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00:06 < deepesttoaster> mischief: I do have a dtb and I'm pretty sure drivers. 
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01:29 < mischief> phew
01:30 < mischief> after a bit of pain i was able to build OVMF on openbsd using llvm from packages
01:30 < mischief> now to find out if it boots
01:31 < deepesttoaster> fingers crossed :-)
01:34 < mischief> that is a negative ghostrider, immediately dies
01:34 < mischief> mischief@a485.home.arpa:/home/mischief/src/edk2 $ doas qemu-system-x86_64 -name pxe -machine q35 -cpu qemu64 -drive if=pflash,format=raw,unit=0,file=./Build/OvmfX64/RELEASE_CLANGDWARF/FV/OVMF.fd,readonly=on -serial mon:stdio -nographic
01:34 < mischief> Send INIT break packet and try to connect the HOST (Intel(R) UDK Debugger Tool v1.5) ...
01:34 < mischief> ?Y<@WException happened, ExceptionNum is 0, EIP = 0xFFFD275E.
01:40 < mischief> okay, if i turn off the debug crap it works
01:41 < mischief> but the whole point of building this and turning on the debug crap was to debug BOOTX64.EFI pxe booting. :(
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03:23 < rnkn> what is the correct way to use adduser and give the user no password, but still SSH key login?
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03:26 < morpho> err i cant remember the adduser but there is a difference between no password and no password login
03:26 < morpho> no password is useful for hosting public services
03:27 < pardis> see the part of passwd(5) mentioning 13 asterisks
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03:29 < morpho> i still think its good to keep a password, just block its use from ssh. what are you doing
03:32 < rnkn> in /etc/passwd the users I added with useradd have the 13 *'s but the then I used adduser for a couple and it had only one * and security(8) sends me a nag that login is off
03:33 < rnkn> in /etc/adduser.conf I have defaultpasswd = "no"
03:34 < morpho> https://gameoftrees.org/gotsh.1.html
03:35 < morpho> the examples might help, thats what i followed when i was doing something similar
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06:23 < WrezHole> f451: Or just a jst adapter. i know i was pissed of that it didn't work so i thikn i tryied everything 
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08:58 < Ozymandias42> mischief: I tried supplying BOOTX64.EFI directly again today. As expected it loads it and immediately crashes into a reboot, loading it again. However ONCE, just a single time it actually didn't crash and worked as expected
08:58 < Ozymandias42> was even able to boot bsd.rd
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10:05 < mischief> Ozymandias42: i wonder if this is a regression, in either ovmf or the loader
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11:34 < f451> WrezHole: jst to usb2 adapter? i didnt think of that
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11:49 < Ozymandias42> mischief: tested it on real hardware too to the same effect so this seems to be in the loader
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11:54 < mischief> Ozymandias42: is your gateway/boot server openbsd/dhcpd?
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11:55 < Ozymandias42> mischief: openwrt with dnsmasq
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11:56 < mischief> hum, ok. guess that's unlikely to be it then.
11:57 < Ozymandias42> openwrt dnsmasq is sometimes strange so I wouldn't completely write it off but it's unlikely, yes.
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11:58 < Ozymandias42> what's more it works without issue for the BIOS variant and it also works for pxe-booting raspberry pis with raspiOS boot-envs
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11:58 < mischief> i'm using openbsd dhcpd+tftpd
11:59 < mischief> using this secret magic sauce in dhcpd
11:59 < mischief>         # UEFI PXE Boot
11:59 < mischief>         vendor-class "PXEClient:Arch:00007:UNDI:003001" {
11:59 < mischief>                 filename "ipxe.efi";
11:59 < mischief>                 option vendor-encapsulated-options 06:01:08:ff;
11:59 < mischief>         }
11:59 < Ozymandias42> that's the ipxe environment and you then `chain BOOTX64.EFI` from there, right?
