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00:17 < morpho> ive updated the port of headscale from 0.26 to 0.28
00:18 < morpho> im testing on snapshots though
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01:15 < lusciouslover> i installed obsd on another computer today and i wanted to make the hostname mysite.tld but when i did that i noticed it changed the hostname to mysite.lan
01:15 < lusciouslover> why does it do this?
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01:15 < lusciouslover> is there any harm if i go back and change the /etc/myname file to mysite.tld
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01:18  * tangentnet >gracefully bows out of irrelevant channels (#Lobsters), where reasoned discourse and civil exchange are dismissed as bot content. Only Unix channels remain decent and fun.<
01:21 < phy1729> tangentnet: Please stick to OpenBSD and don't comment on other channels.
01:22 < tangentnet> phy1729, noted.
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02:23 < lts> lusciouslover: see "man myname"
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02:31 < lusciouslover> so it would be fine if i did `127.0.0.1 mydomain.tld` in /etc/hosts and then set /etc/myname to `mydomain.tld`?
02:32 < lusciouslover> in this context mydomain.tld is a domain i own which points to the systems ip
02:33 < lusciouslover> i dont know really much about networking so sorry if this is a ridiculous question 
02:41 < lts> It should be fine yes, after you reboot. There is a slight difference where your system will think mydomain.tld is 127.0.0.1 and other systems rely on the DNS answer for mydomain.tld, e.g. 1.2.3.4. This mainly affects you if you plan to run services bound to an IP address
02:44 < lusciouslover> thanks for the explanation, that helps a lot
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12:52 < t3ch> The ten rules or laws given by God to the prophet Moses are called the Ten Commandments
12:57 < sibiria> yes
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13:22 < renaud> t3ch: there were 15 in the beginning but Moses dropped 1 entire tablet
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13:23 < t3ch> nice* love your words
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13:24 < t3ch> and i love this channel.. and you speak! maybe we should become team members! :)
13:25 < t3ch> i am informatic, programmer, love computers from my 10 years now have 43.. working for one mexican guy on web.. but noone dont repspect nothing.. so i like few of us that is happening same things should get together
13:25 < renaud> the 10 commands are cd, ls, grep, find, cat, chmod, ps, |, ssh, man
13:26 < t3ch> * i think the same man
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14:01 < tangentnet> unzip and zip were left out/
14:01 < morpho> tar and untar ;)
14:02 < renaud> untar?
14:03 < morpho> i had a dream
14:04 < quinq> undream
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14:06 < tangentnet> The only real commandment is `sleep`
14:07 < morpho> observe the sabbath
14:07  * sibiria breaks the second commandment by praying to his puffy plushie
14:07 < phy1729> Please stick to OpenBSD
14:07 < morpho> puffy plushie could go viral
14:08  * IcePic observes with the new shiny "watch" command in obsd.
14:08 < morpho> something spiky, something soft
14:09 < sibiria> it's exactly that. a real hand-knitted openbsd puffy plushie
14:09 < morpho> pics?
14:10 < tangentnet> sleep 259200; at now + 3 days -f /etc/resurrection_script (or something)
14:10 < sibiria> morpho: https://www.doomyflocrochet.com/en/plushes-linux/plush-diodon-fish-openbsb/
14:11 < sibiria> OpenBSB, so clearly off-topic. but still!
14:11 < IcePic> http://c66.it.su.se:8080/blowfish/dsc02524.jpg
14:12 < sibiria> fine art
14:12 < IcePic> yes, my wife made it for me.
14:12 < IcePic> we have it on a pillow now, so I can be "encrypted at rest"
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14:13 < quinq> nice :)
14:13 < morpho> coool
14:14 < IcePic> the folder has a lot of things given to me in blowfish form(at) http://c66.it.su.se:8080/blowfish/
14:14 < IcePic> also a small c64 program that "boots" like obsd for 6510 and shows a BF image. =)
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15:17 < anexit> is there a way to increase /usr space from /home on a running openbsd system?
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15:17 < anexit> Filesystem     Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0a     1005M    148M    807M    16%    /
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0k      298G    143M    283G     1%    /home
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0d      3.9G   10.0K    3.7G     1%    /tmp
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0f      2.0G    2.0G  -89.1M   105%    /usr
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0g     1005M    473M    482M    50%    /usr/X11R6
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0h      9.8G   62.0M    9.3G     1%    /usr/local
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0j      2.0G    2.0K    1.9G     1%    /usr/obj
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0i      2.0G    2.0K    1.9G     1%    /usr/src
15:17 < anexit> /dev/wd0e      7.8G   26.5M    7.4G     1%    /var
15:17 < anexit> weird
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15:17 < anexit> trying to upgrade but cannot;
15:18 < sibiria> you are toast
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15:19 < sibiria> technically you don't need X11R6 on a separate file system. you could migrate those things onto /usr, drop the X11R6 label and then grow /usr
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15:21 < sibiria> rather, you need to move the X11R6 stuff to a temporary location before dropping that label and growing /usr
15:22 < pardis> or use sysclean to remove old files in /usr
15:23 < sibiria> at 2g the only thing temporarily removable are the kernel/lib object files
15:24 < sibiria> that's more or less on the spot of what openbsd/amd64 eats up these days, with object files in place
15:24 < sibiria> ~1.8 - 1.9g
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15:25 < sibiria> and at just 2g for /usr, you'll run into this problem again, and again, and again. merging X11R6 onto /usr is the cleanest fix
15:27 < oldlaptop> If that's all the /usr/local it ever needs, there's plenty to eat there and keep a separate /usr/X11R6 if you really wanted.
