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01:02 < hollywood> does openbsd have a such thing as code bounties where i can say I'll pay x amount of dollars for y feature?
01:03 < thrig> probably not
01:03 < pardis> I don't think it has such a thing officially, but individual developers may be receptive if you find one working on a part of the system you're interested in
01:05 < hollywood> true
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01:06 < MegaAutist> is bsd works faster than linux
01:07 < MegaAutist> do bsd work faster than linux (sorry im sleepy
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01:08 < pardis> only if you hit the turbo button
01:08 < MegaAutist> wdym
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01:10 < morpho> depends
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01:10 < morpho> its fast enough
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01:12 < hollywood> depends what bsd are you asking about openbsd?
01:12 < phy1729> And what hardware and what task, but probably not
01:13 < oldlaptop> MegaAutist: If you want a really answer, you probably need to say more about what *you* mean. Mostly, OpenBSD focuses on things other than optimizing for speed.
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01:13 < oldlaptop> (The last time "BSD" was a unitary thing one could ask questions about, incidentally, was the mid-1990s, arguably earlier.)
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01:16 < MegaAutist> does anybody use bsd system for daily use xD
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01:17 < oldlaptop> Plenty of people use OpenBSD as a normal desktop operating system, if that's what you mean.
01:17 < oldlaptop> (really *useful* answer, I meant to say)
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01:17 < tvtoon> Do you want to browse stuff, watch movies on that tube, while you open that word processor stuff? Then no, it is not faster
01:18 < hollywood> i think it's pretty safe to assume that someone with the nick "MegaAutist" joining #openbsd to ask that is trolling
01:19 < MegaAutist> no im asking seriously but im stupid
01:19 < tvtoon> you are not stupid, you are new on duty
01:20 < hollywood> alright so OpenBSD is great as an operating system and i'd argue the best way to get into UNIX-like systems (so linux, other BSD operating systems)
01:20 < hollywood> it's much simpler and easier to understand the ins and outs of the system than a system like linux
01:21 < hollywood> but on the other hand it's missing features you may expect
01:21 < oldlaptop> If you are one of UNIX's friends, OpenBSD is much more user-friendly than Linux.
01:21 < tvtoon> good points
01:21 < oldlaptop> (If you aren't one of UNIX's friends, maybe not.)
01:22 < tvtoon> Linux = distro mess
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01:23 < MegaAutist> wow i thought openbsd is harder than linux haha
01:23 < hollywood> Linux is developed at a much faster pace which means greater hardware support, greater software support, and better performance. On the other hand it can feel messy and hacked together while OpenBSD feels more robust and stable
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01:24 < MegaAutist> oo stability is good
01:24 < morpho> i find openbsd easier
01:24 < morpho> the window manager is really good :p
01:24 < tvtoon> see, everything gets better when questions get serious answers
01:25 < morpho> just the culture innit
01:26 < hollywood> important question though is what hardware are you running because it may or may not support OpenBSD
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01:27 < oldlaptop> "Linux" is hard to talk about as a single thing. Some of the most common "Linux distributions" go out of their way to be "easy to use" ("simple to use") for people who don't (or can't, or won't) understand how things work.
01:28 < oldlaptop> OpenBSD's internals are simpler than those systems, so it's generally easier to understand how things work in the first place.
01:28 < MegaAutist> ryzen 7 7435hs and rtx 4070 mobile
01:28 < morpho> https://www.openbsd.org/images/bluefish.jpg
01:28 < tvtoon> nvidia is trouble
01:28 < MegaAutist> oh
01:29 < morpho> nvidia is trouble on linux though
01:29 < pardis> but less so
01:29 < tvtoon> you may have a better luck on next upgrades but still, even on Linux this may get you "stuff"
01:29 < tvtoon> this combo particularly
01:29 < hollywood> nvidia still works on linux
01:30 < hollywood> MegaAutist: what system are you currently running?