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12:00 < Ozymandias42> for me that gives me a stable bsd bootloader but one unable to then load bsd.rd via tftp
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12:01 < mischief> sorry yes that's for ipxe
12:01 < mischief> but just s/ipxe.efi/BOOTX64.EFI/ for direct load
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12:01 < mischief> old mail i sent https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=167883676009335&w=2
12:01 < Ozymandias42> heck, I even tried using pxe-grub2 to then use `kopenbsd bsd.rd` from there. that also just crashes
12:02 < Ozymandias42> it's super strange
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12:13 < minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
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12:15 < minall> I'm trying to configure the touchpad of my Dell Latitude E6440, right now I don't have two finger scroll, and when I use two finger, the touchpad just stops and doesn't do anything. The system is using the pms0 driver, and that uses wsmouse, and I see that xorg is using the ws driver.
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12:16 < minall> I'm reading in wsmouse that I can activate absolute mode using synaptics, so I created a configuration in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, added http://dpaste.com/HB33VFGFB and restarted Xorg
12:17 < minall> However, in the Xorg.0.log I see that I'm always setting the same, so I'm not sure if my configuration is being seen. I wonder if I am missing something or read the manual wrongly... I'll check the FAQ. 
12:17 < minall> This is the output of Xorg.0.log: http://dpaste.com/9G9PP9YKV
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12:32 < sonya> minall: try to ensure, that tp is /dev/wsmouse: $ xinput test /dev/wsmouse .. then, may be, $ man xinput  could give some ideas, like '$ xinput list-props /dev/wsmouse ' ..  though i'm not an expert in things like this, sorry..
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12:40 < minall> sonya: Thanks, It is getting inputs with xinput test of my touchpad
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12:41 < minall> For the props, I see WS Pointer optins like Middle Button Emulation and others, but nothing on the settings I want
12:42 < minall> The most simple would be to use wsconsctl, but it doesn't show much. type ps2, scaling and reverse_scrolling. No other setting like mouse.tp.tapping that I have in other laptops I have with OpenBSD
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12:45 < sonya> minall: WS Pointer Middle Button Emulation (296):       2    ??
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12:48 < minall> Yes
12:48 < minall> I have that prop listed.
12:48 < sonya> things like 'it just works'© but not here...
12:50 < minall> wdym?
12:50 < minall> Well, my tapping does work :D
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12:51 < sonya> there was some ps/2 issues with tp's and thinkpad's redbuttons, if i'm not mistaken.. need to check..
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12:57 < minall> I can live with it
12:57 < minall> Was just checking hehe
12:57 < minall> Everything else is working perfectly.
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13:05 < ivdsangen> its probably not the cause but is EmulateWheel a valid option?
13:06 < minall> Nope, in wsconsctl I can only see the type, reverse_scrolling to 0 and scaling
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13:10 < sonya> minall:  https://termbin.com/ec9o  → the only thing i got so far, sorry
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13:33 < minall> Sorry was updating, sonya I didn't catch the configuration file you sent me, was about to open it and then update happened (to current)
13:34 < minall> Strangely, now I cannot run certain applications... I get child terminated due to signal 6 and GPU process isn't usable when trying to open ungoogled-chromium
13:34 < minall> THis was working before current, I wonder if I need to add myself to a specific group now?
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13:38 < minall> I'll restart again...
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13:43 < minall> Strange, same issue... I'll check the docs
13:48 < minall> Yeah gonna downgrade.
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13:56 < minall> May be a simple case of packages needing update, so my own ignorance
13:56 < mischief> yes, you need to update packages.
13:57 < minall> mischief: Where would I read this?... I checked the FAQ on upgrading packages and the sysupgrade manual. I mean, to know that I need to `pkg_add -u` after an update 
13:57 < minall> Though it is fairly obvious, just a part I missed.
13:58 < mischief> it says it right on https://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html, lol
13:59 < cgnarne> sometimes packages may not have caught up with snapshots
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14:01 < minall> Perhaps I'm not seeing it mischief, o.... I don't see the mention of pkg_add -u or packages
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14:02 < mischief> > Any installed packages should then be upgraded after booting into the new system. 
14:02 < mischief> ???
