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01:00 < deimosBSD> It's in the news because Anthropic is blasting every media outlet with their find, https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing
01:00 < deimosBSD> they got lucky and now want to tell everyone how lucky they were
01:01 < dg> all publicity is good, right? openbsd got mentioned in the new york times
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01:04 < deimosBSD> and for 27 years, no one managed to find or exploit the bug
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01:23 < Bradipo> There may be other similar bugs that are not publicized.
01:25  * deimosBSD assumes this is the case, always
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01:41 < thrig> openbsd doesn't have billion dollar valuations so may not be interesting to some
01:41 < morpho> huh
01:42 < morpho> remote crash is not too bad tbf
01:45 < morpho> is that /after/ pf hadnt blocked the connection
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01:52 < darwin> pkg_add php-gd: Can't install gd-2.3.3 because of libraries: library fontconfig.14.0 not found, library freetype.31.1 not found. Can't install php-gd-8.4.19: can't resolve gd-2.3.3
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01:58 < pardis> looks like you're missing bits of OpenBSD
01:59 < darwin> yeah; are those X libraries?  I don't have X
01:59 < darwin> but this is for a HTTPD
01:59 < darwin> if they're used for other things they should be in a different set
01:59 < pardis> if you chose not to install part of OpenBSD, it seems unsurprising that you would be missing parts of OpenBSD
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02:03 < darwin> you're right
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02:04 < phy1729> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#FilesNeeded and the next item has how to add a set after install
02:05 < darwin> thanks
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02:17  * oldlaptop wonders how much longer it'll be before there's just one set
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02:43 < tangentnet> oldlaptop: A single set is inconvenient. I only require 6 sets.
02:47 < oldlaptop> I suppose you better hope not too many people whine on misc@ about how $random_port needs xbase, then.
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02:55 < tangentnet> I hear you.
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05:12 < rkta> This article https://home.nuug.no/~peter/pf/en/bruteforce.html talks about calling pfctl with -T expire to clear entries from an overload table. Do I get this right, that I will have to do this regularly e.g. by cron to limit the table in size or can I add a limit in my pf.conf?
05:32 < rnkn> rkta: pretty sure a cron with -T is the way
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05:46 < cgnarne> yes, looks like you have to periodically gc stale entries
05:57 < dlg> or move to source pools
05:58 < dlg> i mean source limiters
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06:02 < rkta> source limiters?
06:03 < dlg> https://man.openbsd.org/pf.conf#Source_Limiters
06:05 < rkta> hm... why don't I see this in man 5 pf.conf...
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06:09 < dlg> it was committed after 7.8
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12:28 < jab> well I'm an idiot.  I think I just accidentally deleted a file.  Does FFS have an option for, let's recover that file that I just deleted ? 
12:29 < pardis> the best method for that is backups
12:29 < pardis> the "I wish I had backups" method is the testdisk package
12:30 < jab> thanks.
12:30 < pardis> a few files in /etc are automatically backed up to /var/backups, in case you were lucky enough to delete one of those
12:30 < vdamewood> But installing the package COULD overwrite the file fragments.
12:30 < thrig> various annoying tricks if file descriptor is open somewhere
12:30 < jab> it was a file in ~/  .  A ledger.dat file that had my small business accounting information.
12:31 < jab> so yeah...
12:31 < pardis> installing a package is unlikely to overwrite any blocks on the /home partition, assuming you followed the FAQ's advice on partitioning
12:31 < pardis> but also, that sounds like a file you really really want to back up in future
12:31 < vdamewood> true
12:31 < jab> I don't think the file descriptor is still open.  I used emacs' dired to move a file.  Apparently I moved the wrong file overwritting another one.
12:32 < mischief> if you unmount the filesystem and make an image of it, you have a tiny sliver of a chance of recovering it manually
12:32 < jab> do I need to unmount like right now ?
12:32 < mischief> before any writes happen, so, yes
12:32 < vdamewood> Does your IRC client save any logs to ~?
12:33 < mischief> if you know some of the contents, you can just grep the image file to find it
12:33 < mischief> if it's text, it's easy, if it's binary it's harder
12:33 < pardis> as long as it's not a large amount of text on a heavily fragmented filesystem
12:34 < jab> ok shutting down now.
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16:49 < loopb> "interview with an emacs user" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcL86UpqZc
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18:03 < ssm_> loopb: on opening that I expected a comedically sized cast over the user's left pinky
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18:34 < riceandbeans> ssm_: That's what pedals are for
18:38 < ssm_> emacs users graft left control to capslock, vi users graft escape to capslock
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18:51 < thrig> usually I disable or remove the capslock
18:51 < riceandbeans> I don't, I reserve capslock for yelling at people and for consts in my code
18:52 < deepesttoaster> riceandbeans: I can't do that or I'd never be able to turn off capslock. Just hold shift when I want to not yell at someone.
18:53 < deepesttoaster> :)
18:53 < thrig> or just 99~ to do or undo shouty in vi
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20:53 < seninha> Hi, when running `make port-lib-depends-check`, it issues a “Missing lib: foo.1 (/usr/local/lib/libfoo.so.1.0) (NOT REACHABLE)” line, but without the “WANTLIB += foo” that i get for reachable libraries.
20:53 < ssm_> map right alt to menu, map right shift to... compose? I guess
20:54 < seninha> Should I add “WANTLIB += foo” in the Makefile? Or should i fix the building so that is not reported on a next port-lib-depends-check? Or should I just ignore it and send to ports@ this way?
20:55 < seninha> ssm_, why not both? You can remap CapsLk to both Esc and Ctrl: Esc when typed alone; Ctrl when pressed together with another key.
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20:55 < seninha> (requres x11/xcape, from ports)
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20:57 < ssm_> seninha: because I don't use emacs so lctrl is seldom used
20:58 < ssm_> also would be nice if my paradigms were identical in both X and wscons
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