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01:31 < MegaAutist> ubuntu
01:31 < MegaAutist> why nvidia is so lazy with linux and bsd
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01:32 < oldlaptop> As a car analogy, something like Ubuntu or openSUSE is a modern mass-market sedan, and OpenBSD is more like something from the 1960s. You're a lot more likely to need to know what a fuel system or an ignition system is, but it's a lot easier to clean a carbeurator or re-time a distributor than reprogram an engine control unit.
01:32 < pardis> even if OpenBSD had drivers for your Nvidia card (it doesn't and probably never will), that hardware would be wasted since there's nothing you could possibly run on OpenBSD that will make full use of it
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01:32 < morpho> blender
01:32 < pardis> okay, maybe one thing
01:33 < jmcunx> MegaAutist: nvidia is "lazy" because they do not what to open their hardware
01:33 < hollywood> 3d acceleration on openbsd in blender is questionable at best unstable at worst
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01:33 < oldlaptop> There are definitely games in ports that will stress modern graphics hardware.
01:33 < morpho> there is a vulkan driver
01:33 < morpho> but no vulkan debugger
01:33 < hollywood> i could be wrong i haven't used openbsd on modern hardware in awhile but it used to be an endless nightmare of deadlocks
01:34 < hollywood> on a 5600XT tho? hell nooo
01:34 < oldlaptop> https://openports.pl/path/games/fs2open with 27-year-old (or whatever) retail data will run on... do the kids still say "a potato"?
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01:34 < hollywood> old hardware openbsd ran perfectly
01:34 < MegaAutist> so amd opened its hardware or what
01:34 < morpho> well... most puffy fish dont have the most cash
01:34 < hollywood> yeah AMD makes open source graphics drivers
01:34 < hollywood> NVIDIA is closed source so it's pretty impossible to port
01:35 < oldlaptop> but with the latest MediaVPs and so on... at any given time you can generally get any brand-new GPU near its limits, as a general rule
01:35 < hollywood> and NVIDIA would never support OpenBSD because neither consumers nor enterprise runs OpenBSD with Nvidia
01:35 < morpho> nvidia bad
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01:36 < MegaAutist> hackers should leak source code of nvidia drivers
01:36 < pardis> if you just want to learn the system, put it in a VM or buy a cheap, old, used ThinkPad to run it on
01:36 < jmcunx> I could be wring, I thought it was due to no loadable kernel modules in OpenBSD (license issues being ignired)
01:36 < pardis> you don't need to install it on your main computer right away (or ever)
01:36 < hollywood> it'd be a legal nightmare integrating leaked source code
01:36 < jmcunx> wring = wrong
01:36  * oldlaptop enthusiastically recommends using a cheap, old, used ThinkPad as your main computer
01:37 < oldlaptop> jmcunx: That's certainly a reason NVIDIA would have problems supporting OpenBSD even if they wanted to.
01:37 < oldlaptop> (You'd need to distribute your own binary kernels. Sounds like fun, right?)
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01:38 < morpho> thinkpad too heavy
01:38 < oldlaptop> Oh, and do they still need to replace half of the Linux equivalent of xenocara?
01:38 < thrig> didn't sony have some special rootkits or something
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01:38 < hollywood> morpho: depends. Thinkpad X13s is size of an ipad it's a newer thinkpad though
01:39 < morpho> the education one?
