 < mischief> read the code
12:40 < minall> Okay
12:40 < minall> On it hehe
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13:29 < minall> What a difference. I get a lot of output now, this is what I wanted!...
13:29 < minall> Alright, I will continue debugging.
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18:24 < morpho> is it possible to do NPTv6 on openbsd?
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18:53 < elarks> I've been having an issue where sometimes after unlocking my machine with Xfce Screensaver the screen doesn't update. I can move the mouse and I can see it change according to the windows I have running. The only solution I have found is to simply reboot the machine. I haven't found anything on the mailing list either
18:56 < morpho> do you have spare .Xauthority files?
18:56 < morpho> in your home
18:57 < elarks> There is one such file there
18:59 < morpho> ah, sometimes i get a similar issues
18:59 < morpho> typically when its bad on my end i end up with various .Xauthority-* files
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19:09 < morpho> delete
19:15 < phy1729> I'd login on tty1 and see if the screensaver actually exited
19:17 < thrig> or try a different screensaver
19:17 < elarks> I'll keep that in mind next time it happens
19:19 < thrig> possibly also fiddling with `xset dpms` things
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19:32 < sonya> elarks: also Ctl+Alt+Backspace should restart X server without pc reboot.. or Ctl+Alt+F1, login (as root) and restart X manually..
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19:45 < elarks> Right. I never really bothered to look into this until now because it for whatever reason became more frequent
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20:26 < cgnarne> morpho: no nptv6, but maybe you can roll your own with divert sockets?
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20:32 < morpho> cgnarne: yeah i think that might work
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20:33 < morpho> need to really read pf.conf though. not quite sure of the difference between rdr-to and divert-to
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20:37 < cgnarne> divert-packet is what you are looking for
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20:38 < cgnarne> here are some examples https://github.com/echothrust/pf-diverters
20:39 < morpho> ty
20:41 < cgnarne> no idea if this is going to work for npt, but you can give it a try
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21:24 < unrznbl> I am new to openbsd and ran into an issue trying to install kiwix stuff from ports. It saydo
21:25 < unrznbl> says: Libraries in packing-lists in the ports tree and libraries from installed packages don't match, and shows a diff looking thing that includes --W curl.26.33 and +-W curl.26.34
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21:26 < unrznbl> I thought it would be better to install dependencies with pkg_add than build it all from source but I suspect that is NOT the case maybe?
21:28 < oldlaptop> That sounds like you're using snapshots, and have let your packages get out of date. (Or do you mean you're trying to build the port? If you just checked out/updated a ports tree, it's generally going to be a day or so ahead of snapshot packages, and that might be an issue from time to time.)
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21:29 < oldlaptop> It's not any better to "build from source" as a general rule, you get (or are supposed to get) the same exact binary package at the end of that process. (With the caveat that you'll be a day or two ahead, I guess! Minus build time.)
21:29 < unrznbl> ah, thank you... that makes some sense... yes, I was trying to build the port and just downloaded the ports tarball recently but installed a little while ago maybe :)
21:31 < oldlaptop> If the system itself is *not* snapshots/-current, you should not be trying to use the -current ports tree in the first place (the ports tree is released with the system, so 7.8 gets 7.8 ports). In such a situation there *really* should be no difference, though.
21:31 < unrznbl> yep... newbie mistakes ;)
21:31 < oldlaptop> (With maybe the occasional edge case where a patch goes in -stable ports but is not rebuilt for -stable packages.)
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21:36 < unrznbl> I followed this: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/ports.html and see that uname -r is 7.8
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21:39 < unrznbl> yeah, so I think I am using 7.8 ports on a 7.8 system, so that's good.
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21:46 < unrznbl> I will try starting over "fresh" by uninstalling most of the packages I see in pkg_info -mz and then just running "make" in /usr/ports/www/kiwix, which has two sub-packages... thanks for the reminder about syncing system and ports.
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21:48 < oldlaptop> curl is one of the two or three that might be different enough in the *-stable* ports tree to cause that
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21:49 < oldlaptop> (same version in -stable as -current, if I read New CVSweb (TM) correctly)
21:49 < oldlaptop> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/log/ports/net/curl/Makefile,v?sort=File
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23:15 < polarian> hmmmm
23:15 < polarian> does OpenBSD not have support for IPv6 nexthop?
23:16 < polarian> I have a freebsd server which is trying to use IPv6 LL as a gateway, I see the packet hitting the vlan interface on the router, and the packet looks fine, it originates from the public IP on the server, and its dest is correct
23:16 < polarian> but then its dropped
23:18 < polarian> its not pf (nothing on the pflog interface)
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23:21 < polarian> attempting to add a route in any capacity ends in a bad address, because it doesnt recognise that the route is via IPv6
23:21 < polarian> so im going to guess, you cant nexthop with OpenBSD 
23:21 < polarian> thats my guess, has anyone tried?
23:22 < polarian> in any case the packet should go to the default route, which is back to the ISP 
23:22 < polarian> but its just dropped...
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23:24 < polarian> prob best to ask the OpenBSD mailing list
23:26 < morpho> what is nexthop
23:27 < morpho> im also fiddling with ipv6 on obsd
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23:28 < morpho> there is a ipv6.forwarding in sysctl
23:31 < polarian> morpho: nexthop allows you to hop IPv4 packets over IPv6
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