14:02 < minall> mischief: Just saw it
14:03 < minall> (Because you mentioned the exact words, I didn't saw it after scanning several times)
14:03 < minall> Thanks, I should read more carefully 
14:03 < minall> Welp, now upgrading
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14:07 < cgnarne> it bears repeating that running current means that there can and will be broken stuff
14:10 < oldlaptop> you get to keep both pieces, though, and if you keep it up to date people will probably be happy to give you advice on the best way to apply duct tape
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14:15 < minall> oldlaptop: That is mostly why I wanted to go to current
14:15 < minall> There is a bug regarding my AKG Lyra microphone, which I will debug later (have to set some kernel flags for debugging) but everything is better to do in current, just to be sure it isn't fixed already
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15:42 < unpx> Reading the FAQ for VM networking, I read "we'll use the 10.0.0.0/8 subnet", while the config is `inet 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0`, am I drunk?
15:42 < unpx> Option 3 https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq16.html#VMMnet
15:43 < mischief> the /8 is probably the typo since it says /24 below
15:44 < unpx> I saw that stuff got renamed in the mean time to veb/vport, but I don't recall the older naming
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15:45 < mischief> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/ seems horked at the moment
15:45 < mrbubzie78> Anyone use openbsd on MacBook Pro?
15:46 < unpx> mrbubzie78: perhaps that's the best use of a MBP. But what are you looking for?
15:47 < mrbubzie78> There was an acpi patch that was committed for machines newer then 2015 that were failing early in the boot process when installing n
15:47 < mrbubzie78> It was suppose to have been in the latest snapshots but it’s not working for me
15:48 < unpx> mischief: I wonder if there is a guide for configuring multiple switches and rules for vms. The goal would be having a switch for internal NFS stuff so that VMs can be as slim as install requires. Would have another switch for a DMZ VM I want to spin up for a friend
15:49 < mrbubzie78> https://openbsdonapple.wiki/doku.php?id=misc:acpi_patch
15:50 < mrbubzie78> As of right now I’m unable to boot to the openbsd installer because if the acpi issue. Just wondered if anyone had a patched image for 7.8
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15:52 < mischief> unpx: what do you need a guide for? just do it
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16:09 < unpx> mischief: considering the pain I go through configuring basic stuff on Linux, every time I do it on OpenBSD seems like it's idiot proof
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16:39 < renaud> mischief: cvsweb has had multiple issues for me recently
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16:53 < oldlaptop> maybe the bots have figured out the new URL scheme
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16:55 < ssm_> renaud: they should switch to rcs+ftp :3
16:55 < ssm_> I mean, ftp mirrors are basically that
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17:53 < mischief> Ozymandias42: sent a mail to misc, maybe there will be a bite
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19:14 < Ozymandias42> mischief: 👍
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20:10 < WrezHole> f451: :) ment from gpio sticks to jst 
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21:09 < morpho> can i run network information service across openbsd and linux?
21:09 < morpho> there are a few users and groups i want shared across a network. i dont know if thats a thing people do
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21:20 < echelon> morpho: https://iris.eecs.berkeley.edu/faq/unix/nis/
21:20 < echelon> > should work for all other flavors of Linux and BSD
21:21 < mischief> morpho: ldap?
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21:36 < thrig> ldap, or use configuration management to setup identical users and groups
21:40 < morpho> thrig: wdym? ive heard of ldap. Il probably just end up manually setting users in uid 2000-3000 space or something manually for now
21:42 < vortexx> ldap is the more proper way. NIS works but isn't encrypted over the network (so wg tunnels host to host are needed)
21:42 < vortexx> managing groups across hosts is an issue as old as computing
21:43 < echelon> morpho: using config management like with ansible basically automates the manual steps
21:44 < mischief> never set it up myself, but work uses sssd/kerberos/ldap (AD)
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21:44 < mischief> login_ldap and ypldap would do similar, right?
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21:45 < morpho> i have 5 machines
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21:46 < morpho> and some need nfs access to each others
21:46 < morpho> but its annoying because the uid/guid of the fs is all different
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