01:39 < hollywood> it's a snapdragon based thinkpad
01:39 < hollywood> it's my daily driver
01:39 < jmcunx> thinkpad builds muscles, plus can protect you in a dark alley :)
01:40  * oldlaptop would not think that's a very good idea - not if you want to run openbsd on the thing, anyway
01:40 < oldlaptop> But I'm not up on the latest arm64 headaches... :)
01:40 < thrig> model m has better zombie stopping power
01:40 < hollywood> oldlaptop: i got such a good deal on this laptop i was down for the arm64 headaches
01:41 < hollywood> happy choice imo excellent build quality i'm someone who breaks laptops real fast
01:41 < morpho> ive had a few thinkpads break
01:41 < hollywood> thinkpad X230 lasted me 2 months, thinkpad T450 lasted me 4. This has lasted me a year and no issues
01:41 < morpho> the early ones like x60s were really easy to maintain
01:42 < hollywood> i've had great luck with toshiba laptops before, imo way better build quality than thinkpads. Issue is they're slow
01:42 < morpho> ive fiddled around with x230 but i think thats when they changed it to where you could replace keyboard without pulling out whole Mobo
01:42 < morpho> couldnt replace without*
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01:43 < morpho> its all same shit now, just wish they gave us more ports >_<
01:44 < MegaAutist> i love bsd logo
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01:58 < morpho> you can play as puffy and daemony in super tux kart
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02:09 < oldlaptop> I see it's April 1st somewhere on tech@
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02:11 < oldlaptop> (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=177500436827893&w=2)
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03:31 < thrig> isn't the responder already subscribed?
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04:25 < deimosBSD> great follow-up, https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=177500487928139&w=2
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05:08 < avemestr> oldlaptop: Regarding car analogies, I'm sure you're aware of Neal Stephensons "In the beginning... was the command line"?
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05:18 < renaud> ah, yes, it's 1st of april today
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05:21 < mischief> crud, i need to come up with a joke for work
05:22 < mischief> last year i installed 0verkill into our linux distro ;)
05:24 < lts> Send an email that due to GDPR everyone's home directories will become o+rx in one hour
05:29 < mischief> our distribution runs on wireless routers :P
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07:28 < renaud> Due to GDPR, home directories will become u-rwx
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08:24 < anthk_> vibecoded tmux in base is not a joke
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08:48 < renaud> vibecoded tmux? interesting, I always thought it was coded by humans
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08:52 < renaud> it's amazing the number of bugs you can find in base by fuzzing
08:53 < renaud> well, there are probably fewer than on linux :D
08:55 < renaud> I am only wondering if someone is looking at the reports I send
08:56 < IcePic> I think they are, those are well researched as far as I can see, often with simple-enough-fixes attached
08:56 < IcePic> no reason for those to go unnoticed
08:56 < IcePic> perhaps some of them need to pass regress suites and so on before committing
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08:57 < renaud> I don't know what the testing flow looks like TBH
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08:59 < IcePic> for a small subpart of base, /usr/src/regress holds a certain amount of tests.
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08:59 < IcePic> but I guess things like sed,awk and so on would presumably have torture-test files of their own somewhere
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09:19 < renaud> found another one in getcap(3)
09:20 < renaud> I am trying to get a VM on oracle cloud free tier to speed up things, but it's hard to get one.
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09:29 < sibiria> if you upgrade to paid tenancy it's a lot easier
09:29 < sibiria> it won't cost you anything but a temporary surcharge that will be reversed later
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09:49 < renaud> I have made a script which tries to create a VM every 2 minutes, it will succeed at some point I guess.
09:50 < sibiria> if on a free tenancy, OCI may also terminate your compute instance while it's running, in order to give resources to a paid tenancy
09:50 < sibiria> sudden fireworks
09:51 < renaud> it's already a paid tenancy, but I only use free tier
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10:00 < renaud> ah, no, my CC has been removed as it seems
10:01 < renaud> 93€ reserved, they go high
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10:02 < sibiria> $100 target. putting the price back in enterprise
10:03 < renaud> hmm, I registered a card, it was confirmed, reserved and refunded, but I se no payment method
10:03 < sibiria> [VISA] [Mastercard] [First-born child], pick any
10:04 < zelest> They want my beta-release? Hah! Their loss!