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15:29 < oldlaptop> (but on a system with that disk-usage pattern in /home and /usr/local, I also wonder why it's not cleaner to just reinstall and repartition.)
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15:44 < tangentnet> anexit, possible if you could boot into single user mode.
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16:08 < anexit> hmm yeah
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16:12 < anexit> sysclean |xargs rm work
16:12 < anexit> free up about 500mb
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16:12 < phy1729> Hope you don't have any files with newlines in their path
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16:20 < qbit> heh
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16:22 < renaud> anexit: /usr is somewhat system, your /home is huge without being used. What I would do is enable login as root, backup /home, kill /tmp /usr and /home partitions, recreate them with a more appropriate size, unpack /usr from an install tgz, restore your /home contents
16:25 < anexit> meh
16:25 < anexit> I'm going to just re-install
16:25 < anexit> this was a named box
16:25 < anexit> slave...
16:26 < anexit> I'll just snag /etc and go from there.
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16:29 < anexit> had to upgrade it from 6.8 eeek
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17:55 < librecat> it feels like a gift that i can have temporairly negative space on openbsd
17:55 < librecat> negative free space*
17:55 < librecat> it makes me trust openbsd way way more
17:55 < sibiria> in reality it's only negative to the non-superuser
17:55 < sibiria> it's just how it's reported because of the space reservation setting on the file system. in reality it is not negative space
17:56 < sibiria> man tunefs for more, also click like and subscribe
17:56 < quinq> overcommit on OpenBSD, WHEN?!
17:56 < librecat> ok liked subscribed and became a member thanks
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18:08 < eea> and the release tshirts/stickers
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18:14 < humm> quinq: now!  dd bs=1 count=1 if=/dev/zero of=bigfile seek=7696581394432
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19:06 < jtt> does anyone know of any usb bluetooth adapter for connecting wireless devices like keyboard or mouse on openbsd?
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19:09 < lts> AFAIK you need an adapter that handles the wireless part without the OS. Something like Logitech Unifying
19:11 < lts> Seems Logi Bolt allows use of Logitech bluetooth devices but you first need to pair them with another OS https://www.tumfatig.net/2021/logitech-mx-keys-and-mx-master-on-openbsd-using-logi-bolt/
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19:16 < jtt> is the logi bolt restricted to logitech devices?
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19:17 < lts> I believe so, and doesn't work with all Logitech devices either
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19:18 < lts> Use wired devices, or devices which come with pre-paired (encrypted) USB radio receivers which appear as wired devices to the OS, and you should be fine
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19:24 < jtt> hmm, I'm sure there must be something out there that works
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19:24 < jtt> I have a Creative BT-W3 for connecting my headphones and that works great
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19:25 < jtt> like you said the adapter handles the pairing itself
19:25 < jtt> I'm looking for something like that but that works with a keyboard or mouse
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19:43 < echelon> what was the 27yo vulnerability discovered by anthropic that claims to crash any openbsd system "just by connecting to it?"
19:44 < echelon> have they reached out to the project?
19:44 < mischief> it was patched in march
19:45 < fro> it was just a DoS wasn't it
19:45 < fro> not really that big of a deal
19:46 < echelon> mischief: what was the specific change if you don't mind?
19:47 < fro> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=177403860213017&w=2
19:47 < echelon> thanks!
19:47 < fro> https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/7.8/common/025_sack.patch.sig
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20:03 < calciume> You mean an AI was right about something for once?
20:05 < sibiria> the models are great. the diet is the problem
20:06 < sibiria> it's an interesting idea to train a model more or less entirely on known-good code
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20:29 < mlw> Is there any particular logic required to mount an OpenBSD system disk? "doas mount /dev/sd2c /mnt"?
20:30 < mlw> I simply want to copy the home directory of a previous system disk.
20:31 < sibiria> c isn't it, so one of the legitimate labels instead
20:31 < sibiria> a, d, e, etc.
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20:55 < mlw> Thanks!
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20:58 < a1fa> hello everyone - unbound has started to give me SERVFAIL on random zones
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21:02 < a1fa> No indication to failure, but when I start it with -dd i get this:
21:02 < a1fa> [1775854939] unbound[54512:0] warning: setsockopt(..., SO_SNDBUF, ...) was not granted: No buffer space available
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22:18 < minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
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22:19 < minall> Suspend doesn't work for my laptop, as me closing the lid or calling `zzz` will result in the system being hanged, so I have to force shutdown.
22:20 < minall> In order to disabled the part of closing the lid, I added -a to the apmd_flags. apmd_flags=-H -a
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22:21 < thrig> machdep.lidaction=0
22:21 < minall> It worked at first and, I could close the lid. After some reboots, I now can't... I wonder if I am forgetting something... I have one laptop with this same parameter in apmd flag, which is working with the closed lid
22:23 < minall> thrig: Thank you!, this seems to be what I need
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23:08 < renaud> is anyone using a YubiKey C Bio - FIDO Edition on OpenBSD?
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23:23 < elarks> I've once had a crash a few seconds after waking the machine from hibernation
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