10:04 < renaud> they might not support prepaid cards like N26
10:05 < sibiria> the domestic prepaids started to become tricky to use internationally some 10 years ago, in my experience. it's a shame, i preferred them over handing over my real visa/mastercard
10:06 < renaud> hmm, there is no payment method in the window, but if I try to add another, it lists my card
10:10 < renaud> I can't even remove it since it's not listed
10:11 < renaud> and my VISA was refused for some obscure reason
10:11 < renaud> I will leave it that way, they might need a day to process it
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11:39 < renaud> at least the opensmtpd ones were comitted :)
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11:49 < mischief> i couldn't even make an oracle account, let alone a vm
11:53 < renaud> when did you try?
11:54 < mischief> hm, a couple weeks ago i think
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12:38 < IcePic> renaud: now commits are starting to drop in
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12:44 < renaud> fsck fix...
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12:44 < renaud> IcePic: you mean the non opensmtpd ones?
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12:47 < IcePic> renaud: yes
12:47 < IcePic> no, sorry, it was smtpd
12:47 < renaud> lol
12:48 < renaud> 5 more issues found
12:48 < IcePic> "There are some men in black suits wanting to talk to you. They will not take 'no' for an answer"
12:49 < renaud> "maybe"
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12:50 < renaud> it's funny nobody fuzzed everything, but I agree it takes awful lots of time
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12:52 < sibiria> i think "anton lindqvist" did a lot of fuzzying in the past, but it's many years back, before modern LLMs
12:53 < IcePic> yes, he ran (runs?) a lot of syzkaller stuff
12:53 < mischief> renaud: its one reason that klee is neat
12:53 < mischief> its a bit smarter than just throwing shit at the wall n times a second :)
12:53 < renaud> yes, I saw that syzkaller stuff
12:54 < renaud> I will have a look at klee afterwards probably
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13:16 < renaud> I didn't expect multiple issues in patch(1)
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13:55 < renaud> there is a use after free in patch(1), but very hard to reproduce
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14:19 < f451> hi. i have a rpi4b/8gb running openbsd7.8 with all the patches and it works really well. when i cane to install it i installed 9at the time) install77.img to another usb stick, booted to it and installed to an external ssd - no microsd involvement. i tried the same procedure with install78.img onto a rpi5 but can only get ads far as the u-boot square in the corner right of the screen and no
14:19 < f451> further.
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14:24 < f451> dunno what further to do because https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.8/arm64/INSTALL.arm64 isn't significantly different for rpi5 and there's no https://github.com/pftf/RPi5/
14:24 < f451> maybe need to try -current
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14:35 < cjs> f451: topic adjacent: FBSD maintains official bootable images for the Pi series that are even easier to use than, say, Raspbian (see e.g. my post coreystephan.com/pi4-freebsd), and there are semi-official NetBSD images (nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/arm/). <-- if you cannot get the installer, etc. to work for OpenBSD.
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14:47 < f451> ive had fbsd on the pi4 working fine too. id really like openbsd working on the pi5 though. freebsd on the pi ethernet wont work and i need that to work. problem im having rn is openbsd on the pi5 is actually meant to work and i cant get it to get to the first stage of boot. it's not that the installer won't work - it's not getting to the installer stage yet. AIUI openbsd did a lot of devtree work
14:47 < f451> to get the RP1 chip working ewhich is why it can see ethernet
14:47 < renaud> not able to find the exact UAF issue in patch(1)
14:49 < f451> cjs: it's not getting to the OpenBSD BOOTAA64 thing
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14:50 < f451> or do you think using the freebsd guts will allow it to get passt that? but will it then use device tree and so ethernet?
14:51 < f451> by freebsd guts i mean the msdos stuff
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14:52 < cjs> f451: Hmmm I suppose trying a -current snapshot first would be a good idea
14:53 < f451> just tried that, same result. i think it might be down to the same msdos contents but my expertise at this is at the level of throwing plates of spaghetti at the wall
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15:02 < mischief> renaud: would setting malloc options help diagnose?
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15:10 < cgnarne> f451: is your power supply beefy enough?
15:12 < f451> yes the rpi came as a rpi5 kit from the pihut it's the official supply for the rpi5
15:12 < f451> raspios runs fine
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15:24 < morpho> can you get to it over serial console
15:30 < f451> i could but it'd be v awkward. but it's not getting to the point where comms would hand it over to serial ie the OpenBSD BOOTAA64 boot>
15:30 < f451> unless im mistaken
15:30 < f451> or
15:30 < f451> morpho: youve given me an idea
15:30 < f451> i can set boot params in the install media
15:31 < f451> from a freebsd box
15:31 < f451> ok ill try that
15:31 < renaud> mischief: I tried, and no, that doesn't really help. ASan would help, but there is no way to run that on OpenBSD.
15:31 < renaud> At least someone is having a look, I just got a mail from Theo
15:33 < sibiria> and it's an amicable e-mail?!
15:33 < renaud> yes :)
15:33 < renaud> he's mosly asking me how much there will be, but I still don't know
15:33 < sibiria> holy cannoli
15:34 < Bradipo> Cannoli do have a big hole through them, yes.
15:34 < renaud> I have found some running ASan on linux with stubbed functions
15:35 < renaud> but for patch(1), I cannot reproduce on linux
15:37 < morpho> they are not that disagreeable
15:37 < morpho> seems like quite a nice guy who likes cycling
15:38 < sibiria> tearing people new arseholes over innocuous and valid questions on the mailing lists is one of theo's most famous party tricks
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15:40 < morpho> i saw one the one about removing 'quim' from word list but its not that bad
15:41 < morpho> lol
15:42 < renaud> sibiria: he even sent me another even friendlier one ;)
15:42 < sibiria> first this, and later tonight mankind is going back to the moon
15:42 < sibiria> unbelievable
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15:49 < lts> *aim somewhere near the moon and fly by
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15:53 < mischief> sibiria: we hope they are, reading about the state of the rocket made me lose a bit of confidence
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15:55 < morpho> we have enough cheese on earth
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16:03 < renaud> they are already launching way too much rockets theses days
16:04 < lts> At least this one is advancing space exploration instead of littering our orbit
16:05 < thrig> "it's not my department as to where they come down", said Wernher von Braun
16:10 < sibiria> and the chinese
16:13 < morpho> maybe a better place for social
16:13 < morpho> but ive wondered why they dont just use kites
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16:31 < renaud> did someone receive my mail to bugs@ with the reply to Theo about gprof? It was accepted by mail.openbsd.org, but somehow isn't showing in the list
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16:33 < sibiria> sporadic greylisting, perhaps
16:34 < renaud> it was accepted, not greylisted
16:34 < renaud> strage
16:34 < renaud> *strange
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16:35 < Bradipo> Message-Id: <ac1EnKhKwjDJF60U@***>
16:36 < Bradipo> I see that message.
16:37 < Bradipo> Though, there are a lot of other messages that precede that.  At any rate, with so many emails, it's possible that the mail queue is just taking time to work through it all.
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16:41 < thrig> the internet is a series of tubes
16:43 < Bradipo> So is cambozola (cheese).
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17:07 < Foxy_> renaud: message about gprof received on bugs@ :)
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17:09 < thrig> and sometimes things get stuck in those tubes
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17:25 < renaud> Foxy_: the one with my reply to Theo?
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17:25 < Bradipo> renaud: I posted a message-id above, is that the one you're talking about?
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17:31 < Foxy_> renaud: 2 messages posted by you and 2 responses by Theo
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17:57 < renaud> Theo has begun commiting
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18:56 < morpho> can openrsync work from checksums?
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18:57 < morpho> in a way that repairs corrupted files by replacing them with the correct one
19:00 < thrig> rsync checksums are one-way functions so it may be difficult to reverse that to obtain the original data, if that's what you are asking
19:00 < morpho> yeah so if drive A has a corrupted file and rsyncs to drive B, it will spread that corruption on
19:01 < morpho> instead of noticing drive B has the correct copy and `repairing` the corrupted one
19:01 < morpho> there seems to be an option in macos rsync
19:02 < uwharrie> this presupposes you know beforehand which file is corrupt and which isn't
19:04 < morpho> i have checksums of all the files.
19:04 < thrig> rsync doesn't do backup depth, you need something (slow) like rsnapshot for that, or there are better backup softwares
19:04 < uwharrie> there's also the PAR tools for repairing corruption
19:05 < cgnarne> morpho: if you want something that can do that, have a look at git-annex
19:06 < morpho> yeah its just to backup a machine
19:06 < uwharrie> the only use rsync makes of checksums is to determine if blocks don't match and need to be transferred. you'd need something else to either deleted or repair corrupted files
19:08 < morpho> as i said, i do have the checksums. i could just write a script that checksums everything every now and again and deals with corruption manually
19:08 < morpho> ive never had passive bitrot unless the drive has been close to death anyway
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19:10 < uwharrie> I stick to rsync off device and aim mtree(8) at things I care about for bitrot detection
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19:10 < morpho> wdym off device?
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19:11 < morpho> is that mtree -s
19:11 < uwharrie> i.e. the backup lives on a different machine and/or external drive
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19:12 < morpho> ok. this is to an externel drive
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19:16 < morpho> huh, didnt know about mtree
19:17 < uwharrie> it's what /usr/libexec/security uses as a low effort bitrot/accident/anti-tampering tool
19:20 < morpho> so, mtree both drives, stop if any files are corrupt, then rsync otherwise
19:20 < thrig> or just backup with restic or something to external drive
19:21 < morpho> is that what you use thrig 
19:21 < morpho> i like just using stuff in base
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19:22 < thrig> rsync won't give you backup depth, for that you'd need dump(8)
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19:23 < Bradipo> By backup depth you mean levels?
19:23 < Bradipo> e.g. incremental backups?
19:23 < thrig> if you mirror a corrupt file you're fucked. if you have depth you can go back through the backups and find where the corruption or bad change isn't present
19:24 < morpho> thats why you mtree before no?
19:24 < uwharrie> I use mtree to collect checksums on some rarely changing data, dump them in /etc/mtree and get the nightly checks for free to notify me if I need to collect new ones, it's time to replace a drive due to bitrot, then regularly back up the files and the checksums using rsync with the slight confidence from the nightly checks
19:24 < Bradipo> If you use --link-dest with rsync you can get that ability.
19:25 < uwharrie> if any of the data was business critical, I'd be using rsnapshot/borg/restic/etc
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20:57 < morpho> its a tricky problem
20:58 < morpho> the old data integrity
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21:16 < morpho> can mtree actually catch bitrot and file corruption?
21:16 < thrig> easy to test by corrupting a file
21:17 < thrig> (but why backup files that the installer can replicate for you?)
21:17 < morpho> its for user data
21:17 < morpho> the machine might just get netbooted
21:17 < sibiria> morpho: in a way. it checkums the files so it sees changes
21:18 < thrig> users may change files a lot, so why not use backup software for that?
21:18 < thrig> they are also usually very slow at detecting corruption, so you may need to go back weeks or even months to fix some screwup
21:19 < eea> world backup day was yesterday
21:21 < morpho> i dont like how you cant just read files from backup software
21:21 < thrig> you can, with rsnapshot (but it's hella slow)
21:22 < sibiria> my backups are compressed tar-balls. pretty easy to wrangle. ok they are encrypted, too, but still
21:22 < eea> if you can't recover a file from backup, is it a valid backup at all?
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21:40 < jmcunx> sibiria: curious, I use port ccrypt to encrypt my backups, what do you use ?
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21:56 < sibiria> jmcunx: openssl, to make things portable and accessible from any setup
21:56 < sibiria> i.e. almost any system, without internet requirement
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21:59 < thrig> some you might need to install ports for ssl and tar onto?
22:00 < sibiria> windows would be the only one i use every now and then, which will need internet for it
22:01 < sibiria> macOS and any regular linux covers it
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22:06 < sibiria> i also keep a USB memory stick around with linux Mint on it, for contingency and such
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22:13 < Bradipo> I'm confused why the c slice is so big...
22:13 < Bradipo> https://pastebin.com/raw/iRx8jJxa
22:14 < Bradipo> It looks like I should be able to add a lot more space, but I cannot.
22:17 < Bradipo> fdisk shows that there are only 42948528000 total sectors.  So why does c show 7814037167?
22:18 < Bradipo> Sorry, I got an extra 0 on that... should be 4294852800.
22:19 < Bradipo> dmesg does show that sd2 has 7814037167 sectors...
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22:23 < Bradipo> So this drive is apparently a 4TB drive...
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22:25 < Bradipo> I suppose this is a problem with MBR vs GPT?
22:26 < sibiria> >2 TB, go with GPT
22:26 < Bradipo> Yeah, I'm just realizing that.
22:26 < Bradipo> Now I'm going to have to figure out how to reformat without losing the data that's on it.
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22:27 < Bradipo> I wonder if I can convert it to GPT and still have the partition boundaries the same...
22:28 < Bradipo> The first partition starts at an offset of 256.
22:28 < Bradipo> Which I think means I should be able to fit a GPT in there.
22:32 < Bradipo> GPT takes only 34 blocks, right, so do I risk it?
22:33 < Bradipo> e.g. if I reinitialize with just a blank GPT that shouldn't overwrite any of the actual data.
22:34 < sibiria> godspeed
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22:34 < thrig> you could like test on a virt first or something
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22:34 < Bradipo> Good point, vnd to the rescue.
22:36 < thrig> you only lose octets
22:40 < Bradipo> As in a few blocks that will be unused?
22:42 < thrig> YOLO is usually you only live once and may be invoked when a darwin award is gained, so what you're doing is (probably) safer
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22:44 < jmcunx> sibiria: Thanks, I may look to using openssl to move to something 'standard'
22:46 < Bradipo> Haha, I wondered why the obscure reference to octets.  Nice.
22:47 < Bradipo> Preliminary testing with vnd seems to suggest that what I want to do will work without harming anything.
22:53 < Bradipo> It worked.  OpenBSD FTW.
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23:02 < Bradipo> https://github.com/califio/publications/tree/main/MADBugs/CVE-2026-4747
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23:11 < Bradipo> When using dump(8) with levels... what does it use as a reference for the previous level?
23:12 < Bradipo> Presumably I first do: dump 0
23:12 < Bradipo> And then if I want a level 1, I would do: dump 1
23:12 < Bradipo> But when I tried that, it seemed to just generate another level 0, not 1.
23:16 < Bradipo> Hmm, maybe I have to use -u
23:17 < mischief> my current dump invocation for backup
23:17 < mischief> ~       5       *       *       6       dump -b64 -0auf - /    | ssh fugu@192.168.0.10 "zstd --compress --stdout | pv -o /srv/backups/fugu/slash-$(date +\%Y\%m\%d).dump0.zst"
23:18 < mischief> i should probably learn to use dump levels, but this has worked fine since they're small
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23:20 < Bradipo> Yeah, my /home is quite large...
23:20 < Bradipo> So I think I want to use dump levels.
23:21 < Bradipo> I suppose I could just rotate level 0s out and just always use level 0.
23:22 < mischief> yea, i also have
23:22 < mischief> ~       5       *       *       6       ssh fugu@192.168.0.10 "find /srv/backups/fugu/ -ctime +60 -delete"
23:22 < mischief> :-)
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